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Russia is modernizing military to updated 1980s technology but could drop to level of Pakistan
Next Big Future ^ | Jan 17, 2017 | Brian Wang

Posted on 01/22/2017 8:56:47 AM PST by Vince Ferrer

Russia's 2011–20 State Armaments Program’s major benchmarks emphasised the percentage of modern equipment in service: 30% of total by 2015 and 70% by 2020. Their success in that pursuit has been mixed, and exact numbers are hard to find, but the share of modern equipment in service has clearly been increasing.

Russia’s Deputy Defense Minister said in April 2016 that the military had received some 1,200 ‘new and modernized aircraft’ since 2013—250 new planes, 300 new helicopters and 700 modernised aircraft. Essentially all the new fixed-wing combat aircraft are modern derivatives of 1980s Soviet-era aircraft: the Su-27 ‘Flanker’ (Su-30; Su-35 and Su-33), Su-25 ‘Frogfoot’, MiG-29 ‘Fulcrum’ (including the forthcoming MiG-35) and the MiG-31 ‘Foxhound’. These ‘4th generation’ airframes outfitted with modern, digital avionics and sensors are commonly referred to as 4.5 generation fighters, and lack the intrinsic design features of 5th generation aircraft like the F-35.

Russia's 5th generation fighter, the PAK-FA, have been continually delayed due to high costs and intermittent support from development partner, India. Just eight prototypes of the vaunted aircraft exist today, and the latest plans expect to see just 12 production aircraft acquired by 2020

It is a practical and cost-effective plan. The US Navy began transitioning from the 80s-era F/A-18 Hornet to the modern Super Hornet in the early 2000s. Those 4.5 generation fighters are, by all accounts, still very capable and require less development than brand new airframes would. And given that both of the US military’s 5th generation fighter programs have suffered significant setback.

Factors Going Against Russia

* Aging Population demographic and population will decline by 15-20% by 2050 * Oil and gas dependent and oil and gas could see long term bear market and lower relevance with substantial amounts of solar and battery deployment * Rise of Asia and other countries could see Russia drop to third tier power category

Russia's economy has been highly dependent upon oil and gas. In 2012 oil, gas and petroleum products accounted for over 70% of total exports. In 2001, oil and gas generated some 30 percent of russia's federal budget revenues. In 2015, the figure reached 44 percent. The dependence varies because of oil prices and not from any successful diversification of the economy.

Solar and wind energy are increasing and electric cars and ridesharing are increasing. These technologies will reduce the demand for oil and gas and seem likely to keep oil and gas prices relatively low and blunt any price spikes.

Russia produces about the same amount of oil and Saudi Arabia. Russia currently has about 30 times the amount of nuclear weapons as Pakistan. On a PPP GDP basis Russia has an economy equal to Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Poland combined.

Russia's population is flat to about 2030 and then will likely decline by about 15-20% by 2050.

Russia could drop out of the top 10 world economies to around 20th.

China is increasingly becoming independent of Russia for military technology. India will likely also become less dependent over time.

If oil and gas prices were to remain low and Russia still had not developed other industries, it would not be unreasonable to expect Russia's economy to go from less than half of the UK on a nominal basis to one quarter or one eighth in 2050. Russia could drop down to around Pakistan's world power level. A poor economy with a lot of nuclear weapons.


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: russia

1 posted on 01/22/2017 8:56:47 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

Don’t believe everything you read.


2 posted on 01/22/2017 9:01:50 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Vince Ferrer

They can fix their population problem like Germany did...just bring in a ton of migrant muslims. What could possibly go wrong?


3 posted on 01/22/2017 9:08:23 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Vince Ferrer

If this is true, why would we need an enormous military build up? But A SU-27 vs an F-35? I’m not convinced. An F-16 beats it easily.
The 27 beats it in every aspect of the flight envelope.

The 35 is claimed to be a worldbeater because it can network with other planes and supposedly have stealth. But networks can be attacked, and it is nothing stealthy on the order of the F-117. It is less observable than a conventional platform.

The heavily promoted 35 cannot outrun, out turn, out accelerate, or out gun a Suhkoi. That’s just a fact. It has one shot only, and that is not to be seen and for networking to work well.

But mostly, what is the point of the article? Are we ok militarily and need not build more? Is it that Russia is weak so we should throw a small war?


4 posted on 01/22/2017 9:25:44 AM PST by DesertRhino
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To: Sacajaweau

They can fly the wings off their AC. I doubt we could sustain the same level of sorties they flew in Syria for 3 months. They ran out of targets, not available aircraft.

They also know how to build integrated air defense systems. Nobody downplays the S3-& 400s.

They also modernized their strategic nuclear systems.


5 posted on 01/22/2017 9:42:59 AM PST by zek157
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To: DesertRhino
But mostly, what is the point of the article? Are we ok militarily and need not build more? Is it that Russia is weak so we should throw a small war?

Next Big Future is a website that focuses on future trends and technologies that will have a big impact, such as energy, medicine, computing, etc. They are not very political, but they do follow technology trends in other countries, especially China, and military technologies.

6 posted on 01/22/2017 9:48:07 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: DesertRhino

Good post.

I admit the F-35 offers significant advantgages in battle-space awareness. A pleasant suprise to find that not all the development money was wasted.

But I think the F35 could have done that while still being able to outfly older fighters. Choose a role and stick with it.


7 posted on 01/22/2017 9:50:52 AM PST by agere_contra (I will be glad and rejoice in your love, for You saw my affliction and knew the anguish of my soul.)
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