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Coffee With Communists: Who they are, why they kill
Mainestategop ^

Posted on 09/01/2016 5:59:46 AM PDT by mainestategop

NOTICE TO FR READERS, DUE TO UNEXPLAINED TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY I COULD NOT GET IT BOLD AND RED ON FR. THAT AND HTML CODES TOO LONG. SORRY

Awhile back I read an old book from the last decade called Tea With Terrorists. Why they kill, and how to stop them. You check it out By clicking here but to get to the heart of the matter its written by Craig Winn who went to interview Muslim terrorists in the west bank in Israel and how the Muslim religion commands murder and intolerance and how 9/11 and Islam are interconnected.

It was a good read. I didn't read all of it just most of the good parts and the parts about Islam. I spoke to my wife about it at the supper table as well and we got to wondering why don't we do something like this on my blog? I of course had no desire to travel to the mid-east to interview terrorists and decided on something more simple, more local. I decided, "What about communist militants? Like the ones who attacked the trump rallies?"

I went online looking for the most controversial leftists I could find. The most America hating anti-capitalist, anti-christian, anti-life anti everything I could find. I narrowed it down to a few places and decided first on the revolutionary communist party with Bill Ayers and Bob Avakian. All of them turned me down. A spokesman replied to my inquiry "They had no desire they said to be mixed up with a "right winger" they said.

But then I found another good one while researching articles and came up with some articles about the Tinley Park beatings and the Trump riots in Chicago and an organization involved in both those episodes, Anti-Racist Action Antifa South Side.

The Anti-Racist Action or Antifa (short for anti-fascism) was founded in Minneapolis Minnesota and Toronto Canada in 1988. The purpose of antifa was to counteract neo-nazis and white supremacists. Part of this counteraction included riots and acts of violence. Antifa affilates are mostly found in the eastern mid-west in the rust-belt region and in Canada.

ARA ANTIFA riots have been held in Toledo Ohio, Washington DC and in parts of Canada and Europe.

More well known was the Tinley park incident where on May 19, 2012, up to 20 people wearing masks and black clothes entered the Ashford House Restaurant in Tinley Park (a suburb of Chicago) and used bats and hammers to beat patrons who were attending the fifth annual White Nationalist Economic Summit and Illinois White Nationalist Meet-and-Greet. Five people were arrested.

More recent, ARA was involved in the anti-trump riots in many major cities including the one at Chicago University of Illinois.

Anti-Racist Action has four points of unity to which all chapters must agree.

We go where they go. Whenever fascists are organizing or active in public, we're there. We don't believe in ignoring them or staying away from them. Never let the Nazis have the street! We don't rely on the cops or courts to do our work for us. This doesn't mean we never go to court, but the cops uphold white supremacy and the status quo. They attack us and everyone who resists oppression. We must rely on ourselves to protect ourselves and stop the fascists. Non-sectarian defense of other anti-fascists. In ARA, we have a lot of different groups and individuals. We don't agree about everything and we have a right to differ openly. But in this movement an attack on one is an attack on us all. We stand behind each other. We support abortion rights and reproductive freedom. ARA intends to do the hard work necessary to build a broad, strong movement against racism, sexism, anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, homophobia, transphobia, discrimination against the disabled, the oldest, the youngest, and the most oppressed people. We want a classless, free society. We intend to win!

As often as it turns out, the police have good reason to protect white supremacists as they tend to march non-violently while ARA activists were the ones who were violent, indiscriminent in attacks against innocent bystanders as well as nazis. While many right wingers have cancelled their rallies because of ARA, it has in truth promoted the far right and made them martyrs while making those on the far left look worse.

The Tinley Park incident in particular promoted fears among working class whites that their race was under attack and promoted sympathy for white supremacists. Many innocent people who had nothing to do with the gathering were attacked at the restaurant as well. What's more, Illinois European Heritage Association got positive attention and increased its membership as did it's affiliate Stormfront.

The particular affiliate of ARA I contacted was the one in Chicago's notorious south side. Described by law enforcement and white nationalists as a Marxist street gang, ARA south side Chicago was involved with other ARA affiliates in the Tinley park riots and the Trump Riots at UIC Chicago. ARA South siders are known for harassing racists and posting their information on the internet.

The south side ARA/Antifa does not ascribe to the label of street gang. Although it is rumored that many of their members are gangbangers and gang members. Many of their members are also white. Ironic since South side Chicago or Chiraq as it is known is almost entirely black with a few Hispanics, Arabs and others living within it's dangerous borders.

Many of South side's ARA/Antifa members were white. Surprisingly, despite the antagonism directed towards them by blacks in the area for their whiteness and the dangers, they don't mind at all working and living in the area. Nonetheless many whites in ARA live outside or on the fringes of Chicago's south side. Though they claim to sympathize with the residents there and believe that their problems which range from poverty to high crime and shootings are rooted exclusively in racism.

Race issues aside, ARA/Antifa and the citizens of Chicago liberal and conservative alike had a common enemy, the government. Chicago and the State of Illinois are perhaps among if not the most corrupt places in the United States. Illinois despite its counties being overwhelmingly Republican and voting republican in previous elections had a state legislature in its capitol of Springfield that is overwhelmingly Democrat. For over a century, the Democrat machine in the State Capitol of Springfield and in major cities such as Chicago and Peoria were overwhelmingly powerful and evil.

Even liberals were wary of the corrupt government which promoted torture, brutality, theft, abuse and injustices of almost every kind. But they continued to vote Democrat to receive their welfare checks and their free stuff. They made the republicans and their opponents scapegoats for their problems. Afterall, the government is never wrong.

Meeting with the two young reds...

I began my arrangements by changing my name and using fake credentials. I was tempted to reveal myself as the author of Mainestategop, but I feared retaliation and a trap. It was this way with Craig Winn in his own meeting with muslim terrorists in the west bank. They had every right to worry, Daniel Pearl, an American Jewish Journalist in Pakistan had gone hunting for snakes and found them...

This was of course documented in Tea with terrorists. Fortunately I had home court advantage and I was not going into South side Chicago to conduct the meeting. I arranged for our meeting to be done at a restaurant in Downtown Chicago, known as the loop to locals. Our meeting would be held I imagined at a coffee shop or perhaps a mall. I didn't want to be secluded but I wanted to do the interview with some area that wasn't too noisy as to be distracted....

My two contacts made it difficult to find a meeting place. they wanted to meet at a park. I prefered a shopping center or restaurant. I offered to pay... it wasn't windy, weather wouldn't be a problem. But the issue was that my contacts had been kicked out of just about every establishment in the city of Chicago for protesting in public or causing a ruckus. They had no trespassing orders in effect that ranged from 3 months to several years, some till the end of time. They weren't interested in going to cook county jail for violating them at the time.

We did manage to agree to a place where they could go. The shops at North Bridge, an upscale mall on Michigan avenue. We would meet at the food court on the 4th floor. The conditions for my meeting was to pay the two reds three-hundred dollars each in unmarked bills, that I paid for their food and beverages and they could call off the meeting at anytime they felt it went nowhere or met their interests.

Most important, they wished to be anonymous. As I was, using the alias of a journalist in order to gain an understanding. I told them I was an author of a left of center politic and that I had published on Huffington Post and Daily Kos

As a businessman from New Hampshire I wasn't phased by the cost but I did mull over it. I can't just pay anyone all that money just because I wanted to give the public a glimpse of the mindset of a far left marxist in Chicago's south side but was it worth it? And then there was the fact that I'd be advancing their own interests in a way by allowing their messages to get out.

As it is it might work both ways for us. Fringe groups like terrorists, anarchists, neo-nazis ETC lavish attention. If I was to interview the two communists and get a glimpse inside the mind of these people who, if they had their way would turn my country into a soviet hell, I had to let them have the chance to express to the public why they would do that...

I did not worry. I wanted them to express their views even if they try to sugar coat it with utopian fantasy and projection as is common with red Marxists who try to make their system out as morally superior. I had a moral advantage and that only the most uneducated and credulous of liberals would believe everything they said

Of course they already did believe much as evidenced by the last 8 years of Obama.

Setting and introduction

My interview started in the early hours of one day in late July. My family and I were vacationing a lot this summer and travelled around America. This time I traveled on my own for business reasons. The day after I arrived at Midway O'hare airport I went to Northridge to see my two I would interview. The mall was just opening and most of the shops were closed. All there was opened was a coffee shop. My guests were waiting at the food court on the 4th floor.

Again, I am not permitted to use their real names which were not revealed so I will use there nicknames. The two young men were nick-named Koba and Jackrabbit. Both of them had been communists since their youth, they are or have been homeless in Chicago and other major cities in America and Canada both of them claim to have been participants of the Tinley Park riots at the Ashford House.

Koba was the nickname of Joseph Stalin during the Russian Revolution. This Koba I speak of is a fan of Stalin. He calls himself a Marxist Stalinist and has supported all of his policies including the purges. Koba didn't want to tell me exactly where and when he grew up and only told me he grew up in the rural Midwest. He said his age was about early thirties late twenties and that he was born in the mid eighties like me.

Koba's family was lower to middle income. They didn't have everything but they weren't poor. He told me his father however was a heavy drinker who beat and raped his mother during some of his drinking binges. His mother was a devout Christian who refused to leave him. She clung to him for emotional and financial support and because she believed divorce was a sin.

Koba's father was a also a thief and trained him as a boy to steal liquor and beer from the super markets and convenience stores. Since he was a little kid at this time, they never suspected him of shoplifting. Koba's father would sometimes beat him if he couldn't get the liquor or if he dropped it. One time Koba had stolen an expensive bottle of rum and accidently fell and dropped it breaking it as he was walking out of the store. Koba's father in a fit of rage beat him so bad he broke his leg. He was taken to the hospital and lied to the doctor that it was a hit and run driver.

As Koba grew older he too became a drinker like his old man and not only stole alcohol but also food and electronics. His father encouraged this behavior. At 16, Koba ran away from home and lived on the streets of Oklahoma city, Omaha and Chicago. From sixteen to his current age, Koba has been homeless. He spends most of his time in Chicago or Indianapolis, except during winter when like many homeless he goes to Los Angeles and Las vegas.

Koba also has an extensive criminal history. He has been in jail and prison numerous times for crimes ranging from Theft to assault. He has also frequently been in trouble for trespassing and vandalism as well as alcohol related offenses. Koba has never held a job and states that he has no desire to do so.

Jack Rabbit claims he is 28 and is from a wealthy affluent family in Edina Minnesota. Jack rabbit is not a nick name he uses much but is called that because of his womenizing. Jackrabbit discovered communism when he was in high school but did not become totally immersed and involved in it until he was in University. After this he dropped out of university claiming that it didn't work out and lived much of his life either homeless or living on house that belonged to party members.

JackRabbit spends his time in Chicago, Toronto Canada, Seattle and when homeless during winter resides in Los Angeles, Phoenix and parts of Texas and New Mexico where he promotes communism. He has also claimed to have participated in riots in Texas and claims he almost murdered Alex Jones. (Hmm... I wouldn't call that an accomplishment either way you slice it.)

Jackrabbit is also a member of the Austin red brigade and ARA/Antifa chapters in Illinois, Indiana, Michigan and elsewhere. He claims that he has been in jail twice in Texas and California. Concerning Alex Jones, Jackrabbit claims to support the new world order and says that one of his life goals was to murder Alex Jones. His other was to march with the people's liberation army into the capitol and burn the constitution, using it to light a cuban cigar. More on that crazy story and other later.

Koba's life goals BTW are simple. he wants to live to see the downfall of America and do all he can to see that happen.

What do they look like you ask? Well... Koba was a little scruffy. He had a five o'clock shadow, bushy hair that could use a trim and a leather jacket that was work and torn along with cargo pants with camo. He wore army boots and he almost reminded me of OG Crackpipe from the comic strip my associate did for me years ago. Jack Rabbit wore a T-Shirt a baseball cap with the cubs logo and had blond hair. His face was youthful and reminded me of those way ward youths in public school.

The interview IN 4 parts

The interview I recorded started off on the right foot. There was introductions, payment and I bought them both breakfast from the coffee shop. I also told them I'd pay them another $800 each if I could finish the interview. It was a once in a lifetime opportunity. The first part of the interview was their biographies and what brought them into communism and ARA/Antifa which is where we will start.

From this moment the interview will be in bold Bolshevik red my comments normal font.... BTW Google Blogger gave me a hard time because of memory and because of how long this is so bear with me if its not all red or bold. I apologize for grammar and spelling since this was from a audio tape and I've never typed something like this before. This is new to me. HERE WE GO!

BB:Why do you like Stalin a lot? What is it that draws you into liking this fellow?

KOBA: What is there not to love about this man? He wrote most of the theories of communism that are now prevalent today, he picked up the mantle where Marx, Engels and Lenin started, he turned Russia, once an open wasteland stuck in the dark ages an stupidity and ignorance into the twentieth century making it one of the most powerful and advanced nations in the world, he defeated Hitler at a time when they nearly had the better of them, he protected Russia from the kulaks and traitors that were undermining the nation and trying to bring back the Tsar and the capitalists, I could go on about this man. This man has done more for Russia and for all of us than anyone in history.

BB:What about the purges? People being coerced into confessing crimes they didn't do and being killed?

KOBA: It was necessary. Its true that innocent people suffered but that wasn't his doing. That was because of unscrupulous people in the NKVD like Nikolai Yezhov. Stalin was able to commute the sentences of some of his victims, but he couldn't that do all of them it was too late and if he did people's faith in him and the state would waver.

Nikolai Yezhov was known as the little butcher, Stalin's chief of the NKVD, the secret police and precursor to the KGB. It was Yezhov that carried out many of Stalin's executions and was a state hero. Later he will be made Stalin's scapegoat to his evil doings.

BB: So just to prevent people from questioning Stalin and the government, he should let people he knew were innocent should be left to die or be enlsaved in the gulag? So no one thinks the government isn't infallible?

Koba: No one said the state was infallible but you need to understand this was a crucial and delicate time in Russian history. Russia was emerging from centuries of bloody oppression under the Romanovs, the capitalists and fascists, mainly the United States and Germany were a threat and Hitler was arming Germany for war to take over the world. Stalin inherited a Russia that was imploding that was already on the verge of collapse. In 1929 just before the Great depression began, Stalin gave a speech where he said that Russia has just 10 years to catch up with the world otherwise Russia was doomed. At this time, the world was in misery, capitalism had failed and while the rest of the world relied on a failing system of business and letting the wealthy run everything, Stalin launched the 5 year plan and while people were starving and riding rails looking for work, while people were dying Russia enjoyed zero unemployment. Gradually things improved and poverty went into decline. It wasn't easy though...

BB: What about the famines that hit the country? The shortages, people being worked to death?

Koba: Yeah I knew you'd bring that up. That's not because of Stalin. That's because of traitors that remained in the government and because of the Kulaks who hid the grain who even destroyed it. I mean I was reading an article by a fascist who attacked the USSR and Stalin and he even admitted it! The Kulaks made it worse by burning the grain and hiding it! They didn't want to join the collective, they wanted to hoard grain sell it to merchants and speculators and live high and dry while people were starving. That is wrong. I mean even Jesus said these people were sinners but you don't hear that about the one percent these days.

