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Mozart's Unmanliness Disgusts Me
Music Choice. Classical Masterpieces ^ | 3/25/2027 | CharlesOconnell

Posted on 03/25/2017 6:45:56 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell

A fussy, effete lttle man, whose own character is well expressed by that of the protagonist in Don Giovanni, going through life transfixed with his own navel (but that's too high).

In violin concerto no. 5 in A major, he's using the noble instrument of Stradivarius, Guarneri and Amati as his own pudenda, a prolonged act of cultural onanism. His failure even to attempt to approach God in emulation of the Blessed angels, shows how granting the boon of total, infused knowledge is casting pearls before swine to a corrupt little human.

He lived as if his genius had been his own invention, as if the gift of glimpsing God's music with his angelic children (see Music of the Ainur, Silmarillion, Tolkien), instead of a being a supreme gift, personally justified and legitimized him.

At first I was mystified that Wagner despised Mozart. But Wagner regarded his own musical gift a negligible, just a platform for his dramatic presentations.

Your talent is God's gift to you. You can't become autonomous by straining against the traces, trying to use genius to become your own god. The greatest creature, Lucifer, the light bearer, came to think of himself as The Light.

Listening to all of Mozart's piano sonatas in order of composition, you see the shock of his discovery of Sebastian Bach, a man who lived humility in his motto Only For the Glory of God, soli Deo Gloria. Mozart started composing the most stilted, artificial piano sonatas in Sebatian's style, veering off course from his own path to seeing God's course for his life. The minuetto of the Jupiter, his last symphony, beneath the facile elegance of the greatest classic polyphony, shows the eyes of despairing, pathetic little man who couldn't live up to the singular gift which had been granted to him, because he tried to use it for self-worship instead of its true purpose, glorifying the Almighty.


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KEYWORDS: amadeus; crap; garbage; stupid; ugh
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To: shibumi
And he does the same things over and over with simple embellishment on what are basic motifs that are patterned and reused.

You must really hate Bach fugues.

21 posted on 03/25/2017 7:09:31 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We Fix America)
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To: CharlesOConnell

On the expressway of life, I don’t worry about what is behind me, only what is in front.

Mozart is long dead, and gone. He left a legacy of his music. Some like it, some don’t.


22 posted on 03/25/2017 7:09:36 AM PDT by FrankR (FULL REPEAL, OR NO DEAL)
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To: shibumi

Eminem is pretty good.


23 posted on 03/25/2017 7:11:31 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: CharlesOConnell

Mozart’s Requiem is one of the masterpieces of western music


24 posted on 03/25/2017 7:13:01 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: CharlesOConnell
Yours are merely the envious musings of the talentless.

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25 posted on 03/25/2017 7:13:28 AM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: miss marmelstein
"(This is a general question not aimed at you in particular.)

Well, I'll answer anyway.

Yes.
I've been going to The Opera since I was twelve.

26 posted on 03/25/2017 7:14:55 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: shibumi

And yet you don’t like Mozart. Who are your favorite opera composers?


27 posted on 03/25/2017 7:16:05 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: CharlesOConnell
I think the "Amadeus" craze a few decades ago elevated Mozart into a sort of cultish demigod status. He was a prodigy, no doubt. And a musical genius of the highest order. But he had his flaws as well.

As several posters have pointed out, his music can be formulaic; you hear the same patterns of tone and rhythm in many of his works. And there is a sense of self-indulgence occasionally.

But Mozart is also capricious and energetic, maybe in order to be self-glorifying, maybe because he had a naturally insouciant nature. In any case, his work is alternately brilliant, enduring, endearing, sublime, childish, frivolous, and conceited.

Just like every other composer's ...

Except Beethoven.

28 posted on 03/25/2017 7:20:36 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: P.O.E.; shibumi; Sirius Lee

I don’t know one classical composer from another, but I’ve heard that Gary Brooker of Procol Harum was influenced by J.S. Bach.


29 posted on 03/25/2017 7:22:00 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: P.O.E.
I’m more of a Bach, Haydn & Beethoven fan.

Mozart's study of Bach is really evident here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prvBEXbnDR0

There is so much counterpoint, even in the melodic passages, and then he really cranks it up at the beginning of the coda. And the piece is of a muscular nature that foretells what is to come with Beethoven.

30 posted on 03/25/2017 7:22:12 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We Fix America)
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To: shibumi; CharlesOConnell; Salamander

And yet, here it is, 200+ years later, and his music is still listened to, enjoyed, performed, and just plain loved over and over again by MILLIONS the world over.

Which is all any artist could hope for.


31 posted on 03/25/2017 7:23:20 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: CharlesOConnell

So much hate. I wonder what your complaints must be against Papa Haydn.


32 posted on 03/25/2017 7:24:03 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We Fix America)
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To: CharlesOConnell

Charle sOconnell is mentally ill.


33 posted on 03/25/2017 7:24:04 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: shibumi

When you put it that way, Mozart’s music is probably as far from jazz as it can possibly be. Where’s the fun in that?


34 posted on 03/25/2017 7:24:25 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: RedStateRocker
WORTH REPEATING

The biggest load of B.S I’ve read since the last time I perused the transcript of a Hillary screech - I mean speech.

by RedStateRocker

35 posted on 03/25/2017 7:26:32 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: CharlesOConnell
Some of Mozart's work doesn't quite do it for me, but I think this was his best work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4VFFBCa5Aw

36 posted on 03/25/2017 7:27:03 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: miss marmelstein
And if one hasn’t heard Enzio Pinza in The Marriage of Figaro, one probably doesn’t know what I’m talking about.

I was a music major in my undergraduate years, and in my Senior year in choir (required course), we sang his Requiem. We performed at the Kennedy Center. Not being a voice major (BA, Musicology), I was relegated to the back, with the bass singers.

Regardless, that was one of the most electrifying experiences of my life! I still remember singing the Dies Ire! The basses would come in, mildly at first:

Quantus tremor est futurus (What dread there will be)

And the women would respond...

Dies irae, dies illa (Day of wrath, that day)

Again, we would sing, a little louder:

Quantus tremor est futurus...

And this would go back and forth, growing in crescendo, until we came out in full blast!

Quando judex est venturus! (When the Judge shall come!)
Cuncta stricte discussurus! (To judge all things!)

THAT was muscular music! I still get chills thinking of our performance almost 40 years ago.

37 posted on 03/25/2017 7:29:05 AM PDT by COBOL2Java ("Game over, man, game over!" (my advice to DemocRATs))
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To: CharlesOConnell

“Don Giovanni, a man in love with his own male generative body part. “

“...para...mas-tur-ba-tory...” - Fox Mulder


38 posted on 03/25/2017 7:29:34 AM PDT by PLMerite (Lord, let me die fighting lions. Amen)
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To: COBOL2Java

Wow! What an experience. There are always hair-raising moments in Mozart.


39 posted on 03/25/2017 7:30:52 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: COBOL2Java

Wow! What an experience. There are always hair-raising moments in Mozart.


40 posted on 03/25/2017 7:31:09 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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