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The First State To Offer Free Community College To Nearly Every Adult
National Public Radio ^ | June 11, 2017 | Emily Siner

Posted on 06/12/2017 1:50:10 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Alberta's Child

Shouldn’t be free for any of them.


21 posted on 06/12/2017 4:11:38 AM PDT by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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To: Alberta's Child

I think you are exactly right.

For “personal enrichment” in the spring semester 2012, I enrolled in my local Community College to take an algebra class at age 54. I’ve never been good at algebra and I wanted to correct that shortcoming. I had to actually take a placement test which I studied for because it had been a while since I had been in college (I have a B.S. degree 1981).

Anyway, it was in interesting experience. Although my class (elementary algebra) met in the evenings, most of the class were under 25 years old. Out of the 34 students on the first day of class, only 7 were still plugging away at the end and took the final exam. I know that at least 2 of those 7 students did not pass the class.

After that first semester, I decided to take another math class and then another and another. I’m at present 7 credits short of a Biology AS degree, I need to take Organic Chemistry 2 and college Trig.

I will probably audit organic chem 1 as a refresher in the fall so fingers crossed I will have my degree in Dec. 2018 but really no hurry.

Over the semesters I have come to know many adult “non-traditional” students. They are without a doubt more focused and better organized than the kids. They have a much more realistic expectation of exactly what a degree will get them.

Most of the classes I have taken are upper level math and science so even the just out of high school students tend to be overall better students so my experience is somewhat skewed. But I did take an English Comp class and in that class there were many typical young college students, many couldn’t follow the instructors directions and did poorly as a result.


22 posted on 06/12/2017 4:27:59 AM PDT by fatboy
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To: All

There are too many people attending college as it is....just look at the dropout rates for proof.


23 posted on 06/12/2017 4:29:20 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: who knows what evil?

Big Govt within a state is where it’s supposed to be. Federal and state income taxes are backwards.


24 posted on 06/12/2017 4:34:35 AM PDT by TiGuy22
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To: meyer

He is Lame DUCK so no. Just choose wiser, Sen Mae Beavers is running on a repeal of the gas tax hike. She is a conservative. Norris is good but he was involved in brokering ‘a better’ deal on the gas tax hike, which will end up paying for this crap. I can see offering it to returning Military or those who have super high grades, but not total population as most are not even true HS grads.

Hubby taught at S. W. Tech, or State Tech for 20 yrs, math/computer/electronics and was chair of his dept before he retired, all the MEMPHIS students had to take remedial math before they could take his classes, they were handed grades of A/B when they were actually D/F students. Foreign and Military taking them were ACE students, many went on to be lawyer’s, doctors or open businesses of their own. Same stuff he taught in the Navy for nearly 17 yrs of his 20 yr Navy Career.


25 posted on 06/12/2017 4:51:29 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up Buttercups it's President Donald Trump! DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

2 conservatives ran against him, neither would back down even with 1 polling in the single digits, enough to ensure the RINO won. Same reason we have Scandal Plagued Corker and Senile RINO Lamar who broke his oath of 2 terms and out. With Lamar it was a choice of the RINO against the Crooked FORD family Harold Ford Jr which is a dirty name all over TN. Whole family of crooks most in politics.


26 posted on 06/12/2017 4:56:13 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up Buttercups it's President Donald Trump! DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Boyd is pro ILLEGAL and Refugee is he not Field?

I’ve already put Mae Beavers in my vote for decision. Even over Sen. Mark Norris he’s been playing to nice to compromise lately.


27 posted on 06/12/2017 4:59:43 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up Buttercups it's President Donald Trump! DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: meyer

I would agree with that, but it’s a different issue entirely.


28 posted on 06/12/2017 5:01:00 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Taxes just went up and will continue and if they are like UC president Janet Napolitano in California who stole $175 million to use for her pet projects like global warming. It really is a money laundering operation for democrat party. She said she was sorry and will not be prosecuted nor will lose her job.
I have not yet heard if she gave the money back.....she did not I bet.


29 posted on 06/12/2017 5:15:55 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How about upgrading HS education, including real vocational education as an offering? That way students who would like to get on with their lives could get a job that leads to self-sufficiency upon HS graduation.

What this does is provide two more years of sloth and indoctrination for those who have no intention of leading productive lives. It will ruin Community College for the relatively small percentage it was originally meant to serve.

30 posted on 06/12/2017 5:36:58 AM PDT by grania (Deplarable and Proud of It!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Any politician who says “it’s free” needs to be kicked out of office.


31 posted on 06/12/2017 5:41:30 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Le Pen: "Islamism is a totalitarian ideology that has declared war on our nation, on civilization.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I live a few miles on the Pennsylvania side of the border and Delaware public schools are notorious for poor quality. There are a large number of expensive elite private schools that parents that can afford it chose.


32 posted on 06/12/2017 5:49:43 AM PDT by gunnut
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The state can not distinguish between those getting a degree for the purpose of employment vs. taking classes for personal enrichment. It is wrong for taxpayers to pay for either, it especially for the latter.


33 posted on 06/12/2017 6:09:59 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom not more government.)
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To: jdsteel

How does Peyton Manning figure in all of this?


34 posted on 06/12/2017 6:15:33 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
" If you don't have a degree, and you want one, your tuition is free"

Hardly every adult.

35 posted on 06/12/2017 7:28:04 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)
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To: fatboy

Over the semesters I have come to know many adult “non-traditional” students. They are without a doubt more focused and better organized than the kids. They have a much more realistic expectation of exactly what a degree will get them.


I was somewhat “non-traditional”, in that I was in college from age 25 to 28, and got the degree which set me on a career path at age 28. I know I was a better student, and more focused in my late 20s than I was right out of high school.

I wish we had a “social norm”, so to speak, of high school students working or going in the military for a few years, before going to college. Getting that real world life experience can really help people, in my opinion. The way things are now, most go right from one school to another type of school as they enter college, with no exposure to the world outside a classroom.


36 posted on 06/12/2017 8:08:44 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: GailA

Yup.


37 posted on 06/12/2017 8:09:06 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is only about lowering the unemployment rate. Students cannot be unemployees.


38 posted on 06/12/2017 8:12:34 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (If a border fence isn't effective, why is there a border fence around the White House?)
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