Posted on 09/12/2017 10:34:11 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
This is from yesterday. My hope was that Trump could have started by eliminating Obamacare + his directives. Let America know his legacy is one of resentment. Eliminate Bush/Clinton POLICIES such as the Patriot Act, No Child Behind and all that other crap-mostly Bush's. Property confiscation.
After Nov. 2018: With big majorities eliminate the Great Society as much as possible. The key is how many Senate seats we can pick up. That's OUR job.
2020: Reelection coattails. Take us back to B4 FDR grew government.
BIG LAST: Eliminate the 16th and 17th Amendment. Income taxes/Senate elections. That's where it all started. The damage done is best explained in Robert Curry's article in americanthinker.com. on Sept. 7.
Trump will take the arrows on our behalf. SCOTUS appointments, 4% growth. He's the one who can throw the left a bone from time to time to calm them down a bit. I'm talking inexpensive(social) stuff. Revisiting sentencing guidelines for drug use, questioning the morality of capital punishment even support of gay marriage. Even TALK about reparations for those born BEFORE the civil rights act. $20k(think Japanese). Get credit for going there(think John Kerry Viet Nam)Remember Reagan never prevented an abortion.
My friends I hope your responses are not one-line reactions like most of mine are. This is our opportunity. Timing is everything. So is a few bucks going to Senate elections that are WINNABLE. It's us and Trump. Can't count on elected RINO's. Thank you all.
In addition to repealing the 16th and 17th Amendments, we need to revoke the House Rule limiting House Members to 435. The Constitution states there should be no more than 1 Representative for every 30,000 people. With the growth in population since that House Rule was passed, we now have a 1:715,000 ratio of Representatives to citizens.
This makes it nearly impossible for a true citizen statesman to ever attain the office. By the time they get there via the standard route, they are career politicians, vested in the oligarchy.
Politicians love to quote from the U.S. Constitution and the Declaration of Independence...however, few follow it...Obama trashed it multiple of times followed by the left doing the same.
McCain, Flake, Snow, Murkowski (?) and other GOP senators and congressmen RINOS....NO VOTES for anyone who doesn't stand with and for the United States Constitution!
Count me out if you, him, GOP does not fight against Gay Marriage.
My Christianity isn’t up for sale!
My take is that the only way the real change takes place is that we push for it AFTER the collapse. It certainly is not going to happen before.
Want proof? You can’t get fruit hanging lower than Obamacare, yet it is not only intact, but even the simplest attempt to modify it (the end of the mandates) failed, with an R majority.
The swamp is not drained. The #uniparty is still in control. The only things of substance we’ve seen change since the election is things that Trump can do on his own.
Repeating here an illustration of how reform of the US Senate may be addressed via Article V by state legislatures:
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AMENDMENT XXVIII (’Federal State Rebalancing’)
To restore the foundational structure of State Legislatures to Congress, the following amendment is proposed:
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Section 1.
Senators in Congress shall be subject to recall by their respective state legislature or by voter referendum in their respective state.
Section 2.
Term limits for Senators in Congress shall be set by vote in their respective state legislatures but in no case shall be set less than twelve years nor more than eighteen years.
Section 3:
The seventeenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.
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As of today there are 11 states fully (both chambers) signed on (and growing) to amending the US Constitution via Article V. Of the 99 state legislative chambers, 66 are needed and already more than 40 (and growing) are signed on.
Visit https://www.conventionofstates.com for registering your participation.
Calif. passed a law saying marriage is between a man and a woman-simple. It’s not that the 9th circuit court shut it down. It’s all OUR efforts that were for naught. BEATING ONE’S HEAD AGAINST THE WALL IS BEST DONE WHEN THE DUCKS ARE ALL LINED UP. 2018 is that opportunity.
Trump’s election has revealed that the the depth and mass of the deep state/crony financial interests will not be rooted out cleanly.
Trump has made his approach clear. We got into this mostly piece by piece, and he is picking an approach to slow down the decay. Taking out the 16th or 17th amendments is not what he campaigned on.
He campaigned (in no particular order) on sound SCOTUS/judicial picks. He has come through fine on that.
He campaigned on repeal and replace of Obamacare. While any replacement might be state-centric, directly or indiretly the federal government is going to continue to have a big role in health insurance regulation and subsidization. Even before Obamacare, half of the medical bills were paid by Maedicare/Medicaid, so we were half socialized in medicine before Obama even became president!
He campaigned on less spending in some areas and more spending in others. He explicitly did NOT campaign on a rollback of entitlements. That will have to wait another day.
He campaigned on an overhaul of the tax code andtrade to bring capital and manufacturing back to the United States.
Donald Trump did NOT campaign as Adam Smith or Ludwig Von Mises or Russell Kirk, though a genuine love of country combined with common sense makes his stands coincide with a lot of their positions anyway.
