Skip to comments.Mom: I never questioned transgenderism… until I met a man in the Disneyland bathroom
Posted on 03/19/2017 5:06:43 PM PDT by Impala64ssa
Leftists smugly ask what they perceive to be THE gotcha question about trannies in restrooms: So, are we going to have genital police? To those smugsters, I ask, How will you determine whether the burly, bearded, bulging-biceped person in the womens restroom or locker room is a member of the trans cult or a predator pretending to be a member of the trans cult?
Please read this short blog post from liberal California mom Kristen Quintrall whose eyes were (partially) opened by an experience in the womens restroom at Disneyland:
I didnt know if I was going to write this blog or not. A part of me was scared itd be shared as some transgender hot piece about yet another homophobic mom lashing out at Disney and then Id have to deal with the wrath of the internet telling me to kill myself. So let me be clear. This isnt that story. This is a story about a biological man in the womens restroom.
Ive lived in Los Angeles for over a decade and have seen my fair share of transgender/gender fluid people. They in no way offend me. Id consider myself pretty progressive and tolerant of most things .But how transgender people feel, how they choose to dress or any surgeries they get, dont infringe on any parts of my life, so I support their decision to live as they see fit. Ive also seen my fair share of transgender women in the womens restroom before. Not ALL the time. But over the past few years, Id say 4-5 that I noticed. Men who were in some stage of transition and making every attempt to be a woman from mascara to heels. Transgenders who certainly felt comfortable in the womens room and probably frightened to go into the mens. At these times, I smiled I peed and life went on. But 2 weeks ago so mething very different happened.
I was at Disneyland with my son, my friend and her son. We were over in California Adventure in the food court area. Wed just finished eating and decided to pee before we headed out to The Little Mermaid. I went to the bathroom while she watched our boys in their strollers, and then I did the same .
I was off to the side waiting with the two boys, when I noticed a man walk into the restroom. My first thought was Oh sh*t, hes walked in the wrong restroom by mistake. lol He took a few more steps, at which point he wouldve definitely noticed all the women lined up and still kept walking. My next thought was, Maybe hes looking for his wife or child and theyve been in here a while. But he didnt call out any names or look around. He just stood off to the side and leaned up against the wall. At this point Im like, [ ] Ok there is definitely a very manly hispanic man in a Lakers jersey who just walked in here. Am I the only one seeing this? I surveyed the room and saw roughly 12 women, children in tow staring at him with the exact same look on their faces. Everyone was visibly uncomfortable. We were all trading looks and motioning our eyes over to him like what is he doing in here? Yet every single one of us was silent. And this is the reason I wrote this blog.
If this had been 5 years ago, you bet youre a*s every woman in there wouldve been like, Ummm what are you doing in here?, but in 2017? the mood has shifted. We had been culturally bullied into silenced. Women were mid-changing their babys diapers on the changing tables and I could see them shifting to block his view. But they remained silent. I stayed silent. We all did. Every woman who exited a stall and immediately zeroed right in on him said nothing. And why? B/c I and Im sure all the others were scared of that what if. What if I say something and he says he identifies as a woman and then I come off as the intolerant a*shole .? So we all stood there, shifting in our uncomfortableness trading looks. I saw two women leave the line with their children. Still nothing was said. An older lady said to me out loud, What is he doing in here? Im ashamed to admit I silently shrugged and mouthed, I dont know. She immediately walked out from a bathroom she had every right to use without fear.
So there lingered this unspoken doubt everyone had .that .00001% chance this wasnt a man. Let me be clear. This was totally a man. If this wasnt a man, this was a woman who had fully transitioned via surgery and hormones into a man and had also gotten an adams apple implant, chest hair and size 9-10 shoes .and at that point, what are you doing in the womens restroom?
And let me be clear, my problem wasnt JUST that there was a man in the restroom. Its that he wasnt even peeing, washing his hands or doing anything else that youd do in a restroom. He was just standing off to the side looking smug untouchable doing absolutely nothing. He had to of noticed that every woman in the long line was staring at him. He didnt care. He then did a lap around the restroom walking by all the stalls. You know, the stalls that have 1 inch gaps by all the doors hinges so you can most definitely see everyone with their pants around their ankles ..
So here I am writing this blog, because honestly I need answers. We cant leave this situation ambiguous any more. The gender debate needs to be addressed .and quickly. There have to be guidelines. It cant just be a feeling. Im sorry. I wish it could, but it cant. Im fine going by if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck its a duck. But this notion that were shamed into silence b/c we might offend someone, has gone too far.
There was a man in the bathroom. Not transgender. There was a man who felt entitled to be in the woman restroom, because he knew no one would say anything. There were 20-25 people by the time I left, who were scared and uncomfortable by his ominous presence. And the only thing stopping us, was our fear of political correctness and that the media has told us we dont know what gender is anymore. I never want to be in the position again. Im not asking for permission to tell transgender people to get out my bathroom. I need to know its ok to tell a man, who looks like a man, to get [ ] out. Gender just cant be a feeling. There has to be science to it. DNA, genitals, amount of Sephora make up on your face, pick your poison, but as a very progressive woman Im sorry it cant just be a feeling when theres but a mere suggestion of a door with a peep hole separating your eyes from my vagina or my childrens genitals.
I commend Quintrall for her courage and partial insight, but she doesnt see the intellectual and moral incoherence that yet animate her new position.