BB:Whata bout Stalin seizing grain and selling it and other resources to the west and western corporations like say the Koch brother's father or to people like the Rockafellers the Bush family ETC?

Koba:That's different. (When isn't it?)Unfortunately Stalin was left with no alternative but to sell resources and food to the capitalists in order to pay for the five year plan and modernize the country. That's the funny thing about these capitalists. They always accuse us of practicing capitalist traits like buying and selling in order to promote ant-capitalism. Well hey! I mean we live in a capitalist country! If I want to eat I either have to buy it from a company or go to a religious charity like Pacific Garden Mission and listen to some guy in a suit lecture me about how some imaginary skydaddy is gonna send me to hell because I didn't put a dollar in a plate or because I don't believe in him or whatever.

JR: I'd rather eat out of the dumpster at McDonalds.

Koba: Well yeah! There's that too. But Stalin lived in a world dominated by capitalists and even if well, you need to be bartering going on to get one resource for another. The big difference is Stalin had the future of Russia and the Russian people in mind. He thought of the long term goals. We need engine parts to arm the red Air force, they need sugar beets. we need guns for the army, they want iron from Magnegorsk, we need tractors, machines, blueprints they want vodka, tungsten, oil, By the way Russia was a big oil producer you know. We had to do this but Stalin knew in the long term if we were gonna beat them we'd have to get these things. We had to play by their rules for the time being.

JR: I just want, if I may comrade bring this up. Our government in the US is constantly double dealing taking bribes from companies in the form of campaign finance, we have wall street owned politicians sending our money and resources to other countries and outsourcing jobs but no one complains. They say that its just buying and selling its legal its always right. But when Stalin sells grain to pay for machines for steel mills, tractors, planes, ETC now the GOP attacks us. Its just like these GOP republicans who hate the government but get food stamps and social security because they're unemployed.

Koba:HA! HA! Yeah I know! And you know what? This is why we needed the purges. This happened all the time under Stalin. People in positions of trusting stealing from the people and wheeling and dealing with spies and capitalists. I remember it got bad under Brezhnev in the seventies and the reason communism failed is because it was allowed to deteriorate because the politicaians sold the people out! I remember reading about how an army colonel stole lumber he used to build a dacha for himself. He was shot as an example but it didn't work. To this day, Russia is now in the hands of gangsters and capitalists

JR: What's the difference? They're all like Al Capone and the mafia.

Koba: At least Al Capone gave back to the community. Captialists are the ultimate criminals. They are thieves, crooks, they steal the labor of their workers and call it profit which they and the investors pocket. Under communism, the money goes into my pocket for working or it goes back into the community to build things and in turn build more jobs!

BB:What about profit being used to invest into business and to invest in projects? What about taxes on profit?

Koba:No Profit is theft! The investments only favor the capitalists rather than the workers and taxes just go to politicians who help these criminals to abet their own crimes.

JR: That's what woke me up comrade. My father and his associates are making a killing off thousands of workers here and abroad and all they get is the s**t end of it all. Yet this is called free marketing this is called fairness. Yet we're the bad guys.

BB: What about the belief: The state is always right.

Koba: Yeah that's the other thing fascists love to hit us with. we never say that. But the people are always right and know what's good for them. Who are the people, they are the ones who make up the party.

BB: The party is always right

Koba:Yeah. But would you rather put your faith in a government run by corporations and influenced by wall street bankers and consumer culture or a government run by the people and its best interests?

BB:Like in East Germany where the anthem of the socialist party there is the party is always right?

Koba The party is right. We didn't say the government or whatever the party is when it acts in the interests of the people and when the government acts in the interets of party doctrine and party principals yes it is.

BB: You seem to be double talking. I can't seen to understand. The party is the people, the people is the government government yet the party is right the government isn't. When does this apply?

JR: Check your history. Whenever the nations of the world embrace true communism and they follow party doctrines of Marx, Stalin, Mao and so on and when they embrace the needs of the people instead of themselves you have true communism and when you have true communism you have modernization you have prosperity you don't have shortages or famines like when true communism didn't exist.

BB: And what about the Ribbentrop Molotov pact?

Koba: What about it?

BB: The state is always right yet Stalin not only executed his top spy for saying that Hitler was bluffing and would invade Russia in two years.

Koba: Okay. That's a myth. Stalin knew already that Hitler was bluffing. he said so in Mein Kempf that Germany should invade the east and he stated in speeches over and over again since before he came to power that his war was with the communists. He hated us more than even the Jews. We were the first ones into the ovens. But Stalin had to sign that treaty because he needed to buy time to fight back against Hitler. He had to purge the army and they didn't have enough armaments to fight. Stalin knew it was coming. As for his agent he killed him because he was a double agent, that is he was spying on his behalf but for Germany's as well. he had to go.

On and on we argued about the infallibility of the state and Koba and Jack Rabbit avoided the crux of the matter and tried to make it sound like the party was right and not always right. Also not how he talks of true communism. This is a ad hominem argument communists make to hide their incompetence. If it fails it wasn't true communism. Koba at least doesn't try to hide the purges of his beloved Joe Stalin. But they avoided this issue. The government is always right but only because the party is always right so if the government isn't working on the party's behalf then the government is not always right but it is.

Almost like a page taken from the Hitchikers guide to the Galaxy. If such a book were to exist then Koba must've been responsible for the heading on communism the way he explained it.

They never could answer my question. Rather than risk having my contacts walk out on me I changed to another subject not before I bought them food from the food court and more coffee.

BB: Have any of you been in touch with family?

Koba: After I ran away I burned that bridge. I never spoke to my family until I read on the internet that my father died. I read my local paper and subscribe by email. I saw him in the obit. I called my mom and spoke to her. She was devastated. Told me he died in a drunk driving accident. His fault. So in the end as I thought his drinking was his downfall. I imagined he'd die in a brawl or cirrosis of the liver but I should've known that would do it.

BB: When was this?

Koba: about 2011.

BB:Do they know your a communist.

Koba: Yeah. They told me the funeral was gonna be next week, I told my mom, my aunt and uncle and they were pissed. My mom cried on the phone when I told her that I was a communist and an anti-racist. My family didn't like blacks very much they thought they should be left to themselves. Mom cried and told me not to come back and my aunt was, "oh... I'm sorry to hear that. I hope the N***ers don't turn on you and knife you in the back." My uncle told me that I was not welcome back and the family was disappointed in me for helping the blacks and for being a communist. He then hung up on me and that was it.

BB: They were racist

Koba: Yeah. Not hardcore but they believed that it was wrong to have anything to do with them. My father and mother just believed in limited interaction while my uncles some of them believed that it was a sin for whites and blacks to mingle in any way.

This I found to be unfortunate. By disowning their son, all hope of Koba being brought back into reality and reformed was lost. Family support is the best way to fight communism. By reaching out and having a loving family, the communist is forced to question his beliefs and that of his party bosses. Having a choice between party loyalty and family is also good for undermining the structure. Many communists faced being executed in a purge for siding with family. By being torn between the party and family there is a good chance for saving them

JR: My parents, they don't know what I do. When I dropped out I broke off contact. Later my mom and sister got a hold of me and asked where I've been and what I've been doing they said they were worried. I told them I dropped out of university because I couldn't do it which is true but I told them I was working in Peoria and Chicago in Sales and that I'd settled down. I never told them what I really did. I didn't speak to them after. I'm afraid of what they'll say. I am worried about like what happened to Koba so I just burn the bridge and say nothing.

BB:What possessed someone like you, a son of a millinaire? right?

JR: No, my dad made like about a little more than half a million a year. We weren't millionaires. We were very rich.

BB:And why leave that?

JR: Because it seemed like the right thing to do. It is the right thing to do. I mean, I studied business to be like my father and the more and more I looked into it the more and you find that your lifestyle is at the expense of so many millions of poor starving people including children. The computer you use, the laptop, bluetooth, IPhone, cellphone, TV, the shoes you wear, the car you drive, all this came at the expense of some wage slave in South America and Africa who mined or manufactured your whatever. They make lesss than a dollar a day and its the only work avaliable. They can't change the system neither because our businessman control their government with bribery. In some places they can be killed for just speaking out. Yet were the bad guys.

Koba: Yeah before this interview is over, over 5,000 children many of them babies will be dead from malnutrition, preventable disease, war, pollution, overpopulation whatever. Just now, right now, hundreds of them have already died yet you call us the bad guys.

This is absurd. The truth is many of these governments hold to some kind of socialistic principle that is killing these children. And BTW these same countries have free healthcare. Explain that!

BB:What about universal healthcare coverage in these countires?

Koba:A joke. The money that should be going to them is being taken by the corrupt fascists in the government. Our country is just like that.

BB: What are your thoughts on Obamacare.

Koba:Its third world care if you want my view. Not enough money goes into it. Its not even really free universal healthcare. Its a mandate!

JR: Yeah! The republicans, love it when they claim its socialist yet they force you to pay for a stupid health plan by a private company run by someone like my dad and then they go on about rationing and death panels. HEY! News flash! If they want you to be forced to pay for it, its not universal healthcare. Its forced capitalism! Newt Gingrich even supported it and so did Mitt Romney.

KOBA:Mitt Romney, yeah, Mitt Romney is a conservative and he supported that crap. He was the one who got that started.

BB:Mitt Romney conservative?

Koba: Yeah!

OH SURE! Newt and Mitt! So was Robert Byrd 20 years ago.

BB: What about orin Hatch?

Betcha you didn't see that one coming!

Koba: I don't know who he is.

BB: Republican senator from Utah.

Koba: Okay so he's a fascist

BB:What about Senator Susan Collins?

Koba: I think I heard a little about her um... (Looks to Jackrabbit)

JR: Shes right wing. Trust me. People in Maine are rednecks

OH BOY! Ignorance is bliss! If these brats lived in Maine for about a couple of years they'd be rednecks for sure! They'd be so conservative even Rush Limbaugh would be out of a job.

Koba:Is that right?

JR: Yeah, I read about it. the Klan was big there.

SIGH

BB: So how would your family react you think Jackrabbit if they found out.

JR: Probably not good. They'd think I was crazy

BB: do you see yourself fighting against them in the future?

JR: Yeah. When you become a communist, you have to leave your life behind. There's no room for shirking. There's no tolerance for traitors, sympathizers or sympathy for capitalists. This is what gets us into trouble with western capitalists because during civil wars there were purges and stuff and people dying but you look at these people and the critical time they lived in there was no room for people who showed the slightest sign of disloyalty. My family members are part of the upper class, they run the economy, they are what's wrong. If they come to my side, okay all great but when the revolution starts in this country you're either with us or against us. Those who are not part of the revolution are part of the problem and need to be taken out.

Koba: Its coming, it wont be long. Once the welfare checks stop coming in, once the economy collapses it'll be time to rise up. You'll have the option of working with the enemy or being on our side. It could happen very soon.

JR: I got no choice. I just don't think about it. I've no regrets. Bunch of rich fat cats living off the backs of the prolitariot. If I have to kill them I'll do it.

BB: Tell me Jackrabbit about your dreams and the revolution that's coming.

JR: It'll be awesome. The revolution is probably going to being one society and it all starts first when the economy collapses. First it'll be the economy that goes then the government wont be able to pay its workers, the power, water food and everything will end, no more welfare, no more jobs, no police, no fire no more anything. Well there will be police but they'll be looking after themselves and whoever pays them like the bosses And you know how it is, the people are gonna be hungry, sick, scared, they're gonna get pissed and rise up. Its gonna be like Louisiana hurricane Katrina, its gonna be like looting stealing killing, then martial law is gonna be declared and then its time to choose sides.

BB: what sides?

JR: Those who either they'll join the revolution come under our banner and fight or those who are with the capitalists, they'll fight on their side against us. I can tell you that were the ones who will win.

BB: But how will you do that with so many Americans owning firearms and our massive military.

JR: by this time most of the people will be disarmed except those who work for the establishment. As for the military, most of them are made up of disolutioned workers. Ever notice how army recruiters never go to rich neighborhoods? They always recruit from poor whites and even poorer minorities. Behind every gun is a worker at heart. We expect most of the military to mutiny eventually and join us. The rest will run with their tail between their legs. They have nothing to fight for. Once they see that America is the racist and unjust dictatorship it really is see, they wont have the heart to fight. They'll be looking for a way out. Most will come to our banner. The few well be fighting are those with no heart or stomach who we can finish and others a few sycophants for the bosses. They'll eventually be weeded out.

BB: How long do expect to fight? What guarantee do you have that you'll win?

JR: I don't know. In Vietnam they fought for almost a century! First it was the French, then the American puppet government, then the Americans themselves. Look they fought for a century and the only time it wasn't the french or the Americans it was the Japanese. World War 2 interrupted the fighting for awhile, everyone fought the Japanese and then they were back to fighting each other.

BB:Are you willing to go through all that? Sacrifice to the last man? I remember hearing that they were willing to have 10 men die to kill One GI. Would you do the same?

JR:Definitely. Real communists are determined to win. Our Latino Comrades for existence have put up with it for decades and when the government collapses and the regime is exposed for what it is, well do all we can. Our commrades in the Chicano movement have native ancestors fighting this crap for centuries. We've fought the yankees for over a century. They haven't let up. Communism and the struggle of the workers have made us stronger. There is no doubt we can do better and we will win in the end.

BB: Sure about that?

KOBA: Look, this land has been colonized for centuries. The native people and Chicano peoples, they've held out longer than we have. We may lose most of the battles but in the end we are gonna win the war. We'll keep on coming. If we should fall, we'll need to make sure that our end is glorious and an example to future generations if need be.

BB: What about Americans with guns? Are you sure that the revolution will happen after citizens are disarmed?

KOBA: Glad you asked. Anyways That's irrelevant. In the event of a collapse most of them will willingly give up their guns to be safe and be left alone by government. Even if that weren't the case, we'd still be able to defeat them even with all the rhetoric about so called free people like the wolverines or militias, these guys are either amateurs who can't shoot to survive or old veterans who no longer have the vigor to stand up. I'm not worried. We can overrun them, they wont last.

JR: YEAH and you know what? I've read about this, the experts all agree that the scenario in wolverines in Red Dawn is not possible. I mean high school kids with rifles running through the woods of Colorado winning all these battles, its not realistic. They would've been wiped out.

KOBA: Yeah, if the Special forces didn't get them all, the helicopters would've. Those Mi-24 Hinds, they'd mulch them down like they did in Afghanistan. Charlton Heston and his friends can whine all they want but in the end we'll take his gun from his cold dead hands and bury the NRA. And at the end they'll remember how stupid these people are.

JR: The scenarios played out by the army show that militias with citizens would not be able to take the place of a professional army. At best they'd be for recon duty instead of combat. If Red Dawn were to happen all the fighting would be left to the pros.

