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Top Experts Dismiss Reported Claim That Russia Influenced the US Election
Paulcraigroberts.org ^ | December 12, 2016 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 12/12/2016 11:22:40 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Presstitutes such as the New York Times and Reuters continue to hype an alleged CIA finding that Russians hacked Hillary’s emails and used them to influence the election outcome.

As a number of experts have noted, there is no evidence whatsoever for the claim, which is in the category of fake news.

Julian Assange at Wikileaks, which released the leaked, not hacked, documents, denies that the Russians were involved.

William Binney, former top NSA official says that if Russia did it, NSA would have clear evidence. Binney said that “they have failed to prove anything, which suggests they don’t have proof and just want to war-monger the public into a second cold war with the Russians.

After all, there’s lots and lots of money in that for the military-industrial-intelligence-governmental complex of incestuous relationships.”


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Reference
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2016electionhack; 2016trumprussiahack; cia; electoralcollege; fakenews; hacking; medialies; pelosidaughter; russia; stealelection; trump
Dr. Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He was columnist for Business Week, Scripps Howard News Service, and Creators Syndicate. He has had many university appointments.
1 posted on 12/12/2016 11:22:40 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

They sure did. And they were assisted by little green guys from the new planet past Pluto. For years the beings of Kesler have been trying to be recognized by the US and they were denied when the libs cut funding for NASA.

It has been said that John Kerry has been in secret negoiatiations with the representatives from Kepler for over a year and has reached no negociations because Sec Kerry is an idiot because he missed when trying to shoot the enemy and shot himself in the leg for his purple heart. They have been watching us, and laughing, for eight years.

Hey!! It carries as much weight as their story.

red


2 posted on 12/12/2016 11:35:21 AM PST by Redwood71 (ualified on this.)
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To: All

The obsession w/ unseating Trump is mind-boggling. The salient points are being ignored.

<><>Russia is attacking us? Since when is the DNC and Hillary’s campaign manager “us”?

<><> Some at the CIA and NSA highlight that the release of Democratic but not Republican “dirt” proves that Vladimir Putin’s factotums set out to boost Trump.

REALITY CHECK The hacking of the DNC exposed the slime and dirt of that organization and it’s control by the equallly slimy Clintons. DNC chair Debbie forced out...exposed as a tool of the Clintons...is proof positive.

The RNC presented no such threat b/c Trump is an outsider....the RNC threw in the towel late in the game b/c he won the primary.

CONCLUSION The voters decide US elections-—not hackers and leakers — that Debbie Wasserman Schultz and John Podesta had nasty things to say about Bernie Sanders did not decide the election ao much as it indicted the Democrat apparat.

That’s the thing they’re fuming about-—being outed.

The shamed Dems take on a Sisyphian task to clear their name——its not going to work.


3 posted on 12/12/2016 11:37:17 AM PST by Liz
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

What a sillyassed bunch of clowns. The only conclusions I’m seeing is that the Democrats concluded that the CIA concluded. I’m not seeing any CIA conclusions.


4 posted on 12/12/2016 11:39:40 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Liz

Becoming more obvious that NSA and Military Intelligence is at war with CIA.


5 posted on 12/12/2016 11:41:18 AM PST by Crash Fistfight
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Easy enough to out it to bed - tell them to put up or shut up - and telling lies to the Congress and the people about something as potentially earth-shattering as our election system (horrifying if one listened to Hillary) they will be charged with treason.


6 posted on 12/12/2016 11:41:22 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Why is Obama so worked up about the hacking of Podesta’s Google account.
What about the OPM hacking? What about Hillary’s State Dept email hack? What about any number of security breaches during his tenure?
But he’s managed to get the press and Republican congress worked into a lather over private secular emails??
Are we that stupid?


7 posted on 12/12/2016 11:53:31 AM PST by weston (SO HERE'S THE STORY: As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: Crash Fistfight

Yes, that appears to be the case.


8 posted on 12/12/2016 12:05:53 PM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ('45 will be the best ever.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

The Russian angle is only a speculation pushed by Obama’s political appointees within the government. It is not a fact.

What is a fact is that the Saudis illegally contributed 20 percent of Hillary’s campaign.

This is what Trump’s supporters should be countering with.