She says this man wasnt transgender. He was a biological male. She says there has to be science to it. Well, science tells us that the sex of persons can never change. Men who identify as trans remain always biological males. So, the man who through castration and cross-sex hormone-doping looks like a woman and talks like a woman remains forever a man. And women should be no more comfortable with the frock-wearing, Sephora-painted man sashaying past women doing their business in stalls than they would be if a construction worker in Carhartts lumbered past the stall door.
Objective sex either matters in private spaces or doesnt matter. And if it doesnt matterif biological sex has no intrinsic meaningwe should eradicate all single-sex contexts everywhere. That would include restrooms, dressing rooms, locker rooms, showers, saunas, steam rooms, and semi-private hospital rooms.
Quintrall suggests that if this man-appearing person were actually a fully-transitioned transman (i.e., a woman), she should be using the mens restroom. Wrong. Women cannot become men, and no womennot even women in disguisebelong in mens restrooms.
And this brings us to the thorny problem of where these confused people should go to do their private business. Not to be unkind, but thats a problem of their own creation. With regard to restrooms, most places of public accommodation have single-occupancy family restrooms that fully-disguised men and women can use. With regard to locker rooms, theyre out of luck. They should change and shower at home.
If people would bother to read more deeply on this critical cultural issuethat is, the meaning of sexual differentiationthey would learn that sexual anarchists seek to obliterate any and all public recognition of and respect for sexual differentiation.
The ignorant among us do not yet know that the gender eradication movement believes that identifying as the opposite sex requires nothing more than a verbal assertion. No diagnosis, no cross-dressing, no cross-sex hormone-doping, no surgery needed. Dont misunderstand me. None of those can transmute men into women or vice versa. Unfortunately, I hear even from some purported conservatives that theyre fine with men who wish they were women using womens restrooms as long as theyve been castrated. But such a statement implies that the only issue with trannies in private spaces is the risk of physical predation in the form of peeping or assault. Its not.
The central issue is the meaning of objective, immutable biological sex.
(This article was 0riginally published on the Illionois Family Institute website and is re-published with permission.)
Saw something disturbing at the San Francisco (Westfield) Shopping Center (5th & Market).
The first-floor (concourse) level restrooms used to be separate doors, men and women.
Now (saw this last week) the whole area is open, there is NO door, just a “men’s side” and a “women’s side” and a common sink area separating the two.
I was shopping at an upscale department store a few years ago and there was a MAN helping women in the dressing rooms, sashaying in and out, very gay. IN the dressing room stalls area. i told the clerk, “I don’t know if you are taking votes, but I think that’s aberrant and I won’t shop here if that is the policy.” Others must have said that as well - I never saw him again.
I didn’t read this very long article as this woman had her first dealing with ‘cognitive dissonance’ as she seeks to reassure herself she IS tolerant and is NOT bothered by men dressing as women. She’ll have another round when she votes Republican. And another as she finds herself following CPAC. Reality is just very much more real than theory.
I’ve seen “pretend women” at the cosmetic counter, never near the dressing rooms.
Obviously when they “just wanted to come out of the closet”, what they really wanted was to get in mine.
“Ok there is definitely a very manly hispanic man in a Lakers jersey who just walked in here. [...] We had been culturally bullied into silence”
A conservative is a liberal who’s been mugged by reality.
Yuck! The thought police has won.
Just like islam, there sick copulators need to die.
The scene you just described makes me wonder what is the end result these people want? What does that look like?
Not everyone will be as compliant and inhibited as these women seemed to be. There will be confrontations, and for what, exactly? Why the eagerness to disturb and confuse the majority of population? Why does ‘someone’ want to break civilized society down to emotionless robotic behavior?
I have to wonder what she and the other women would have done if the man had begun masterbating.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
This is the ultimate fear, if there’s no objective definition of “woman”, then any man who claims to feel themselves to be a woman has a right to access the woman’s rest room. And there ya’ go, right there at Disneyland.
re: Im fine going by if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck its a duck.
Wrong vowel in duck.
Or to assault someone. From the uber-PC narrative it sounded an awful lot like he was attempting to intimidate (very successfully I might add) so they lucked out - this time.
I predict more of this to come, and violent encounters as a consequence. And EVERY bit of it preventable.
Let me tell you, that was the first and last time I'll ever set foot in that restroom.
There was no incentive for the men to pretend modesty or indifference toward the women, not when one side was facing the other like that, no barrier between them.
In San Diego, a store decided to make the bathrooms in compliance with the state. However, the store all but closed. People would not shop there because of that very issue.
And, people were very vocal; in the store, online; everywhere. People told the store; either “fix the bathrooms or we’re never shopping here again”.
It was a double slap for me because I had already boycotted them due to their refusal to allow Salvation Army Red Kettle people during the Christmas season. The store had taken a small hit for that, but when it came to the male adults in the girls bathroom .. NO WAY.
This area tends to be Conservative - we have lots of military units here. We are not afraid to speak up.
Supposedly, the store has now reversed it’s policy (before it went totally broke) - but I still won’t shop there. And, we’ll see what they do next Christmas.
I believe this man was in there for one thing!
He wanted to push the envelope......get some lady to report him and bring in the Disney honchos,
....then he would sue Disney’s deep pockets from here to sundown.
I stopped shopping at Belk because of all the trannies (men pretending to be women) thy have working at the MAC counter.
None of these ladies had a husband around? Why not have a bunch of guys go in there and stand in front, facing guy? She should not be in position to have to speak up... that is dangerous potentially. If any guy is allowed then all guys are allowed in.
The story is sad for only one reason... there are women and kids around but no men. That may be the bigger societal issue.
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