Koba if WW3 did happen it would all be in Europe and the north Atlantic. North America would join us voluntarily once the workers woke up and throw off the capitalist yoke. I'm surprised it didn't happen under Reagan.

BB: But what if they resist? The American people aren't very keen on communism. Even those who are somewhat liberal wouldn't like to be on your side.

KOBA: When the revolution begins I guarantee you most of them will have their eyes opened. The ones who still wont are sycophants who are on the payrolls of the bosses. They must die.

BB: When you complete your revolution what happens then? How will you rebuild America?

Koba: Rebuilding will be done I believe the same way Stalin rebuilt Eastern Europe after being liberated from the Nazis. First, all resistors will be executed or deported. Second, all remaining property is to be redistributed to the needs of the community, third, well create new jobs rebuild infrastructure, provide housing ETC. it'll take time, hard work, we wont have much to eat but we'll make America better than it was in the old world.

BB: What do you mean old world?

Koba: I mean that we are gonna plan a new world out of the ashes of the old. We are gonna take over and make the place brand new again. Once America has collapsed the workers of the world will then be free to overthrow the capitalist dominated governments and replace them with governments run by worker collectives. During the revolution, the American imperialists will no longer be able to run their puppet regimes in Africa and South America. They must bring their resources and military to North America protect their interests. Our comrades will overthrow the colonial outposts and help us in the final overthrow of the capitalist controlled regime in the United States.

JR: America can't hold out very long. No matter what we will win. We will take over America and the world.

BB: New world order as it were.

Koba: Indeed!

JR: Yeah I can't wait.

BB: Jackrabbit you mentioned you wanted to kill Alex Jones is that right?

JR: Yes

BB: Why do you want to kill him? What about someone more popular like say Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Jeff Kuhner, Michael Savage or Laura Ingraham?

JR: Because to me, Alex Jones represents everything evil about America. See, I am unapologizingly a supporter of the New World order. I am the new world order. I despise Alex Jones because he is the antithesis of everything I believe in. Alex Jones believes in a world where essentially the people with the most money, the whitest skin, who own the most should be in power. He talks about freedom and liberty like all the stupid conservatives but I ask you what freedom? He wants to silence homosexuals, he wants to outlaw abortion so women have to turn to coat hangers, he works and runs his mouth on behalf of wall street, the banksters and Israel. He goes nuts on radio and in public because the public love it. He's in your face and confrontational. I absolutely hate this guys guts. He is mentally ill and he spreads it like to all the working masses who are misinformed or uninformed. He is the voice of prepers, gun owners, militia nuts, so called pro-lifers ETC. He doesn't deserve to live and I believe that there is some divine force out there that is loyal to our cause that has put me on the earth for some reason and I think it is to make an example of this fat stupid lunatic who raves and lies about us on our public airwaves, spreading racism, fascism, infecting young minds to be traitors to the people and to be white christian gun totting fascists.

BB Truly you believe this?

JR: Its possible. I just... I mean, inside of me want to destroy this big lugoon this five hundred pound gorilla. If I could I'd just paste the side walk with his brains and guts. I'd like to go to to Austin and if I had the chance I'd take a big gun to his temple and BLAM! No more racist luggoon talking trash on public airwaves.

BB: Your thoughts on this Koba?

Koba: (laughs) I think Jackrabbit is exaggerating the problem. I mean seriously? Alex Jones is mentally ill. I think he's even been institutionalized for his antics before. Alex Jones doesn't really pose a threat to our movement and I hate to say it but if you really think he's a problem comrade, you may want to get your head examined too. Nothing personal but to revolve your whole life on this fantasy of wanting to gun down a crazy right wing radio host doesn't have any benefit to the revolution. But hey! Go for it! Just make sure it doesn't backfire and he becomes a martyr.

JR: It wont. I just like to.

Koba: Well we don't need to. Talk radio hosts like Alex Jones, Sean Hannity and so on, I want them to run their mouths. I want them to preach. Every time their mouth opens up it helps us and people can see and hear for themselves these people are evil. Alex Jones does a lot of good for us when he acts up and goes fruit-loops on radio. In the end we'll get him. Don't worry.

BB: Did you ever try to kill him?

JR: Yes. On two occasions. I'd rather not talk about it because there's been some talk about it on radio and I don't want to make any leading statements but I just want to say that yes, I tried to get him. The first time I couldn't get close enough the second, the fuzz were everywhere I think though they wanted to go after Alex Jones and arrest him cause he was acting out but then again maybe they got a tip off and were protecting him but I really didn't want to take a chance. I think they might be protecting him now so I left. Its okay.

Koba: The police protect him now because he supports Trump and Trump supports the authority. Plus as crazy Alex Jones is they need him.

BB: I remember listening to Alex Jones and there was a video sent to him actually it was an audio recording... It said that it was the new world order and that it was angry that they saw Alex Jones as a threat and they were coming after him. Be honest Jack Rabbit, did you record that?

JR: No I didn't even know about this. I wish I did now.

Koba: Oh come on... That wasn't the new world order. Its either Alex playing games or its a hoax from one of his fans. Like entire world, come on! I mean... One lunatic in his basment and a stupid radio show shouting on the air is gonna affect the operations of a one world think tank that works behind the scenes. If that were the case, they wouldn't send him a stupid recording, they'd waste him. Either that or they'd frame him for a crime to discredit him and his followers. But one or the other

BB: JackRabbit you believe a divine spirit would like for you to kill Alex?

JR: Maybe. Could be the force of the universe or something.

BB: Well I'd like to ask what your thoughts are of Religion and God and if you have any spiritual or religious beliefs now or in the past. Jack Rabbit I'll start with you.

JR: I am more into eastern religion and mysticism. When I was studying about the revolution in Vietnam I learned that the Viet Cong weren't all atheists I mean non-religious, many of them were Buddhists or part of eastern mysticism. Its just that it sounds like atheism but its different. See I don't believe in the existence of a personal God like Christians Jews and Muslims, I believe in oneness in spiritual forces at work. There's no such thing as a big God or Big Deity. Buddhism and eastern thoughts are very compatible to communism which is why it is very easy to bring communism and teach it in Asia. The western Capitalists on the other hand didn't like that very much so they had a Roman Catholic made dictator of South Vietnam, Diem and he tried to force everyone to become Catholic Christians at gun point. It didn't work and it just made the government less popular since Catholics were a minority. A lot of the people who ran South Vietnam were Christians and were kleptocrats who robbed everyone.

This isn't necessarily true. Buddhists and other people of eastern thought incorporate theistic beliefs of a supreme being. Although Buddhism in its classic form denied any kind of god, subsequent sects have incorporated the worship of one or more deities.

Also, history is not on Jack rabbit's side. When Mao Tse Tung and the communists took over China, Buddhists and Buddhist clergy were the first to suffer. when China invaded Tibet, thousands of Buddhist monasteries were destroyed and thousands of Buddhists were murdered.

As for South Vietnam, many of the communists either embraced or despised Buddhism. Ngo Dinh Diem, president of the Republic of South Vietnam was a Catholic who gave preferential treatment to Catholics but allegations that he forced villages to convert or be baptized or other stories of pagodas and ancestral altars being destroyed are exaggerations by the communists.

It should be noted that Diem's vice president and eventual successor was a Buddhist. Diem's cabinet had 5 Confucians and 8 Buddhists and 5 Roman Catholics. Only one thing is correct, Diem and all those who succeeded him were Kleptocratic and corrupt. This includes those who were Buddhist. One of the main reasons for the failure of the Vietnam war was that the government of South Vietnam was never stabilized as a working Democratic state and the nation soon fell to Communism.

Koba: I'm an agnostic. I think there's two possibilities. One, there is a god and he doesn't give a s**t what happens to us and two, there is no god and we gotta work alone. See, in Communism by default were atheist and agnostic as in birth but we don't really care as long as religion is conformed to communism and that the churches and so on submit the people and the party there is no problem. You can have whatever beliefs you want as long as their private and as long as you don't undermine the goals of communism and the communist party. I used to be Christian and now and again we'd go to church but my dad told me one time in private that religion is for suckers and that its just a game but don't go around saying it. My dad taught me to not listen to religion. Just use it. he told me that everyone knows its fake but no one says it and that only people who are very stupid would believe what the bible and God says. Like my mom. But I think She just clung to him because she needed financial security which also shows me why family and capitalism is stupid. Also I tested God many times. Prayers never get answered, people are dying in the world and nothing good ever happens whenever religious people are in control like in the south, so yeah I know I got it right. Jack Rabbit, I don't understand any of what he believes in. Eastern stuff is too strange but I don't care so I ignore it.

BB: But let me ask you gentlemen, what will happen after you die? What do you both think?

Jackrabbit: I guess I'll come back as a well... I don't know. I know that whatever happens will depend on how much I can do while on earth. The struggle I belong to is a good cause and I know that by freeing the workers and forsaking all that unbelievable wealth I could've had by now I am gonna be well rewarded. I don't know if I'm gonna come back as someone important or something but I know I got it good.

Koba: I don't know. I don't really think about it.

BB: Suppose your wrong and the bible is real some would ask.

JR: That's impossible. The bible isn't real. i mean Koba used to be a Christian he knows.

Koba: If it is real then God is a bigger A** H*** than I thought. So lets get this straight here. Rush Limbaugh, Christian, during Christmas says that homeless people should either die or be locked up. This guy gets to go to heaven? Bill O'reilly is a Christian and a war monger. He supported the Iraq war, he said that all the opponents of the war crimes commited by Bush were anti-capitalists, anti-american, traitors, Marxists just anything negative. If anything I felt better about being a marxist and hate this place even more. Years later he calls homeless veterans who have PTSD bums drug addicts and mentally ill. Thanks GI Joe for getting your legs blown off for the one percent, now go get a job you mentally ill drug addicted bum! I mean really? Christianity is real? That's insane.

JR: Christianity, Judaism and Islam have done more evil than anything and anyone in the world and yet were the bad guys go figure!

Koba: yeah and I don't remember right now if I shared this with you or not, but while we've been talking about Jeebus and Moo ham head!

JR: Heh!

Koba: While, we've... listen! LISTEN! thousands of children in poor countries just died. How many prayers went unanswered just now? Face it! It doesn't work! God doesn't exist or he doesn't give a S**t! Deal with it. If he does then he's more evil than I thought.

JR: yeah its like a cartoon universe stewie and Brian family guy were in remember? Its stupid. Up is down down is up and God loves you so much he'll let you die of hunger and send you to hell.

KOBA: We are in hell. Moot point guys. Don't worry.

After several more minutes of jokes and blasphemy the interview continues...

BB So you're not a fan of Judaism and Islam neither?

Koba: No were against religion mainly when it conflicts

JR: Organized religion is all about control man. Its mind control its just rich people...

Koba: ...Rich people in suits telling you to give up the good life, live in a hovel and submit to an old bearded white dictator.

JR: If God says I'm a sinner tell me in person

BB: What about jews?

Koba: I got nothing Against them. Again, we don't care what you believe as long as you don't get in the way of the people and the party.

BB: But awhile ago you expressed deep disdain for Judaism

Koba: Yeah its the root of the stupid religions in the west that have perpetuated capitalism.

JR: Yeah and Israel, Israel is murdering palestinians in the name of Judaism. We don't need it.

BB: Islam and Muslims?

Koba: Same thing

JR: A Muslim is just a rabbi or a preacher with a diaper on his head

Koba: Heh! Yeah! Bunch of terrorist mass murderers and wife beaters.

BB: You don't like Muslims.

Koba: No!

JR: No! We don't hate Muslims we just hate islamic terrorism! No!

Koba: ...NO! We don't hate them anymore than we hate people who are Christian Jewish Buddhist Hindu Zorastrian or whatever. Our problem is the beliefs and the people who take them seriously like flying planes into buildings.

BB: So why are people who criticize Muslims and Islamic beliefs racist?

Koba: Why? Because they are!

JR: -They are racist. They attack Muslims because they're not white, they're not Christian its not- It has...

Koba: It doesn't have anything to do with terrorism. Look! Christians in this country have commited worse things than 9/11! Worse! They murdered and genocided 99 million native Americans! The ones that lived had their culture taken from them and were forced to live in nasty reservations with little or nothing to eat! Abortion clinics being bombed, the KKK they were Christians and they committed horrible terrorist acts worse than any Muslim could dream of. The only reason they did, I mean hate them is because they have brown skin, they aren't Christian and they aren't American. That's all. 9/11 is just an excuse to hate them.

JR: Yeah I want to also mention that I went to a website about Islam made by a Christian before 9/11 and all he did was attack Islam as devil worshipers ETC and do you know why? Not because of terrorism, not because of treatmen of women but because they were dilluting the number of Christians in Europe and America and they were going to dechristianize the nation. That's all. That's why Christians he says need to kill Muslim cause they're basically doing what missionaries in Africa and Asia are doing.

Koba: Who was he?

JR: I don't remember it was just some hick. I don't even think the website is up anymore.

Koba: 19 Muslims killed all those people. Just 19 out of a billion people. Meanwhile the Christians are supporting the capitalist war machine and all this greed that is killing more than that everyday! That alone shows Christianity isn't worth having. That these right wingers would stand up for CEOS and dictators like Pinochet, Franco or that one guy in Guatemala who was friends with Pat Robertson or Charles Taylor or Ronald Reagan proves that Christianity isn't worth it.

JR: Well I thought Jesus condemned capitalism. I mean a lot of the new testament sounds marxist but most Christians they're capitalists

Koba: Christianity is hypocrisy and is backwards. Trust me I was raised a Christian and it was hypocrisy left right. Jesus talks about feeding the poor being fair and so on but then you get to the part about God should help those only who help themselves. They do too.

BB: Was your church would you say conservative?

Koba: We were southern baptists. Yeah it was. Mostly if we did go the pastor talked about the bible but on few occasions said things like that Bush should blow up the whole mid-east.

BB:Jack Rabbit did you go to church?

JR: No, my family was not religious. The only time as a child I recall going to church was for funerals or weddings.

BB: You were mentioning that professional armies would fight during war instead of militias but what will you have to fight against the US military if revolution does happen I mean when it happens.

Koba: Oh it will. At first it'll be small lightning raids but soon we'll have pros on our side. We expect the army to mutiny and join us, we'll also be having veterans on our side who can train us to be soldiers. I myself read combat manuals at the library and Sun Tzu. It'll be an uphill struggle but in the end we will come out on top.

BB: You really think you can defeat the greatest nation in history in an armed rebellion with mostly inexperienced amateurs some with no training and with what little you have?

Koba: Yes. And let me explain it to you in more detail... Okay. You have the USA right? The United States controls the world. It is dominant it has the biggest military, biggest wealth, it controls nearly all the worlds markets in some capacity. The US owns the third world, the third world gives it its resources, labor through outsourcing of jobs to these countries, banking, loaning money and they control the third world either through loans and extortion or through military dictatorships.