9 posted on 12/12/2016 12:15:20 PM PST by chopperman
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To: Liz

It’s all about money and power for the new Obama organizing campaigns. Obama will become a multi billionaire running his OFA agitation foundation. All those “charities” are going to have huge money pots and millions of agitated foot soldiers.


10 posted on 12/12/2016 12:42:37 PM PST by Organic Panic (Rich White Man Evicts Poor Black Family From Public Housing - MSNBCPBSCNNNYTABC)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Since the 1990s and the CIA manufactured WMD intelligence against Iraq to justify Clinton ordering bombing during Impeachment to the false manufactured intelligence that the 09-11-2012 attack in Benghazi was in reaction to an anti Muslim You Tube video, the CIA has demonstrated it is political corrupt as well as criminally incompetent.

Time to drain the swamp and close the CIA down. It legitimate functions can be taken over by other intelligence groups. CIA no longer, if it ever, serves any legitimate function


11 posted on 12/12/2016 12:44:59 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Trump discriminates against non-successful people.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

two weeks before the election when the liberal world believed hillary was going to crush trump like a bug, obama was ridiculing Trump and saying the election wasn’t rigged and all was perfectly above board, etc.; two weeks after Trump winning the election, obama is saying the election was rigged - by the russians.


12 posted on 12/12/2016 12:46:37 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Organic Panic
All that.....and this.......

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Then-Secy Hillary arrives in Saudi Arabia........the pay-to-play suckup begins.

Saudi Arabia Funded 20% Of Hillary's Presidential Campaign, Saudi Crown Prince Claims
Zerohedge ^ | Jun 14, 2016 3:57 AM | Tyler Durden / FR Posted by xzins (NOTE: It is illegal in the United States for foreign countries to try to influence the outcome of elections by funding candidates. That appears not to have stopped the Saudis, however.)

“Saudi Arabia provided with full enthusiasm 20 percent of the cost of Hillary Clinton’s election"......the report quoted Saudi Prince Mohammed as having said. According to the US Federal Election commission, over the past two years Clinton has raised a little more than $211.8 million. 20% of this sum is $42.4 million.

The report was published (and then mysteriously deleted) on the eve of Prince Mohammed making an official visit to the United States. The Saudi Press Agency reported on Monday that the senior royal was due to fly to Washington where he will meet officials to discuss US-Saudi ties.

SNIP

Links between Saudi Arabia and the Clinton family, including with Hillary’s campaign, are well reported. In 2008, it was revealed that the Gulf kingdom had donated between $10m and $25m to the Clinton Foundation, a charity set up by Hillary’s husband and former US President Bill Clinton.

Last year the Centre for Studies and Media Affairs at the Saudi Royal Court paid public relations firm the Podesta Group $200,000 for a month-long project to provide “public relations services”. The Podesta Group was founded in 1988 by brothers John and Tony Podesta. John Podesta is the chair of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign.

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POINTS TO PONDER Obama's cut of the Saudi monies must have been substantial.
B/c Pres Obama and Secy Hillary Clinton approved a record $1.4 billion in arms sales to Saudi Arabia.

13 posted on 12/12/2016 1:09:27 PM PST by Liz
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
No one's asking "What's the Russian's motive?"

Hillary's already known for her corruption, underhanded behavior, and her tendency to do whatever's expedient regardless of legality. In spy circles, she'd be a useful tool in Putin's toolbox. Her party's platform is a much better match to Communist goals than Trump's. So why destroy her?

I posted this earlier:

IF the Russians had hacked Hillary's and the DNC's servers, gaining possession of lots of incriminating e-mails, wouldn't they WANT her to win?
I mean, think it out, if she loses the election, all that valuable dirt becomes useless! She has no power to subvert now!
The smart thing to do would be to help her get elected, then blackmail her with those e-mails. It would be like having their own agent in the oval office. As it stands, she's out of office and can't influence anything.
Furthermore, with a change in leadership, all the little fish (Podesta et al) are out too. Stealing all those e-mails becomes a waste of time.
Does that make sense?

14 posted on 12/12/2016 1:15:56 PM PST by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: ZOOKER

Yes, exactly, Russia would prefer Hillary over Trump. Especially since she sold them 20% of our uranium. She’s their gal.


15 posted on 12/12/2016 3:12:06 PM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies ('45 will be the best ever.)
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