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1 posted on 01/01/2017 12:13:10 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists

I wonder if the author knows he is projecting.

2 posted on 01/01/2017 12:33:07 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (dead parakeet + lost fishing gear = freep all day)
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The article seems to blame the alt right and fake news.


3 posted on 01/01/2017 12:33:34 AM PST by Pinkbell (http://dtforpres.blogspot.com/2016/11/cnn-lies-multiple-times-to-help-hillary.html)
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one thing that helped trump was the bragging on line that the consultants did every time they tried to set up a situation to discredit trump. if these idiots had not been bragging about it and social media had not been there to spread the word about this bragging I think trump would not of gotten past the gatekeepers,


4 posted on 01/01/2017 12:36:26 AM PST by PCPOET7
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I think we beat the US “news media” at their own game and it probably makes a lot of people nervous to not have a monopoly on propaganda.


5 posted on 01/01/2017 12:40:42 AM PST by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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My God but these people are stiff-necked.

The “reason” ostensibly “fake news” resonated with so many voters is because we kept seeing the “real news” disproven with our own eyes!

Trump was repeatedly accused of admitting to sexual assault citing a quote that clearly did not admit such a thing.

James O’Keefe was called “discredited” and “a convicted felon” when anyone with an internet connection, and the will to use it, could quickly discover both charges are false.

Hillary Clinton was lauded for her great accomplishments when clearly the deafening silence in this regard show her only accomplishment was achieving various powerful positions.

Trump supporters were continually suspected of criminal mischief while Clinton supporters continually had their criminal mischief redefined as “protest.”

Yes, I understand the writer of this nonsense works for The Guardian, and will probably never read my reply to his attempt at trading “cause” for “effect,” but I have to believe there are others much closer to him than I who feel as I do, so I have to believe that the slimy gob he finds in his drink one day will be a loogie.


9 posted on 01/01/2017 12:48:30 AM PST by papertyger (The semantics define how we think.)
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The real problem is that what the MSM calls “fake news” is actually the truth and what the MSM spews is propaganda.

This has been going on since the invention of newspapers, but the ordinary man had no way to see it, understand the reality, or fight back.

As the internet has become more important and relevant to ordinary life, the gatekeeper function of the MSM has become much less powerful.

Even 4 years ago Trump would have been a fringe candidate and would have been ignored. The MSMN was all-in on the administration lie that we were “recovering” from the great recession and all the economically devastated people across the country would not have know that there were a hundred million kindred souls just like them. The idea that a candidate actually knew about their problems and wanted to solve them would not have entered their consciousness .

The MSM is in a truly horrible position. DJT knows how to reach the American people without their filter. They can either get on board or be run over. PC is going overboard and they are going to have to report the truth or lose out to someone who will report it.


11 posted on 01/01/2017 12:52:35 AM PST by CurlyDave
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My 2 cents: This is only part of the story.

A major part of the story is that the Bernie supporters shared outrages that happened around the country with one another and worked themselves into a frenzy of hatred toward Hillary and the DNC.

That frenzy was totally justified and as the Wikileaks information came out they found that their worst fears were not nearly extreme enough to match reality.

For the strangest of reasons I was asked to join a Sanders group on Facebook. I never volunteered I was a Trump supporter, but I did say what I thought of Hillary and was accepted by them. I learned a lot about how pissed off those folks were with Hillary. I had one person tell me he would vote for Trump any day over Hillary, even though he didn't like Trump. He said at least he wouldn't be corrupt.

In short I think that the Internet connected and educated lots of different groups that would have had limited information about what was really happening if they had to rely upon the corrupt traditional media.

13 posted on 01/01/2017 1:02:00 AM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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The reason why patriots were won the social media battle with the leftists was because we had to be better because we did not have other options like the corporate media propaganda megaphone. This author is a shallow idiot.
14 posted on 01/01/2017 1:04:17 AM PST by WMarshal ( Schadenfreude, it feels so good!)
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There are repeated calls here on FR to never use Twitter and Facebook etc.

If Trump supporters had listened to these people who clearly have no idea what is going on Hillary would be measuring the Oval office right now for new drapes.