JR: Puppet regimes

Koba: Yeah! Exactly! just like the Romans. In fact American capitalism is just modeled after the Roman tribute system. They kept exploiting and taking until the masses rose up and said enough is enough! The so called celts, the barbarian tribes they learned from the Romans, emulated them and then decided once they'd weaken themselves to throw them off their backs. When the Romans first took over, see, it was a couple thousand soldiers with swords and armor vs naked barbarians who'd march ten thousand of their men in a massive charge with their wives and children on a nearby hill watching. They'd get killed, the Romans had technical advantage and they used tactics. The ending was the same, they'd get wiped out and the women and children became their slaves. The chieftain's son or brother took over and became the puppet for the emperor Augustus. They had to pay tribute or get killed. They also had to have their son as their hostage. Later on... now get this, later on, the barbarian subjects became assimilated by the Romans, learned Roman ways, Roman custom and Roman battle tactics. Then its no longer a bunch of barbarians with nothing on and clubs they faced armored, sword wielding warriors, many with formal military training. Its no longer the same. By this time Rome was old and rotten with corruption and they were spending all their money on protecting their backsides and on themselves that they didn't have enough money to have a fully funded army, many of who's recruits came from the barbarians. They went downhill fast and they collapsed.

JR: Whatabout eastern Rome? Byzantine

Koba: Well they lasted longer but they still had to pay tribute to barbarians like the Bulgarians and the Lombards and then the Saracens came and almost took them over were it not for things like the crusades. And America is in the same predicament. Over 200 years, the western imperialists took over and exploited lands by so called savages armed with spears and bows and arrows with rifles. They took over, forced their ways on them then they taught them to be westerners. Then they came and threw them out and they couldn't hold on to their countries anymore so they had to bribe dictators who the people would at least tolerate in some way.

BB: What are you trying to say.

Koba: What I'm saying, is history is gonna repeat itself but the revolution is gonna start in America. The US will have to focus its resources on controlling the homeland instead of the third world, our comrades in the third world throw off their rulers, join us and together we defeat the Americans. Its already happening! We got people from Cuba, Angola, Latin America on our side. All we have to do is wait and while we wait we stand up to the capitalists, agitate, recruit and do what we can to undermine the system as it slowly gives way.

JR: America has over 20 trillion dollars in debt, its jobs are all gone, everyones being laid off the only people working are so called undocumented immigrants fast food workers and a few other people. It wont be long before we start and by this time they'll have had it.

BB: And then its all sunshine and roses, come the revolution the world will have peace and harmony and nothing but peaches and cream. Yes?

Koba: In abstract I guess. It wont happen right away but after a generation when we rebuild and wipe out the last remaining reactionary pockets of resistance yes. We will have achieved a workers utopia.

BB: Well history it looks like doesn't like you guys I mean, I see that Russia, China, Venezuela, Angola ETC. either they've collapsed or are on the verge of holy s**t.

Jr: Because it isn't true communism

It never is isn't it commrade?

BB: no?

Koba: No. Those countries are not communist. I mean Angola? Really? They are bought off by big oil! Russia, China ETC. they were run by Kleptocrats, North Korea is a dictatorship run by a personality cult rather than communism. No real communist country could be like that. In order for true communism to succeed it has to be global. The revolution must be a global revolution.

JR: Yeah no matter what you'll never be able to have an independent communist country with all the other countries capitalist and with a world economy that's capitalist.

Koba: That brings me to Venezuela. Actually North Korea is a better example. How are people supposed to be taken care of on a sliver of land that doesn't have enough resources and arable land? YOU CANT!

JR: No, you can't. Yeah and, and... hear me out, this whole concept of borders and countries Its nothing but an artificial construct. Borders, nations and cultures really are a capitalist concept and an anti-socialist, anti-commuunist concept. Its all about control and...

Koba: Its control designed to control and hurt the workers.

JR: Yeah comrade. The purpose of borders, national identity like religion is to control the people and enslave them to the bosses. Its designed to contain and captivate resources and workers. Take Mexico for instance, they don't want them coming over here to get a better life than they have now and they know that they'll unite with the workers here and topple the system so they have borders, border walls, border fences to keep them in Mexico so they are enslaved and controlled. The ones here illegally quote unquote, they can't get benefits in most places and they have to work for almost nothing.

Koba: The capitalists meanwhile can travel as they please to do their business but the workers in these countries can't move freely in their native land sometimes not even beyond their villages because they don't want them to unite with other workers against the bosses. Then they tell you they're inferior, they're stealing jobs, they're behind wages being stagnant, I mean listen for a moment!! LISTEN! Stealing jobs??? I mean seriously? You want their jobs!? You want to work at McDonalds for one dollar fifty an hour? You want to mow lawns for fifty cents?

JR: I heard they work for less than that at McDonalds like one dollar a day!

Koba: Most of them do comrade!

JR: If they're not gonna hire an American for a living wage, what makes you think they will when they're gone?

Koba:Oh yeah!

JR Suppose you deport all the illegal aliens so called? Then what? They're never gonna hire you for a living wage unless they have to.

Koba: And they'll cheat.

JR: The only reason were living better than our ancestors a hundred years ago is because of marxism, because of unions, welfare, free healthcare etc and all this stemmed from revolutionary doctrine.

BB: So why isn't it working out or should I ask why is there no true communism?

Koba: Because its compromises by the capitalists is why. Karl Marx even predicted this would happen. The capitalists in the richer countries would make compromises to appease the workers in this country and pacify them and get them to be thankful for what they have instead of taking risks and rising up while in the poorer countries where they do business they can continue to exploit the poor there and if they speak out use the military to put them down.

Jr: Its a start but in order for everything to work out we need to throw out the bosses and we need to take over the system. the workers must control everything from the executive to the floor. The means of production, the economy all must be decided by the workers in a fair democratic system under an economic collective.

Koba: And that...

JR: Its not gonna be like Russia and China, its not gonna be like North Korea, its gonna be a workers paradise.

Koba: That... That there is the struggle of the workers. The proletariot. One day, its gonna happen. Its not if but when and the capitalists know this and are scared. That's why they're instituting all this fascist crap to undermine civil libarties because the system is buckling. Leon Trotsky stated that the sign of a collapsing system is the use of fascism. They're trying to stir up unemployed workers to go against their interests in attacking occupy wall street, attacking liberals and instituting a totalitarian government. They are doing this to delay the inevitable and enjoy their unbelievable and disgustingly rich lifestyle for as long as they can before they get clobbered.

BB: Okay, I want come back to this political discussion later on, but let me ask about your movement Anti-racist action Chicago South side and about what's going on? And I want to ask about The Ashford house in Tinley park, Trump riots and so on.

Koba: Okay Yeah.

JR: Sure what?

BB: Um... How, did you get involved with ARA?

Koba: Well, I got involved while in Minnesota in Minneapolis I think it was. I was at a gathering for youth communists and they were handing out flyers about confronting Nazis and about anti-racist action Antifa, I think this was around 08 or 09 and they were gonna confront Nazis having a meeting up in St Cloud Minnesota. It was real cold and there wasn't any fights but the police arrested a couple of people. I investigated and spoke to people and I really like what I read about and I read about the Toledo riots back in 05. I really wanted to be involved with them and I wanted to beat the S**t out of these nazis. I like a good fight now and again.

BB: When was your first big fight with them?

Koba: It was in Terra Haute Indiana, the racists were holding a march and we followed them and I walked up with a bottle and smashed one in the head. I got arrested. By the way, none of the nazis got arrested only those in anti-racist action were arrested. I got a plea deal, 500 hours community service and a suspended jail sentence. I also did some fighting in Martinsville Indiana, in Santa Barbara California, Oakland, um... A few other places. Peoria, Chicago, don't remember all of them.

Jr:I got involved in university. It was right from the get go, my first action was Madison Wisconsin fighting the tea party and I went up against the nazis in Orange county California. I'm not as good a fighter as Koba is but when were together we may not look it but when we get together, were a nazi's worst nightmare.

Koba: Yeah he did a good job at times.

BB: When did you two meet?

Koba: We met in Chicago and later we would hang out in San Francisco, in LA, sometimes we part ways for the winter, JR like to go to Austin Texas and some of the places in the south, me? I have had it with middle America and the Bible belt. I can't stand it. I grew up in that place and it sucked!

BB; That bad?

Koba: Every town I lived in when I was growing up before I ran away had either less than a thousand people living in it or at the most, three or four thousand people. Everyone a bunch of drunken hillbilly redneck racist podunk white trash. The black folks if there were black people living there were all uncle Toms, there is nothing to do there. Nothing except drink or watch TV.

Jr: What about sex? Any of that?

Koba: No. OH NO! NO! God! Ugh! If you saw the women there you'd run for... Listen! These places are terrible. No one wants to live there. When people grow up they all move out and leave. The women that are still there are disgusting! YUCK! I'd rather have sex with the livestock at one of the farms before even talking to these nasty fat pieces of nasty nasty...

JR: [laughs]

Koba: Its bad. Real bad. Nothing to do but drink, fight and watch TV. That and go to church. I will never go there unless it's important business. Jack Rabbit can keep Texas and Louisiana. I want the city and the left coast.

BB: Jack rabbit you said you like women and sex right?

JR: yeah I do. I am omniverous. Doesn't matter whether its a man or woman, as long as their hot I'll F**k em! I prefer women but I like handsome men!

BB: Your bisexual?

JR: Yes. I found out when I was a teenager. I kept it secret never talked about it. I used to draw on my computer with Photoshop erotic scenes with men and women but I kept in under tabs. I didn't come out until I was in University. By then I'd had my share of conquests in both genders.

BB: What kind of men or women do you like?

JR: My favorite are Mexican women. I also like Filipinos.

Koba: Oh you like Pinays?

JR: Actually I prefer Filipino men.

KOBA: [head down laughing]

BB: Really?

JR: See, when I was 13 I was visiting my cousin and his family in West LA and they had a Nanny and servant who was Mexican. DAMN! She was hot! Its better than those Miss Universe contests! She also was an excellent cook. Since then, I've loved mexican and Caribbean cuisine, I've loved Mexican women. Filipino men are the closest thing there is.

Koba: This is what I love about gay people man! They have this take on life that I never could understand completely but its awesome!

BB: Lets talk about ARA south side. How many people in it that are white or black?

Koba: The vast majority are black but there are white folks like us.

BB: How do people react to that? I mean white people in Chicago's south side?

Koba: there are white people there in some decent neighborhoods but the area we live in is not as good.

BB: Any conflict?

JR: Well sometimes they have a grudge against us and they think were trouble makers. The ones you gotta watch out for are the ones who are conservative and hold nationalistic views. They vote like white people and act like white people and their all, wasup white boy! What you doin in my side of the hood! Most just are worried that were out to take over. Were not, were just homeless white folks fighting on their behalf.

Koba: Its not like you think, people there aren't gonna smash you for being white but there are issues, some black people there have been persecuted by whites and hold a grudge against you. Others don't like people outside their neighborhood and then there are the gangs. You just have to follow good street smarts and you'll be alright.

JR: The real prblem is the gang wars. When there's a rumble in the jungle and pistols are popping that's when you need to hit the deck.

Koba: that's the problem. Guns.

BB: Are there any gangmembers in ARA south side?

Koba: A couple I think. they got no choice, they got children they need to help them and they are putting their lives on the line. Outsiders, they think that people like that are criminals low lives and thugs but to me, to be willing to risk your life and sell drugs, go to war and risk death or incarceration just to help your son or daughter have a shot at a better life is noble and courageous I think. And its just racism and blind ignorance I think.

JR: Its mostly ignorance. Growing up in my insulated wealthy household, we were told by the man that people do that because they are too lazy to get a job but the reality is they can't get a job! Black people in South side are the last ones hired, first to be put out, they can't get a loan to start a business, there's no food, there's no hope.

Koba: Crime is the failure of capitalism. That we are willing to peddle poison, turn on our fellow workers and kill for the highest bidder just to live one more day is a travesty. Its proof to me that capitalism is a failure.

JR: Yeah but were told that the solution is more guns and more capitalism and that if we just take all these poor people who are out of work and marginilize them more and more things will get better. It doesn't work and never has.

BB: I have heard it said that you are a street gang. Council of conservative citizens for instance calls you a Marxist street gang in Chicago one of the most lethal.

Koba: I wouldn't say were a street gang but yeah if you want we'll call it that.

JR: Street gang! HA! We aint a gang but if that's how they want to play it that's how we roll with it! Were an organization of civil rights activists and we defend our community by going where there are racists and give them the warm welcome they deserve.

BB: Does your organization peddle drugs? How does it get money?

Jr: We get our money from each other. Sometimes people donate money, some gang bangers in our group they tend to be the biggest donors.

Koba: Most of our money and most of the support base comes from within the group. Like we were saying we aren't really a street gang but we have people in gangs or who have relatives in them that contribute but for the most part its every man for himself. The money we get from work, welfare, SSI and so on is what goes into the group. Most of this is for legal fees.

BB: what about say murder, death, have you had to kill people in the organization? Has ARA south side taken part in drive by shootings? Assassinations? Hits? acts that would maybe considered terrorism? I'm not talking about what happened at the Ashford House at Tinley Park neither, I'm talking about some really violent really crazy stuff.

Koba and Jack Rabbit looked at each other. I assured them that they would be paid, showed them the money I had in a vanilla envelope in my jacket pocket and assured them of their confidence.

JR: You do know sir that we could get into some serious S**T if we reveal this to you and people find out.

BB: No one will know its you.

Koba: If we give this to you, are you going to use it against ARA and against other revolutionaries like us?

BB: I can't imagine how I'll do it. I mean if I wanted to really malign you guys I'd just make something up, say things like that you worked with Islamic jihadists, Hamas, Hezbollah, I could just say that you tried to bomb the Sears Tower and make up names from criminal databases with help from the Chicago Police Department.

JR: Were worried you might

Koba: The problem isn't that. I don't really give a F**K if someone does do that. I'd say let them, more power to us! Go ahead make S**t up about us. What I am worried about and were all worried about is getting caught snitching. Where we're from snitches don't just get stitches, they get wasted and not in a good way too. I don't want to reveal names that could cause CPD to come down on us and arrest everyone know what I'm saying?

BB: They wont. Just make up names, say he did she did he said she said.

JR: They could still find out. Chicago PD practice torture and intimidation tactics that are considered legal in Illinois. Some cop gets a sniff of this, decides to arrest people like us and torture them to give names a lot of bad stuff could happen.

BB: I doubt it. Given the violent and brutal history of CPD, they'd more likely come down right now just for what you did at Ashford house. They're not going to draw more bad publicity to themselves like they already have.

Koba: Okay... but you know mums the word and we could waste you for what its worth.

BB: I know. Just tell me what you feel comfortable about don't name names.

Koba: [rubs eyes] Anyway... How about getting us more coffee and snacks at the food court?

BB: Sure...

After buying more food and coffee for Koba and Jack Rabbit they calmed down and spilled their guts. There wasnt' much that no one didn't know already...

Koba: ARA South side isn't really a gang but we like to give that impression to the racists. White supremacists wont dare go down to South side to start trouble but a lot of residents who work have to work in the loop downtown or in white areas doing whatever menial job is needed, cleaning, cooking, waiting tables and so on and white folks like to prey on them and rob them, rape them even kill them. The KKKcops wont do a thing about it neither. That's one of the reasons we got started to protect brothers and sisters who struggle to care for their families. When that S**t happens, people like me and Jack Rabbit go to work.

BB: In what way?

JR: Payback!

BB: Like what?

Koba: Okay, Tinley Park do you know about Tinley Park?

BB: I confess I'm not familiar with Chicago.

Koba: Okay... Are you familiar with Orange County California?

BB: Not quite... I've been there.

Koba: Well Orange county is one of the most racist and conservative parts of America. Everyday there's a hate crime, the city of Orange actually paid real estate developers to keep out minorities and the poor. I've been there and seen what goes on. Its hell.

BB: And Tinley Park is a racist neighborhood.

JR: Big time! The whole place is white white white! They want to keep it that way.

Koba: The only black folks there are slave wage earners. They come from south side to work there and they're treated like crap. There was this black woman from out of state who was going to do some shopping at Lane Bryant the manager refused to let her buy there because she was black. Told her to leave. When she got mad and argued with the manager another man grabbed her, assaulted her and threw her out and called her the n-word and told her never to come back.

BB: Is that right? She didn't call the police?

Koba: She tried to but she didn't have a cell phone and when she went to the stores to call the police they refused to help her and threw her out. Eventually a security guard came and told her that nothing was going to be done and that she was ordered to leave or she would be arrested. The police later showed up and did an investigation but no one wanted to help her all because she was black. They couldn't find the man. They wouldn't do anything.

BB: So you did something?

Jr: We did or at least one of our members did. He got fed up and went over and wasted everyone in the store, the customers, the manager, the clerk, all racist Pieces of S**t who had it coming.

BB: What happened then?

Koba: Sureprisingly no one did a thing when this woman was beat up but when a big black guy pays back the favor to a store run by white supremacist white trash everyone was up in arms. Even President Obama was upset! He said it on the news!

BB: The shooter ever get caught

Koba: No he took off. I think Jack Rabbit knew him? Comrade?

JR: Yeah. I don't remember his name but he took off after it went down. I never saw him again after that. All I have to say is thank you and well done!

BB: Anything else you've done? Like have you two killed people or done anything like this?

Koba: We prefer not to say but yes. I have murdered people and everyone of them got what they deserved

BB: What kind of other crimes have ARA committed?

Koba: We did quite a lot actually. Shootings, arson and so on.

BB: Can you give me another like say an arson

JR: Um...

Koba:I got a better idea, Ashford House.

BB:Okay Tell me about the fight that went down at the Ashford house restaurant. How did that go? Why? And were you two involved

Koba: Yes we were. Were proud of it and were not sorry. I wont go into the details but these racists were having a get together a meet and greet so called meeting they were gonna talk about stuff and a lot of them are nazis.

JR: Yeah they're mostly Stormfront KKK and a bunch of other s**t.

BB: European Heretige association I believe they were called? Why is it racist to talk about your origins?

Koba: Its not! We're not talking about Italians at olive garden talking about Grandma going through ellis island or reminiscing about the old country, were talking about white supremacists bragging how they're better than everyone just because they are white and come from a continent that caused more murders and more crimes than any other in history!

JR: They are elitist and they are counter-revolutionary. That alone is enough to warrant what we did to them. We decided to meet and greet so to speak with our fists.

BB: What was that like

KOBA: I wont go into it. Just that it didn't last long, we smashed some people up, smashed up tables and ran around beating the s**t out of the racists. We then ran for it before the cops showed up. That's all.

BB: You got away?

Koba: Most of us. I mean it was wild. We threw off our hoodies we were wearing I... [snickers] I had fifty dollars I forgot about for a few days and it was gone. I threw it out by mistake. I was gonna use it for booze later on to celebrate but I mean the police were hot on our heels and I was scared they'd get us and I'd end up in Cook county jail and the Nazis would pay me back.

BB: You're proud of this?

Koba: Yeah we are

JR: Absolutely! We'd do it again if the opportunity arose. The racists know that the next time they have their meet and greet they'd better not be anywhere the ARA can get them. They know better than to mess with us, they learned their lesson.

BB: Can you tell me what other capers you've undertaken, you mentioned killing, arson ETC. what are your targets?

Koba: Yeah we kill people and we do whatever. Call it whatever you want, crime, caper, terrorism, murder, we don't care.

BB: Who do you go after?

JR: Racists mainly but we also go after anyone against our revolution and anyone who stands against us, tea party, republicans, capitalists, veterans, lately we've been active in targeting vets. I love to watch them die.

BB: You go around killing veterans?

Koba: Absolutely!

BB: I thought you said there were vets on your side or would join you?

Koba: Only those who renounce capitalism and fight on our side. There are plenty of vets from Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan ETC who we work with. I had lunch with a black brother who was in Nam, told me how they fraged their commanding officer after he was raping children in a village. Told me how soldiers would shoot at villagers that they thought they were protecting.

JR: There are exceptions. That and world war 2 vets, they were on our side but Veterans of Korea, Nam, Iraq, Grenada, if they fought against communists, if they participated in American criminal wars like the Balklands, so called war on terrorism-

KOBA: War to pracitce terrorism you mean,

JR: Yeah, these vets who defend an oppressive government and a nation founded on white supremacy, they are our biggest enemies and lately they have become our biggest targets.

Koba: So you see, if you're a vet, if you aren't with us, you're against us and you're a bigger threat than those stupid rednecks we beat up in the Ashford house. We'll kill you.

BB: Why is ARA targeting vets? I haven't seen that on your websites anything about that.

Koba: For good reason. We don't want to let it be known that were gunning for veterans who haven't renounced fascist American and work for us. They'd think were after all servicemen, the GOP and the fascists would use corporate media to smear us and get servicemen and women to not join us. It would alienate the masses and we don't want that. Were not after all veterans, all service personnel, were just after fugitive war criminals and vets who support the American fascist culture and government. That's all.

JR: Were mostly after Vietnam vets and vets who fought communists in Asia, Grenada and elsewhere. They're getting old and we don't want them to die out naturally, we want them to pay for what they did.

Koba: Vietnam vets are the worst. After that, Iraqi freedom vets. They have the blood of millions of women and children and they need to be wasted in the worst way possible.

BB: Have you guys done that? Have you murdered vets?

Koba: Yup!

JR: I killed one last month. [laughs] It was fun to watch!

BB: Would you like to share it?

JR: Koba and I were in Indianapolis a few weeks ago, I wont say why but there was this homeless old veteran in a mechanical wheel chair flying a flag, he told us he was in Vietnam and we were on a bridge late at night when this happened. We asked if he served in Nam, if he killed women and children and was sorry about what happened and he said no he's not sorry, he said he was glad we were over there and sorry they didn't win. Later on we beat the s**t out of him, picked up his chair and threw him in it off the bridge into the water. Never came up and no one saw us. [laughs] It was so funny!

Koba: [giggles] I mean I vaguely remember, I was drunk, I really wanted to murder this old p**k for what he did. I don't think they ever found his body, I think he's still rotting in the bottom.

BB: Why target old people in wheel chairs?

Koba: why not? Ask Jack Rabbit, he wanted to do it.

JR: Because one time, he was young, he was rash, he murdered and probably raped Vietnamese girls, burned down their villages, murdered innocent people. These people deserve to die for that doesn't matter their condition or age. He was unrepentant. I was glad it happened. I've done more things like that too.

BB: Like what?

Koba: Um... I uh... Well, there was this one veteran in San Fernando, I was there wintering in California, there was this a** hole veteran biker guy who was in Iraq. I socialized with him, befriended him, he didn't know I was a commie, I had an illegal weapon with me that I was gonna use during a couple of burglaries later just in case the owners are home. One night when no one was around, I let him have it. Took him out right in the face. Ran scared thinking the police would get me, I got away, hid in the foothills, the police labeled it an unsolved murder that was gang related because he had been involved with Hells Angels. That was a relief. Jack Rabbit, I remember you were real scared But he had it coming. He was a racist, said that the Iraqis were inferior and that all muslims had to be killed.

JR: Bravo comrade. I did some things like that too. I prefer arson. See in vietnam they burned down villages just because they alleged there were Viet cong in the area to punish and scare them so I do the same thing. I wont say where it happened but two occasions I saw yellow ribbons on a home on a window and I wanted to burn it to the ground.

BB: Did you?

Jr: Yes I did. It was on the news, the family was crying and upset and they talked about how this fascist pig served his country and how they all got together and helped him. I wonder if they'd do the same still help him if he was a black man or hispanic?

Koba: did they find out it was arson?

JR: It was suspected arson. I was in my motel room laughing at the news broadcast of it. They're all huddled crying about. BOO HOO! WE LOST EVERYTHING! And the whole neighborhood turning out and crying with them. What bull S**T! They did worse things in Vietnam let me tell you and yet the villagers were all bad people who deserved it just because they aren't white.

Koba: yeah and we were supposed to protect them while we were there.

JR: I know...

BB: How many arsons have you done.

JR: I wont say but two were against veterans. I tried on a few other occasions but it was either too risky or they saw me and thought I was a burglar. When I walk through a neighborhood and see a yellow ribbon on a house, I want to either burn it down or beat the s**t out of the owner. When I see someone with a bumper sticker supporting our troops or something quote patriotic, if they have a Donald Trump sticker, I want to smash the car, beat up or even murder the animal that owns it.

Koba: Veterans and their supporters are our biggest targets now because of the war heating up and because the Nam vets are dying out so we want to pay them back and avenge the people of Vietnam on as many we can find.

BB: Any other successful deaths of veterans you'd like to relay?

Koba: Not many, its not easy to kill someone and get away with it and when its done you gotta lay low. It costs money. I'd rather use it for drinking or for women or whatever else.

JR: even if you don't succeed you have to run like hell and run out of town. I like saved up a years worth of welfare to go kill a few vets and fascists in California and Arizona and I never got a one. Close but no. I blew it all in one month on fare for greyhound and Amtrak to get out of there before the police closed in.

Koba: Did they catch you or broadcast your description it on the news comrade?

Jr: Yeah on two occasions, but I wasn't caught. That's a relief. I was gonna kidnap the daughter of an Iraq war vet I saw on the internet hold her for ransom, it was a F**k up cause her brother saw us and called the cops and I had to drive out of there and they had an artists sketch of me on the news, they thought I was a pervert trying to kidnap girls when I really wanted to kidnap her for political means. The sketch fortunately was awful. Didn't look anything like me at all. The other time I was gonna kill this old timer in his home who had been in Vietnam and look like a burglary gone wrong, but I got caught. he had a gun and pointed it at me. I ran like the dickens. Police came to the home but by the time they got started I was at the greyhound terminal waiting to catch a bus that took me outta there! I lost a years worth of welfare I was pissed off. I went back to LA and panhandled on the off ramp. I was pitiful.

BB: Let me ask you Jackrabbit, do you have any sexual desire for children?

JR: No. Gosh no. I'm not a pedophile. minimum age for me is um... 15 or 16.

Koba: I believe that's still under age.

Jr: If you've seen some of them you'd disagree.

Koba: I know but its still... Oh well... At least you got away comrade. If they did catch you they'd kill you in jail. Attacking vets is something these cons don't like and they hate commies.

Jr: I know. I wouldn't be safe even in PC.

BB: do you target other people instead of veterans

Koba: Yeah, racists, nazis, skinheads, conservative activists, anti-communists ETC. veterans right now are in season but these others, well get them too.

BB: Have you guys performed any crime that has been highly profiled in the news that is-

Koba: You know.... uh... You know what I don't think, I don't.... no. That's enough sir. I've think we've talked about that enough.

BB: Fair enough lets move on. Lets talk about your views on America

Koba: Okay... What of it?

BB: I don't know. You tell me? What do you think of America and what America is like?

Koba: You really want to know?

BB: Shoot.

Koba: Greatest and most powerful nation in history and the worst. This country is S**t. Racist, everything. It has all the worlds wealth and wont share a damn thing with it.

JR: This whole country was founded on racism, genocide and slavery by racist slave owners.

BB: But not all of them owned slaves, many opposed it

Koba: But most of them did have slaves and if they were against it why wasn't it abolished right then and there?

BB: Why was it abolished if its founded on slavery?

Koba: Well duh! People realize that a country founded on slavery isn't going to prosper and that its wrong to take other human beings and abuse them because they're black or whatever.

Jr: Most of all I think it was the money.

Koba: Wait comrade! Wait, I know what you're saying I know I just need to say this. See, no one believes in the constitution and in the so call bill of limited rights anymore because there are people who know that its wrong. Its wrong to let people say what they want like fire in a crowded theater or that owning m16s isn't a good idea and that slavery is not a good idea neither! People at least, I mean most people have some good sense and conscience to know that murder is wrong. When they published Uncle Tom's cabin, everyone got to see first hand what happens when you have slavery. People are not driven always by material need there is a human instinct about um... How do I explain? um... When I think of slavery I don't just think of scenes from Uncle Tom's cabin or Gone with the wind. I'm thinking that a fellow human being, a worker no less is being distressed. His labor is being robbed of him and so is his dignity by an over privileged pompous fat white piece of s**t with so much wealth hoarded that a lot of people could use. That and there's a financial incentive to stop slavery. They're doing jobs that workers should do for a living wage, the southern plantation owners were viewed by the northern capitalists as competitors so they fan the flames and ignite a civil war to stop it while at the same time profiting from taxpayer funded wars again.

JR: The thing you need to understand is that capitalism is behind just about all the wars we've had in human history. War is profitable to the ruling classes regardless of what country they live in. Everytime there's a war the rich and the ruling class always come out on top while the workers are sent to murder each other under the illusion of national or religious identity. Its all about money. The only reason there was a civil war is because there is a need for profit. I remember reading about the uniforms that the union army wore and the cotton used to weave those uniforms came from the plantations of these same southern hicks. The northern businesses also wanted to eliminate their competitors in the south. I remember also reading how great Britain and France wanted to side with the confederates. You know why? They hated the confederates! Queen Victoria, prime minister lord Palmerston and Napoleon III were all against slavery but the bottom line was profits! Britain and France were industrialized nations with a big weaving textile industry and the country, they, they were heavily dependent on southern cotton. They had to aid the Confederates.

Koba: the whole reason the civil war was started like any other war was about money. It wasn't because of slavery, or states rights or because they didn't like Lincoln, it wasn't because of anything but southern cotton and profits for the rich from cotton.

BB: What about the revolutionary war

Koba: Same thing. The founders were wealthy slave owners. White collor Not a worker among them. They wanted independence from the King of England because they wanted to be free from British taxes and because the British East India company held a virtual monopoly on trade. Comrade? I believe you know about it?