Future Campaigns will be won or lost on Social Media. Just posting on Free Republic will be preaching to the choir. You got to get out there where the voters are and they are on Twitter (for now) and Facebook (not going away any time soon.

16 posted on 01/01/2017 1:09:23 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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It is just amazing when you think of all the hurdles the establishment placed in front of Trump. You could write a book just describing and listing all of them. The establishment assumed no mere human could make it through that gauntlet. Certainly a Joe Plumber or even a Sarah Palin stood no chance to make it all the way through. Even the left needs to give credit to Trump for that. And addressing the authors specific topic, there were numerous hurdles placed in front of the Trump Army. We had censorship and intimidation on Facebook. Numerous disruptors here. Physical and verbal assaults at political rallies. And on and on. Clearly we all participated in the upset of the millennium.


18 posted on 01/01/2017 1:29:18 AM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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1) first is that much of Trump’s campaign rhetoric would never have got past the editorial “gatekeepers” of an earlier era >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

But it was the left who changed that rhetoric, they were defeated with their own tools.

2)It would have been difficult, if not impossible, for them to hook up with millions of like-minded souls >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Nope. Patriots and Americans have hooked up to defeat the enemies of freedom repeatedly. This is a point that Brits like John Naughton have not understood since 1776. The People are not Sheeple like they are in the UK, nor are they Sheeple as Obama assumed as an 8 year accomplishment.

For the most part America ignored their traduced media and their push polls, which Naughton falsely insists connected them.In short, America has an indelible culture of freedom and liberty.It was on full display during the election campaign, yet the Naughtons of the left centric press missed it. Why? Because they are not a part of that culture of freedom.


19 posted on 01/01/2017 2:01:01 AM PST by Candor7 ( Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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Except that this time the media DID tell us what Trump was saying.

They would go into meltdown hysterics over his latest pronouncements, giving him TONS of free publicity that he could not have gotten otherwise.

If the media didn't have conniption fits every time Trump opened his mouth but had rather silenced him like they usually do with people they disapprove of, we wouldn't have known the half of what he was about.

THEY did it themselves and to themselves.

24 posted on 01/01/2017 2:41:17 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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and the Federal Communications Commission with its “fairness doctrine” (which required holders of broadcast licences to “present controversial issues of public importance and to do so in a manner that was, in the Commission’s view, honest, equitable and balanced”).

And how did that actually work out in the 40s-80s?

And in the absence of the "fairness doctrine", what has become of the political perspective presented by broadcast and cable networks (in news presentation, chat shows, and "entertainment"/infotainment)?

Just more whining about Rush Limbaugh/talk radio, if you ask me. "But they only offer one side, where is equal time???"

25 posted on 01/01/2017 3:15:09 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The COM-Left is saddened by the death of the Communist dictator Fidel Castro. No surprise there.)
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If it wasn’t for social media, we never would have know the difference in crowds that Trump was attracting to his rallies vs. Hillary’s rallies. The network news and major newspapers tried to hide that difference to the very end.


27 posted on 01/01/2017 3:21:40 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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[How Trump’s savvy army won the internet war]

The reason why TRUMP’S savvy army won the internet war is because we DEPLORABLES are savvy.

Savvy: Shrewd, well-informed and perceptive.


32 posted on 01/01/2017 4:21:34 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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Well we have gone from deplorable to savvy. Things are certainly looking brighter in this New Year.

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35 posted on 01/01/2017 4:48:48 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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In my opinion, the big factor was the revelation by WikiLeaks in late July 2016 of the direct link between mainstream media (MSM) and both the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign. That right there turned the MSM into essentially the Soviet Union-era Pravda, setting back the entire profession of journalism for decades.
36 posted on 01/01/2017 4:49:09 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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What a great article. Thank you for the post.


37 posted on 01/01/2017 4:50:11 AM PST by Bogie
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The World’s Smartest Woman got her butt kicked by a reality TV star!

Habahahahahahaha!


38 posted on 01/01/2017 4:52:24 AM PST by Cowboy Bob
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IN short, the old media monopoly of propaganda for the left has been wounded. They can no longer sell their lies without challenge.


39 posted on 01/01/2017 4:56:22 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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