JR: Yeah they didn't want to pay taxes to King George or anyone. they wanted their own offshore tax haven. Also The British East India company had special trading privileges. Think about it, most of America was run by merchants, bankers and speculators. Even before the revolution, the US colonies had the biggest trade in the world. Their ships went everywhere in America! I was in Salem Massachusetts and before it was known for the witch trials it was known as the biggest shipping center in all of North America!! It was this way until the early 1800s. The tour guide explained that the only reason the story of the witch trials became known is because of sailors going all over the world and fudging the story with their own versions which were unbelievable. That's the only reason it got attention.

Koba: The American revolution was all about profit. The banksters and profiteers and speculators on both sides of the Atlantic were all in on it and wanted a piece of it!

JR: That's the only reason there was a revolutionary war, capitalism and speculation. If it wasn't profitable it would never have gotten off. In fact the founders if they were Marxists they'd be hunted down and killed

Koba: All that phony baloney freedom. There was never ever any freedom in this country. The only people who were free were the capitalist ruling classes and their evil despotic allies.

BB: What about the bill of rights

Koba: What rights?

JR: We have no right but to work into our graves! DERP! God bless America!

Koba: the only rights you will ever have is to die when you no longer can work. Till then your a slave and you don't even know it. You think your free and that you are blessed to have all this freedom and liberty but in reality your just fortunate to live in a situation in a country where the capitalists aren't able to exploit you like they want to do like in the third world.

JR: The bill of rights is all about freedom for the capitalists. The first amendment what a joke. You don't have freedom of speech or the press. If you want to have a TV show you have to either have enough money to own a TV station and pay for licensing from the government or you have to find someone who is who will pick up on your idea. If it isn't profitible-

Koba: If he thinks its not profitable

JR: If it isn't and the show has too much truth to it, out it goes.

Koba: The very idea that we have freedom is ridiculous.

Jr: Second amendment. That's something else. The right to bear guns. the right for someone to kill someone for any excuse they want. The purpose of that law, listen! I just love how these fat cats shout about how the 2nd amendment prevents slavery and subjegation. That's ridiculous! The original intent of the amendment was the opposite! So the could put down slave revolts and uprisings by workers!

Koba: Not only that, it gives them the right to kill people they don't like and don't agree with especially if its supportive of liberation. My great granduncle was a vigilante anti-communist anti-civil rights in Missouri during the 60s and my dad told me all about him and how if you went around saying that blacks, women or gays or anyone should be treated equal or that the minimum wage should be hiked or that workers should be afforded rights then they'd go after you and kill you.

BB: Was he in the Klan?

Koba: No but he supported them. he belonged to right wing groups not related to the Klan. But they would kill union organizers and civil rights activists, they killed Jews, they killed liberals so called and they'd get away. the police let them do it because they supported it. That's what the second amendment was for, to allow these white trash nuts to off anyone who opposed them. Only one time was he prosecuted and the judge dismissed the case. He was popular.

BB: Who was he?

Koba: Don't remember. It really made me sick. I don't think even want to bring it up. I think one of the things that lead me down the road to being a communist and a radical was that and the stories of my family and my upbringing. I mean where I am from people still have that mindset and they do not value human life at all even though they claim to be so called pro-life. HA! what a joke!

Most of these organizations however were of a socialistic mindset. The Klan for instance supported abortion for non-whites, Universal healthcare for whites and supported gun restrictions especially against their intended victims like black people.

JR: Yeah if I could add comrade, that's amazing they claim we don't value human life but they support banning abortion because, OH! ITS A HUMAN BEING! Well what about people starving to death in the third world? They're human beings aren't they? What about homeless? Are they human beings????

Koba: The so called pro-life movement is not pro-life they're pro-profit. To the capitalists, a fetus is a potential profit that can net them untold fortunes over a matter of years. That Fetus is an asset to them. it could become a worker that they can exploit from childhood till its 40 maybe do something else for them but once that child is born its on its own. If its disabled, if it can't work then its worthless and is discarded to die.

JR: Once you turn too old to work they don't value you anymore. If you can't work you're of no value. Tough luck sailor!

Koba: The pro-life movement supported the war in Iraq which induced thousands of military abortions on the inhabitants of Iraq and Afghanistan, the Pro-life movement supports cutting and getting rid of welfare, social security, SSI, unemployment benefits they support laws that criminalize the homeless, they do not value human life in any way.

In truth These programs are anti-life and do not help anyone. I should know this because I used to be on welfare I know people forced on welfare as well. They live in hell...

JR: Pro-lifers are anti-life. the party when we take over were gonna increase the amount of money for welfare and social security. Were gonna increase the amount of money for jobs, wages retirement pensions and so on.

BB: So there will be abortion and euthanasia?

Koba: Yes. We intend to let people die when they want to end their suffering. Also we will mandate the abortion of fetuses with the potential to become retarded or crippled. No one should be forced to be born and endure all that misery and suffering. Donald Trump and these other republicans they don't care. These kids are gonna be miserable and suffer their whole lives all because they want their voting base to profit. Under the party the retarded, the lame, the crippled will be aborted.

BB: And what about those already born. And what about the elderly?

Koba: They'll be taken care of by the government a lot better than we take care of them now. The people and the communist party will provide. We will also expect family members to provide emotional support as well. The elderly, they did what they could and in honor of their achievements will be allowed to rest during the remainder of their lives. Hey! We had elder care in the USSR we didn't kill them like in Nazi Germany or throw them out into the gutter like they used to in this country a hundred years ago!

True but in the USSR, the elderly were neglected and left to wallow in their filth. In a way they were worse off than the elderly in Nazi Germany who were murdered by Hitler's government or those in heartless communities elsewhere including sadly in the USA during the gilded age. In the USSR, elders lived with their children and relatives. In the USA when we were still Christain, the elderly were cared for by their children and loved ones or in charitable institutions run by the church. Though not perfect they were far better than elders in China and the USSR who were kept barely alive at a bare minimum while the communist state focused on pampering the party rulers and fueling government oppression through a military police state and imperialist aggression.

BB: Who decides if a fetus deserves to die or not?

Koba: Doctors discretion. If that fetus has a high probablity that its gonna be a retard baby or a cripple, yank it out.

BB: what are you're thoughts on eugenics and forced sterilization.

Koba: Ah... I see. You are referring to sterilizing undesirables or people with hereditary disability?

BB: Either one.

Koba: We don't believe in sterilizing people who will give healthy children just because they are different or later got a disability. We do believe in sterilizing people who have hereditary mental illness and disability and I just want to say right up I will probably be the first in line for that because people in my family are psychotic and mental. Just damn nasty. A lot of my uncles were schizophrenic, I have relatives who were serial killers, lunatics, I too am crazy and a serial killer. The only reason they weren't locked up is because what they were doing was seen by the people where I'm from as normal behavior.

JR: [laughs]

Koba: Yeah, I mean if you go to Kansas or Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Mississippi and say that Jesus speaks to you, I'm not kidding they will believe you there are people all over there who believe everything you say. If you say that Jesus spoke to you and say that this will happen they'll believe you.

JR: What if it doesn't come true

Koba: No problem, they just say its God's will or, THE LORD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS!!!

Jr:[laughs again]

Koba: My dad told me that before I was born there was this hysteria that the world would end in 1980, this guy this nut preacher went around saying that January 1st 1980, the world was gonna end in flames and to repent and people gave him money and everything, one old woman gave all she had to this coot and left nothing to her children. Then on January 1st 1980 he had a revelation that God decided to spare the Earth and delay judgement because they'd been such good people and that they had to live godly lives.

BB: And they believed him?

Koba: Yeah!

BB: Why was God gonna blow up the earth did he say why?

Koba: He said that he was gonna blow up the earth because there were too many gays for the earth to handle. About a few years later he said that AIDS and HIV was a blessing by God and that AIDS saved the Earth from being destroyed.

JR: Oh really!

Koba: Really Comrade. Don't worry, he died around the time after I was born. Dad told me about it and said that the false prophecy and the fact that prayer isn't answered is proof that there is no God and that Religion is Bulls**t and that we can do whatever we want.

I was gonna comment about something about the judgement of God starting in the church but why bother? What a sad story! The Church could use a smacking from God just from that alone.

JR: Was he a con-artist or did he really believe it?

Koba: He really did believe it. All the money people gave him, he gave all of that away to a homeless shelter and the children's hospital.

JR: What kind of shelter was it?

Koba: It was one of those crap shelters where they let you stay only for two weeks a year then kick you out and while you're there you have to look for work and do chores and go to church and s**t.

JR: What about the serial killers?

Koba: Well they are serial killers mostly black people and anyone they didn't like and they got let off since the victims were either indians or black or not well liked in town. The rest were just hysterical looneys who said Jesus spoke to them or something. I'm not kidding. I think only one or two of them got locked up in insane asylums and that's only because they went too far which is surprising to say the least. My dad was diagnosed with Paranoid Schizophrenia he told me about it and sometimes he'd speak to invisible people when he was alone and if I watched him he'd beat me for it. That's probably why he drank so much.

BB: So people who are seen by the state as I mean... How do we decide?

Koba: Okay again hereditary mental illness and disability that's not so hard. We bring them to a panel of doctors and experts, look at the family tree and if you have a lot of Schizos, psychos, bipolar, a lot of retarded people they'll have their tubes tied. They'll still be able to enjoy sexual intercourse but they can't have children. Its a win win situation!

BB: It seems dangerous that someone can be diagnosed based on the word of a so called expert and based on a panel which uses the word of a professional that probably wrote it at a time mental illness was not effectively diagnosed could do that kind of invasive procedure.

Koba: They wont. They'll make sure. In order to classify someone has having that problem they will have to have undeniable evidence as rooted in family trees and they can appeal the decision and have their tubes untied if its found that their family isn't unhealthy.

JR: What's the big deal? There's too many people in the world anyway and I mean isn't everyone on earth like a relative according to these nuts?

BB: I need to get back on topic. What about America tell me more about what you see wrong

Jr: Aside from the greed and racism? Lots. America is the biggest force of imperialism and greed and evil in this planet in this world in fact. I'm not kidding! We call America a standard bearer of freedom and hope for the world. NO! Its a racist country that enslaves the planet under capitalism. All these countries in the world want to be free and plan their own economies and their own destiny and America comes in and says NO! NO! NO! NO! NO you can't do that! They then manipulate the system, topple the government they set up and put these unelected leaders in charge people they didn't elect and take over their economies. Look at Chille, the majority wanted marxism and wanted Democracy, America steps in kills their elected ruler and puts in a dictator they didn't elect who murders everyone who wont go along with what the Wall street banksters want yet were the aggressors! Were this evil empire and Pinochet and the rest murder innocent people. Not only that the working poor went into a tailspin and wound up in grinding poverty all to profit the capitalists in Wall street.

Koba: the united states is a slave master of these puppet regimes overseas. Democracy is inefficient and not profitable to the fat cats on Wall street. They don't want the people to have their say in how things are produced. They don't want to own their own economies and decide they rather want them to do as they, the bankers say. Its sad really.

JR: America is the standard bearer of inequality, racism and injustice. Not to mention hypocrisy. They are the slave masters of the worlds nations and they use capitalism, mass entertainment, military dictators and so on to control everyone. The poor countries that can't fight back are run through wars, military dictators, sweatshops terrorism and religion. The wealthy countries of America are controlled through mass entertainment and distractions and gossip, the wealth of the world, the cares of the world so to speak, they gotta work, raise a family and they are afraid of being out of line because if they become like us, they'll lose their jobs, they'll lose their homes their loved ones all these things. We had to sacrifice a lot of that when we woke up. That's the Price we pay for embracing the truth and taking the red pill. You gotta ask yourself, is it worth taking the red pill of communism instead of the blue pill of capitalism and the lies they dish out on Fox, CNN and elsewhere? I think it is. I'm sick and tired of these corporate fat cats like my parents lying and seeing starving children with their bellies swollen.

Koba: It doesn't matter what anyone says, history is on our side. A hundred years from now America is gonna be a footnote in history. Everyone will remember how she did the world no good, how she oppressed and ruled over everyone with an iron rod and created poverty and enslavement and how the worlds resources were bled dry and all the global warming and pollution they caused. A thousand years from now if mankind doesn't go extinct because of America, we'll all remember America as the evil phony plutocracy run by a few people who held the world's wealth in her hand, the nation that enslaved other countries, murdered children and starved the children and calls it profit, freedom, fairness and hold market value over human values. America is the nation that murdered billions and murdered children just so an old big wig can make a profit. America will be remembered for being founded by slave owners, zealots and terrorists who terrorized the world.

BB:Lets talk about 9/11. What about that?

Koba: What?

BB: What are your thoughts? Do you think it was an insider job? Do you think its america's fault?

Koba: Heh! Yeah you'd like me to say it was a good thing?

BB: Say whatever you'd like.

Koba: 9/11 was the result of 19 crazy people like the people in my family and in my hometown who thought God wanted them to fly planes into buildings cause then they'd get 72 virgins. I mean the people in middle America are no different than these jihadi middle easterners. I mean... I think it was terrible that we allow people like that in here and that people are allowed to think that if you do this and you know what they're saying this is like the worst terror attack in history. I mean in terms of how it affected our lives and world wide what consequences it had like, yeah, all airline traffic around the world stopped, all the TV stations around the world talked about 9/11 and what happened. I remember it was terrible. So yeah of course it was bad but does that mean America is now special? I mean America kills more than that everyday with markets and capitalism. That all happened because some whackos were taught that some skydaddy is real and... It happened. It was terrible.

JR: 9/11 happened all because as Jeremiah Wright said... America's chickens are coming home to roost.

BB: Just a second I need to ask, have any of you been to churches like Jeremiah Wright's?

Koba: Yes we have

JR: We don't normally go to church unless they serve food or give away stuff. Trinity Church of Christ has bible studies and men's groups that have food, snacks during their meetings. You have to sit and listen to a sermon by a preacher and people talk about the bible but its worth it. Also, St Sabina has food.

Koba: I don't go to church regularly, I don't like religion but I do like Jeremiah Wright and I guess the other guy, Reverend Otis a little. I like how he preached against America I fully support him.

JR: I don't really like Otis moss too much but I did like Jeremiah Wright and I like Father Mike Pfleger and when they serve food to the homeless at St Sabina. Its a good church and they're more tolerant of Gay LGBT than Trinity church.

BB: St Sabina the catholic church with Father Pfleger?

JR:Yes

Koba: He's cool. Every other week food gets served there, there's give aways of clothes, hygene kits and stuff. Pfleger is a very cool guy. He knows what's wrong with the world he's kinda like Pope Francis and I support these people who help the poor and know that the capitalists are on their side. I'd rather go to a church where they serve food and where revolutionary stuff is preached than eat at some church where we gotta turn the other cheek and let these rich people own the air we breathe and pollute it.

JR: I like Francis a lot. I hope he helps topple the system.

BB: Do you believe the pope is a marxist?

JR: No, but he does preach about the poor and some of what he says I can relate to, so he's okay for that.

BB: So if a religious person a clergyman preaches about the needy, social justice than their on your side.

Koba: Not really but if they're supporting poverty, people in need and preaching against the capitalists than their okay. When the revolution starts we wont kill them just these preachers who stand up for big business and fascism.

BB: But you don't attend church services

Koba: No. I rarely go to church. If I'm hungry and I need food and I have no money or if my EBT card is maxed out then I'll like rob some rich guy like a veteran and steal from him or if I'm desperate eat from the garbage. But I don't like religion. My upbringing in middle F**king america has made me into an intolerant agnostic. I'm sorry but I wont touch it. I got nothing against church people like Jeremiah Wright, Al Sharpton, Pope Francis, Jesse Jackson and so on, I like them. Their okay and they can do what they need to do as long as they don't compromise the revolution.

BB: So religion wont be outlawed.

Koba: Not completely

JR: You'll have a little religious freedom but its gonna be controlled by the party and the people. The churches synagogues and mosques will have to register, they have to be loyal to the party but were not gonna have all these preachers rabbis or imams running around making hateful remarks and dividing the country.

Koba: In communism, True communism you can believe whatever you want. You can worship a pile of S**t if you want but don't conflict with the revolution or else.

BB: so there are limits

JR: Yeah well we all share the same world! You can't...

Koba: Yeah uh- sure I mean yeah. You can't just worship any way you want! I mean 9/11, we were talking about that! These people should never have been alive much less in this country. The US government is willing to kill anyone that gets in the way of big business and wall street but they wont put down a bunch of violent lethal religious fanatics like Islamic jihad, the Ku Klux Klan, the militia movements, the neo-confederates, falun gong, they do nothing.

JR: Yeah! I want to bring that up to. Falun Gong. China had good reason to go after these people. Falun Gong is evil. They are as bad as Al-qaeda! Their terrorizing China, murdering innocent people and the west is helping them do that. Their sabotaging China and when they crack down all the western, capitalist controlled media cry out that China, Oh look! China is murdering people, those damn commies! They hate religious freedom but no! China allows religious freedom to an extent that there are some limitations. Every religious group that is registered with the government agrees that these people are evil. Even underground groups not approved by the party are condemning Falun Gong but we hear only what the capitalists say.

Koba: I want to say this by the way, China isn't even communist. They haven't been that way since Mao died. He even warned the state was being taken over just like it is with Russia. I mean they enslave the population and work for the big businesses in America, they demolish public housing, I am so sick of hearing that they're communist when they haven't been communist in over 40 years!

JR: So bottom line, you don't have a right to do whatever you want to. You have to respect the party and the people and those around you. You can't be racist use racist speech because that hurts people emotionally and creates hostility and discrimination, you can't own guns because you might kill someone by mistake or go off. You can't pollute the air and water because everyone drinks and breathes it, you can't litter because its messy and no one wants to clean up after you.

BB: Lets get back to 9/11. How do you think that turned out? do you think America did it or that it was America's fault?

Koba: well... Um... I don't know. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was revealed the capitalists had Bush and Washington blow up their own towers. Ever since then they've profited greatly from it, they've used it as an excuse to do whatever they want, invade other countries, invade and steal oil, murder people who aren't white and who aren't Christian and create more problems for everybody.

JR: Not to mention losing our civil liberties with the patriot act, I told you and Koba told you, the constitution is nothing but a worthless piece of paper that only protects the elite. It doesn't protect workers. Just the elite.

Koba: I believe what Jeremiah Wright said. He put it best, 9/11 is America's fault. America's chickens came home to roost. For over a hundred years, America has gone all over the world, destroying democracies, undermining social justice, promoting dictators and religious radicals, killing innocent men women and children and promoting racism all over the world. America lost her independence we never had independence we just traded one set of elite rulers for another set. America did this to herself.

BB: Why is it Amereica's fault we were attacked.

Koba: Easy, you went around bombing other countries, forcing the people into misery and squalor, it was only a matter of time before they got sick of being pushed around and did something. The 19 hijackers and these other terrorists are really rebels. Its not terrorism its rebellion against terrorism. Listen... Terrorism has been defined as attacks on the civil population to advance an ideology. Well based on that America is guilty because America terrorizes other countries that only want to have a say in their own government and in the economy, America terrorizes homeless people, blacks, minorities, they murder people and ruin innocent lives everyday. This one brother I met a few years ago in Sacramento, he was put in prison for 15 years for a crime he never did when there was no evidence. Why? Because this guy he worked with was arrested and tortured by the police and forced to give names and he named this guy just to get out of torture and to avoid prosecution he said things that weren't true. He got arrested, went to jail and was prosecuted with nothing but this guys word that he had drugs on him. The jury and judge were white elitists. They all found him guilty all because of one man's word against his. He was sent to pelican bay, the worst of California's prison and got stabbed 4 times while he was there. He lost all his appeals, they never helped him out he was forced to rot there all because of one person's word. This goes on everyday in America. U S of KKK man! Jeremiah Wright is right. What kind of just God would bless a country that allows that? Even the bible says so. So take that and put it in your pipe and smoke it!

JR: Yeah you know these hijackers and suicide bombers, try and look at things from their angle okay? They have no life, no hope, they're forced to live under oppressive regimes, there's nothing to eat, no hygiene, no clothes, living in slums and the only way out is to kill yourself by blowing yourself up in a night club or flying a plane into a building. You get 72 virgins in paradise for all eternity and as a bonus, your oppressors go down with you but they go to hell. Its no wonder were not making any progress. These people have no hope. They'll keep on coming until either they wipe out all life there or the capitalists are wiped out.

Koba: Then they'll be others. These guys are angry and want revenge. We need to be persistent and determined like they are to win.

The old, its not our fault we murder women and children America is murderer of women and children argument. Communism at its finest...

JR: People become terrorists because their hopeless. Give them a carrot to dangle in front of them they'll do anything you ask for.

Koba: Its not terrorism, its a rebellion against capitalism and American fascism. I'm all for it.

BB: You support Al-qaeda, Iraq and the others

Koba: No, no man no we don't

JR: were for the people not these guys. Osama and Saddam, they are just US puppets. All religious fanatics. Forget about them.

Koba: But they weren't terrorists. They;re rebels. The US government is the terrorist.

BB: I thought it was a movement to bring about global Jihad and Islamic world conquest

Koba: well yeah but their misguided.

JR: Its like Sun Tzu said... The enemy of my enemy is my friend. But Islamic jihad is not in line with party doctrine. Were not worried about it too much. They wont last. Even if they succeed in taking over Europe and turning it into a caliphate they wont last. They'll fall apart just like Christianity in Europe.

Koba: Were rooting for them but we don't agree with Islam being the answer. The answer is communism and world revolution. Their not gonna last. Not with revolution stirring in other couuntries.

BB: So You're all for Islamic jihad taking over Europe.

Koba: no. NO!

JR: Were against that but we are glad that they are fighting back against capitalist America. Hopefully they'll last long enough to undermine the establishment from without.

Koba: You need to remember that the USA used to support these jihadists. The CIA armed them. Al-qaeda, Isis Et al is all the creation of the CIA and capitalism.

Jr: Its misguided. They're all on the right track but they have the wrong train. They need to get rid of Islamic theocracy and eventually as Isis and the Ayatollahs tear themselves apart we'll grow strong.

Koba: Correct. Its just like in the United states and Europe with Christianity. For over a thousand years, Christianity murdered and oppressed the workers and the masses rose up and toppled the church after centuries of uprising and rebellion removed the church. It wasn't easy, millions had to sacrifice their lives to be rid of this stupid fairy tale that enslaved Europe. The same thing is happening to fundamentalist Islam and even though Muslims are immigrating to Europe, most of them are leaving Islam or following a nominal version of Islam. The Europeans don't want to go through that again and they wont last. Even the far right in Europe is against it.

BB: But its all America's fault its happening?

JR: Yeah, The US armed and enabled Islamic jihad, the US funds overseas despots, the US oppresses the masses under global markets and free trade, the US provokes people who've had their lives ruined and are miserable into becoming terrorists.

Koba: Its just like with crime. You've got all this crime everywhere because people are being oppressed and are poor. They're gonna lash out. The poor are being oppressed. That's why all the crime ridden areas of America are also high poverty cities with little or no resources. There are no jobs, people are out of work and can't find work, they got kids to feed, face it, prayer and all these touchy feelly good lectures from Sean Hannity and Lee Doren aren't gonna feed an empty stomach. You're gonna have to rob and maybe kill someone to live and you're gonna probably either be killed or wind up in the penitentiary like I did.

BB: So Koba I never got to that how often have you been in trouble and maybe you two could tell me what kind of living arrangements you have going?

Koba: Well me and Jackrabbit like most ARA members either live in a communal home or are homeless. We got some places where we live where we split the rent some of us are homeless. We sleep outside or in the missions which are really really bad especially in the winter when its crowded so we go to California or Florida.

JR: Yeah, I mean places like Pacific Garden, Lincoln park are heinous. The people who run it are worse than most of the people who stay there. I mean i'd rather be outside its safer.

BB: What do you do for income?

Koba: I get SSI. I got it since I was 20 I think. I told them I was traumatized and heard voices and they believed me and gave it to me. In a way I was traumatized from what I saw and heard as a child and I do hear voices sometimes. I got mental illness in my family you know. I think the fact that people in my family were twisted helped more. Also I get food stamps but not a whole lot. It sucks.

JR: I used to have a bank account with about fifteen thousand dollars but I went through it in 3 years. i get GR from California and food stamps, also from California. I'm trying to get on SSI.

BB: Isn't that illegal to get GR from California while in Illinois

JR: Confidentially yeah but they don't care.

BB: Koba, what did you do in prison? What's your record?

Koba: Well, I went to prison when I was 24. Before that I had visited county jail on occasion, open container, loitering, stealing fighting but I ended up in prison for mugging someone in Seattle, I got a plea bargain, 5 years in Walla Walla and time off for good behavior. I spent 3 years there, kept my head down and being in prison really opened my mind to the world and made me more of a communist because the world system of capitalism is just like in Prison, everyone's locked up, being pushed around and they push back and you gotta either get with a group of other guys or be strong enough to look after yourself. I got with a group, I didn't like it because everyone segregated racially, you couldn't associate with inmates of another race. I got into a couple of fights here and there but did alright.

BB: Have you ever been in Cook county

Koba: A couple of times, it was heinous. worse than state pen. Most of the time I was in Marion county or LA county or some other place, I would never dream of otherwise. Cook county is insane. I did make a few friends even with one of the guards there who is also anti-racist and marxist like I am though he's not marxist like me.

BB: How did that happen?

Koba: They got a block called Wimps, weapons in my possession. In prison I had a shiv, cause the saying wanna live get a shiv came to my mind. Well I got caught and they put me there. And they call it wimps because really they want to get it into you you must be a wimp to need a weapon. Real men use their fists. And that's what I learned. I met the guard he told me about it and said if I were a real man I wouldn't need to worry about it so don't. He gave me references to some fight clubs and places for training. It was good. Since then I've really had no need for weapons unless I really really need to. Other than that I prefer my fists. I'm a master with my hands.

JR: Its really that bad?

koba: aw dude... You sleep with one eye opened there. When I was there an inmate got killed.

BB: When you were prison did you ever have someone try and rape you or did you ever do anything like that?

Koba: well no. I was looked after, I belonged to a group we kept an eye on each other but when you're there for a long time men there get really hard because they have no woman. You have to rely on something else and a lot of guys dress up like girls and give it up for food or cigarettes. You can't help it. They had a gang of gay inmates that almost looked like women. One time I did do it with one of them. I didn't like it but I needed to let off steam.

JR: Did you ever have a punk there bro? Like was there someone who looked like a hottie?

Koba: Yeah matter of fact there was. This punk bitch, I remember him clearly. He looked like a she the minute he came in. I coulda swore he was a girl. He was all feminine. I mean when I saw him I knew this guy wouldn't last unless someone looked after him. He was in for breaking into burglar alarms, he was a computer nerd and he was a nerd. This guy like had the word b**ch on his head the minute he arrived. At breakfast when everyone went to get chow, I went in, followed him, eyed him, everyone did. I made my move, my friend and I sat at the same table, said hi introduced ourselves were like, "Hey you know a lot of people here lift weights and stuff, we noticed you don't do that, how about we look after you. You could use some protection and we have a vacancy. Interested?" This guy was scared and it was so easy. He looked shaken and like he was gonna cry and he took up the offer. Eventually he joined our group as our punk. He gave it up for protection and it was easy. Turned out he was bisexual like my comrade here.

JR: Was he good looking?

Koba: I wouldn't know but when we gave him a make over it was like, he was I mean she was hot! It's like being free again!

JR: So he became a girl?

Koba: He was already a girl in a way. He was a real blow up doll. He was still there when I was let out and paroled.

JR: When you were in prison or jail do they still give you SSI?

Koba: If you don't tell them yeah, if they don't find out. When I got out of Walla Walla and went back to Seattle, the guy at the house I stayed at held on to my mail including all the stuff from Social security. They had no idea I was in prison. Kept depositing money in my bank account through direct deposit and I was thrilled. I had like almost twenty grand in my account.

BB: What happened to it?

Koba: I blew it all I mean almost all of it at the casino. Seattle has lots of indian casinos. I wasn't allowed while on parole but I didn't give a S**t. the rest I drank. I basically compensated for two to three years of sobriety.

JR: Didn't you have like Pruno in the prison?

Koba: Oh god hell no! It tastes like piss and vomit! I rarely drank that. Gross! Anyway it was hard to get. The guards always knew if it was being made and you could go to the hole for a long time. I was glad to enjoy whisky and beer

BB: What about other jail sentences

Koba: Here there, drinking in public, possessing a knife, stealing, vandalism, I never got caught for the serious stuff bro. The killings and arson. If they caught me I'd do federal time and I'd probably get the chair or life without parole. Probably end up in Colorado super duper max doing real hard time for life like those other guys.

JR: They'd kill us. For sure.

Koba: Yeah... not pretty too. So I think really that's it. I don't know if I want to go into this anymore because you know. I mean... The food court is getting full and I'm getting worried that the police if they saw this and heard more, they would really give us a hard time. If not us they'd go after ARA like crazy. There is so much I could tell you but there isn't enough time. Comrade, I think we've said enough.

JR: yeah I think we said too much.

BB: Can I at least get you to make a statement to the people who read this? What you want to see accomplished?

Koba: Yeah, basically we are fighting on behalf of the people of not just America but the whole world. We are fighting to liberate them and help them, were not out to kill them. We just want to kill those who are against us.

JR: I just want to say that people should wake up and stop listening to what the news and everyone is saying, stop listening to Fox to CNN the Democrats and Republicans, they're not for you they work for the profiters at wall street. We are the only ones who stand for you and you should join us.

Koba: Also, you shouldn't be thankful for what little you have. You have nothing to lose except your chains. There's a better world possible and the working masses need to unite and stop bickering about race religion and so on. Its just the matrix created by the capitalists to keep you down and enslave you. You will never be free unless you join us and bring about one world communism

JR: Yeah, the new World order is good for you! Don't listen to Alex Jones, the New World order is real freedom and utopia. And Alex, you your listening, F**k you and your viewers, we'll get you one day. You and your bosses are going down you lugoon! The workers are gonna take over the world and eventually you, the preppers, the gun owners they're all gonna be wiped out and all that they'll remember is some mentally ill fascists were hiding in the woods with all... they're causing trouble. We will be remembered as heroes and liberators you'll only be remembered for cowardice and stupidity and soon or years from now I promise, you'll die with your rifle in your cold dead hands. Its over Alex, the workers are uniting to destroy America and bring about the new world order. LONG LIVE THE NEW WORLD ORDER! LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION

Koba: Yeah what My buddy said. Anyway I just want to say were gonna win. That's all. Thank you.

FINAL THOUGHTS I gave the two young hooligans the money I said I'd give them even though they didn't want to finish. I did it because in my mind I worried that Koba and JR wanted to drink heavily after spilling their guts and I worried that they would rob and maybe kill someone if I didn't. I know it was wrong, most reading this will agree but in my state of mind at the time all I wanted was to get away. The boys left the mall and I sat there in food court pondering what I had heard. I cleaned up the mess they left as we all do for Marxist hooligans whatever reason. I then went to my hotel room and took the first plane out of Chicago.

I was relieved to be out of Chicago, a city run by evil government and inhabited by worse. A hub of communism in the mid-west polluting the once wholesome and godly heartland of America that is now as I am typing falling under the spell of government rule and socialism as all of America is gradually under Obama and the Democrats.

What am I to make of the events that transpired? There are no words to describe it. They are all laid out there but what can be said of this interview with two men who openly brag of killing and destroying innocent people?

I guess I can only lay out a few thoughts with the time I have. Koba no doubt was the big ideologue, he was the most experienced. He was also the hardest. He has been tainted and corrupted perhaps beyond hope by an abusive father and thanks to a church that is limp wristed and ungodly. Most communities in the mid-west where he grew up are decent bastions of good and love. I've been there and many who I know live there and can attest but there are portions of say Oklahoma, Nebraska and Kansas that resemble rural Maine and Vermont.

Koba is the kind of communist that is dangerous. He does not value life for in communism, a single life is irrelevant. These kinds cannot be turned and will serve their party bosses followed by their insatiable appetites for cruelty, drugs, alcohol or hedonistic pleasure. There is only one cure for these kind of people, a bullet. In Guatemala that's how elected president Effrain Rios Monte saw it. For decades Guatemala was terrorized by communist guerrillas many which had occupied villages on the fringes, killing all who they oppose and killing for no reason.

Monte saw one solution. Extermination. Villages under communist occupation were marked out for eradication. It was deemed criminal and in fact Monte almost faced war crimes charges like Pinochet did and escaped only because of age and senility. But there was no alternative. These villages were in the hands of the communists. The people were as bad as Koba and Jackrabbit. Those who were not were already dead and their children deported to Cuba to be raised in the squalor of Castro's dictatorship. Guatemala is almost free of communism thanks to Monte's determination.

Pinochet also faced this crisis. 5000 of the worst kinds of leftists were killed by Pinochet. These were not peaceful activists singing camp songs or wishing for peace and love, these were bloodthirsty, evil shining path wannabes who would kill millions if Chile had fallen into communist hands.

The Contras of Nicaragua, their lives and homes destroyed by the communist Sandinista dictatorship practiced brutality equal to that of the Sandinistas and even President Reagan raised objections to some of their practices but even so, the surviving members of the Recontra Frente will tell you it was necessary. I sat down with one years ago and he told me of how the communist Sandinista front was far worse than the previous dictatorship under Alonzo that they had overthrown. Their homes were destroyed, their friends and loved ones imprisoned or killed, their children taken away to live in communist orphanages or sent overseas to Russia or Cuba, yet they were the bad guys.

The media and our government, dominated by liberals with dangerous sympathies to socialist butchers sides against them. Pinochet faced criminal charges and imprisonment, the same court condemned America for supporting the contras all while praising butchers like Castro, Stalin, Mao, Ho Chi Minh, Kim Jun, and others.

They will never condemn the USSR or China but not hesitate to blame America for defending human life from those who hold no value to it. The never ending lists of outrageous and alleged atrocities committed by the Contras ranging from kidnapping, rape, burning civilian homes, torture and outright murder will never be laid at communists who practiced these indiscriminately in Nicaragua, Greece, the balkans, Hungary, Poland, the Baltic region or Southeast Asia and even here in our own shores.

It just proves how far we've come. It also proves that our media is biased in favor of the left in general and the butchers communism. So is our government and the Democrats. One look at Koba's words proves that in most occasions there is no other way but to fight fire with fire. Death for death. As Joseph Stalin, who also called himself Koba once said, death is the best solution to all problems and a million deaths is not a tragedy but a mere statistic.

There are others like Jackrabbit who may be turned to our side and turned back to love and reason. Jack Rabbit, how did he come to the conclusion that the solution to the worlds problems is to renounce the prosperity under his family and seek a murderous ideology as a solution is hard to say. I believe perhaps his parents just didn't have time to provide moral guidance.

In the case of the majority who joined evil left wing movements, the beatniks, the hippies, Occupy Wall street, the Communist party, Neo-Nazis, skinheads, Nation of Islam or other groups, they came from privileged and prosperous upbringings where they were simply given all they wanted and the parents were preoccupied with maintaining and enjoying this lifestyle rather than preoccupying themselves with raising their children to be moral and upright citizens. Their only moral compass came from television, pop-culture, what seems cool and peer pressure.

Religion is devoid and non-existent in many of their upbringings as it was with Jack Rabbit's. Either that or it was an corrupted and perverted as in the case of Koba. I said in a previous article that our grandparents are mostly to blame for why our parents were hippies rather than Benjamin Spock or Madelyn Murray O'hair. Nonetheless, Madelyn Murray O'hair, in ejecting God and his teachings from our school system and other attacks by the so called American Atheists are largely to blame for the hippie movement, Juvenile crime, Columbine High school, and the lack of morals in our youth. To their doorstep much blame must be laid.

Good news, their life isn't entirely devoid of religion, they go to church to eat and possibly hear the word of God, the bad news, nearly all of it comes from places like Barack Hussein Obama's church, Trinity Christian church and St Sabina. Reverend Wright and Reverend Otis along with Father Pfleger also must share the blame for corrupting these youths with radical liberation theology when they should be taught responsibility and most of all loving kindness.

What is even more disturbing is the proclamation made by ARA antifa, a group that violently opposes the Nazis or National Socialists, is that they will practice the same techniques and same things that their nemesis did. They have proclaimed that they will hunt down and kill veterans and most of their victims it seems are the weakest and most defenseless among them, those that are elderly and infirm and those who are homeless. It looks as though it is open season on vets and those who love America.

Equally disturbing is their equation of America as an evil country that is a burden on the world. At its doorstep, that it is disturbing. They even go as far to say that America is deserving of 9/11 for all of the unfounded crimes they allege. This is a typical Marxist tactic on its enemies. Its called projection. National Socialists and other leftist practice it against Israel as well as the US, but Marxists like the ARA are masters at this deception. As Michael Savage once jokingly put it, masters at masterfully manipulating with manipulation. But the communists don't consider it a joke.

I guess what I find also sickening is how they see the future in 100 years that America is remembered the way we remember other violent and evil empires, Rome, Babylon, the Aztecs, England during the 100 years war or during the 17th and 18th century, the Ottomans, The Third Reich, the USSR, Japan under the Showa emperor, and a host of others.

Before I talk about the future of America lets talk about the future of Koba and Jackrabbit and other radicals and what awaits them should their glorious revolution succeed. Back in 1975 when Communist North Vietnam marched in triumph over the south, a purge took place. All of the Viet Cong from the south and many from the north were murdered or sent to re-education camps which were nothing more than gulags. Most died the few that were exiled lived out their miserable existence in Australia and elsewhere.

In Germany under Hitler, the night of long knives took place. Ernst Rohm and many of the men who brought Hitler into power were executed. In Russia, Lenin and Stalin murdered the Menshevik party and members of the Bolsheviks. Ten years later, Stalin killed the rest. The same thing happened every other place communism took over. Why? Because the revolutionists who betrayed their country couldn't be trusted. They might turn on them. They had to go.

Back in 1972 Christian minister and cartoonist Jack T Chick, the man who wrote all those nice bible tracts BTW, he put out a tract called The Poor Revolutionist. The Tract went back into publication forty years later in light of Occupy Wall street and other radicals. The Tract tells the story of "Comrade Paul" and the glorious revolution that takes place. In the end he and his fellow revolutionaries are sentenced to death and executed.

This fate, either prison, death or exile are all that await revolutionists like Koba and Jack Rabbit. Whoever wins, the revolutionaries of Occupy, ARA and others are the losers. They always will be.

Now what of America in 100 years? If we remember the lessons from this interview and take them to heart, it wont need to be that way. In 100 Years America will hopefully still exist as the free nation it was meant to be. It will be known not remembered, known, as a strong bulwark against tyrants that may have crumbled a bit in the last century but remains strong and will continue to be so till the end of time.


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Well I know what you're thinking. This was nuts. I got an email from a retired Chicago detective who saw the preview video on youtube and told me the same thing and that these guys are dangerous and don't play around. Yes I could've been killed. Yes there was a small risk of that but I thought it was worth it. Many of my friends especially those who are homeless in major cities (Thanks to Obama and the Democrats BTW) take risks like this, I thought its only fair that I share in the risks.

If you're a veteran, if you live in Chicago or another leftwing area, GET OUT! They'll come after you.

1 posted on 09/01/2016 5:59:46 AM PDT by mainestategop
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Bump for later printing. Went crosseyed trying to read this on smart phone.


2 posted on 09/01/2016 6:11:40 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: mainestategop

ping


3 posted on 09/01/2016 6:17:35 AM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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My stomach doesn’t have the attention span to read stuff like that. Kinda like I don’t like to watch movies that make fun of retards.

Do these idiots understand how outnumbered, outgunned and outsmarted they are? They’re not going to do shit.


4 posted on 09/01/2016 6:33:38 AM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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Hunt them down. Kill them all.


5 posted on 09/01/2016 7:09:41 AM PDT by Noumenon (We owe them nothing: not respect, not loyalty, not obedience.)
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To: PLMerite

You’re right. But Still, they can cause a lot of damage.


6 posted on 09/01/2016 9:29:50 AM PDT by mainestategop (DonÂ’t Let Freedom Slip Away! After America , There is No Place to Go)
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**in the voice of the guy in the old commercial**

I can’t believe I read the whole thing!

While I certainly don’t fear jagoffs like these two (living in a state that respects the 2A), it’s the evil that is driving them and harnessing their ignorance and violence that worries me. And the fact that that evil also controls most of the public institutions in this country.


7 posted on 09/01/2016 9:33:02 AM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (No one in the field is voting for Frail, Pale and Belongs in Jail.)
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To: mainestategop

I need to take a mental shower after reading that filthy bilge. I am literally sick to my stomach. Those people are insane and at least one openly admitted it. There is no cure for those people, they are too far gone.


8 posted on 09/01/2016 9:58:55 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves. Socialism is governmental theft!)
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Exactly. José Efraín Ríos Montt, Ngo Dinh Diem, Francisco Franco and Augusto Pinochet had every right to kill them and do what had to be done. A friend of mine sent me a few documentaries about the Contras BTW and I once met a man who claimed to have been one. Whether or not they did commit "atrocities" isn't that irrelevant. They had to do what needs to be done.

Also of note, a friend of mine read some sci-fi books by John Ringo mainly the ones about Earth being invaded by Crocodile Centaurs that wanted to eat the human race.

In one of the books they resurrected the dead Nazi SS soldiers and even allowed them to recruit young people to fight them since Germany no longer had a military and is a joke and even exaggerates how liberal they are (They don't want to fight the alien invaders and want to be peaceful with them).

One of the characters, a far left politician casts the tie breaking vote to resurrected the dead Nazis on condition that they and all the boys they with them who are conscripted are murdered.

Nazis, Communists, Islamists ETC most of them the only cure is a f**king bullet! lets stop being limp and fidgety, lets stop with the political correctness, death is the only cure for these filthy evil creatures! Doesn't matter if they're human beings, doesn't matter if they're young, if their your relatives, mother, sister, father, brother, SHOOT TO KILL!! BECAUSE THEY'LL DO IT TO YOU!!

9 posted on 09/01/2016 10:25:17 AM PDT by mainestategop (DonÂ’t Let Freedom Slip Away! After America , There is No Place to Go)
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Interesting, but WAY too long.

Here is a connection in NJ. The people who are trying to get Kellyann Conway (Trump campaign chairman) removed as Grand Marshall in Christmas Parade in Hammontown, NJ were the South Jersey ANTIFA.

those attacking Kellyann Conway”

South Jersey Antifa

Trump campaign manager Conway grand marshal of Christmas parade in NJ http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/12/11/trump-campaign-manager-conway-leading-christmas-parade-in-new-jersey.html

Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway leads N.J. Christmas parade http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/kellyanne-conway-leads-n-christmas-parade-article-1.2906883

MSM has covered this but failed to connect them with the “international” of their local chapter. It is criminal that the MSM would write articles about their demonstration without explaining what their “anti-fascist” organization really is.

Antifa (defined) http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=antifa

Short for (militant) anti-fascists.

“Middle-class champagne socialist/communist/anarchist white boys who don’t like nationalists or fascists. They consider themselves to be rebelling against the establishment, whilst upholding all of its ultra-politically correct views.”

“Antifa only dislike racism when its carried out by whites, and do not have the bottle to stand up against anti-white racism; leading to many people on the right to refer to them as ‘traitors’. I’d rather just call them morons.”

“Most are teenagers and university students who grow out of the fad when they start paying taxes.”


10 posted on 12/11/2016 1:06:38 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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These are some evil dudes.

It is noteworthy they exist primarily on taxpayer money (EBT, SSI, food stamps, etc.) and charity but have no job other than a wandering life of violence which they readily excuse because it is always somebody else's fault they murder, loot, and lust for even more.

These are psychopaths, on the prowl for more victims - and especially helpless ones. They believe only lies - the ones other people tell them and the ones they tell themselves.

Dangerous people, these Antifas.

11 posted on 04/25/2017 5:13:12 PM PDT by Gritty (Islam is king on a field of corpses - Mark Steyn)
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Just when you thought it was enough, we got another one!

My Friend Kyle Weissman interviewed another Antifa's finest. This one a communist and a Muslim convert who was indoctrinated in School! Here is a picture of our Homegrown Muslim Kyle Drew up!


12 posted on 05/02/2017 11:00:11 AM PDT by mainestategop (DonÂ’t Let Freedom Slip Away! After America , There is No Place to Go)
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Antifa thugs just like these two certifiable nutjobs are in every major city in America now. Their numbers are growing and they are arming themselves.


13 posted on 05/02/2017 12:53:34 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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