We have problems that are more immediate and existential, with 1 1/2 parties working against Trump 25% of them covertly, many of them in the hard to fire civil service divisions.
Trump is NOT a life long government wonk, he needs people who know the lay of the land to implement, and they have been few and far between. Most of us thought Sessions would have better fish to fry than worrying about being aggressive over prosecuting ranchers like Bundy.
The president is in a great position to do much, but he has decided to pick his battles, and mostly continue to maneuver the media into backing the P.C. position instead of the general populace’s position. He will make mistakes along the way.
Trump has changed the argument and exposed more of the Deep State. He is picking great judges, and does not kowtow to the compromised Republican leadership. He will continue to work on getting the wall and implementing sane immigration policy. He will not bring us blindly into a new war with no clear objective and no chance of truly winning. He is working to bring manufacturing, capital and a saner tax policy to this country, all while driving a political realignment that the McConnells and Ryans are to dense to pick up on.
That’s plenty for one man’s plate, even if that man is the president.
Repeal the 17th..to kill the Uni-party
Repeal the 16th to starve the Fedzilla monster
Term limits will only create a permanent ruling class of bureaucrats worse than we now have... Byzantine empire did that and failed in very historical fashion.. Our Founding Fathers knew their history and did us well till 1913...
1) gs: 435 congressmen are MORE than enough if the 10th amendment were followed.
2) yoe: unconstitutionalists -RINOS-can be dealt with better as POTUS appoints SCOTUS.
3) roborys: AFTER the collapse? Better if a Democrat is in office when it happens. We can’t wait.
4) Dr. Sivana: You are very smart.
Article 10: you really need to explain your term limits opinion.
The Article V movement is growing toward critical mass. Just a few years ago it was a handful of states, now it is in more than 34 states with 11 states completely signed on.
2018 is NOT going to see term limits for US Senators coming from CONGRESS. Congress will NEVER term-limit itself.
Also, the ‘law’ in California was not a law but rather an amendment passed by the people of California to their state constitution. It was more than a law. It was a homosexual federal judge who later died that struck down the people’s amendment by ruling that the group leading the movement had no standing.
I am certain that a US Constitutional Amendment for Term Limits duly proposed and ratified by state legislatures would never be struck down by any federal judiciary body because the standing of state legislatures is clear and incontrovertible.
Read the proposed amendment in #6. It is more than term-limits.
The fedgov monster will go full-tilt stalin before they let any of this happen. That includes all of the democrats, and virtually all of the republicans. The holdouts will be executed and/or exiled.
And don’t bother with the military. The ranks are being purged and replaced with deviants, foreigners, and mercenaries.
The police? Forget about that. The FOP will smack down any law and order types in their ranks, and force them to stand by and watch.
These groups are aligning themselves against America, and at some point, they will unleash their plans.
ok so I read post #6. There is a reason why senators serve 6 years. Recall? I don’t think so. Melendez should not keep his seat once found guilty. I see no teeth there-it requires a Senate vote if I’m not wrong. Cereal the other amendment? Just put your 28th amendment in it’s place. WE JUST MIGHT have too many.
Include Term Limits AND Recall, for each and every level of politician AND judge!
I have...
the issue with recall is the State Political machine then becomes the power broker, and every swap of the Capital equals another recalled Congress Critter.
2 years for the House is fine... its the flag in the wind and they are always running... very little time to relax
6 years in the Senate.. prior to the 17th Amendment makes perfect sense... If the State Capital changes, Governor or either Chamber and the sitting Senator wants to continue they have to respond or they go away 1 and done.. They had better be extraordinary at politics to be in more than 1 term... It will in effect slow the speed down of the Senate as well and force them to use there time wisely versus the stupid entrenched crap fueled by the lobbyist money
Added benefit will be the K Street Cartel in Dc will now have to engage every state capital in order to get anything out of the Senate...gets really expensive or just not possible, thus only the real issues will get funded or time allocated to them...
The issue with any terms limits are the bureaucracy that will develop such as today or in historical records, ie the Byzantine Empire
Recall is very important. It’s the method for ‘firing’ a US Senator.
Just the thought of recall can make a US Senator vote according to his/her state legislature or voter base.
In repealing the 17th, voters are having their votes taken vote away for US Senator. The deal is to give voters a means of ‘firing’ their US Senator, rather than ‘hiring’ as is done now by popular vote.
Recalls are good for US politicians because if they are doing a good job such as Governor Walker of Wisconsin, they will survive recall and emerge much stronger in power. If on the other hand, a politician is unable to survive recall, they will be taken out of office. Chances are that recalls will happen infrequently as the fear of recall will compel politicians to do the will of voters or legislatures in the case of US Senators.
Some heavyweight politicians recently came out in favor of providing for recall of US Senators as they gave an example that Obamacare would never have passed had a recall provision been in effect.
We need to stop counting illegals and other visitors in our citizen census.
Unfortunately he seems to be starting by expanding and legalizing the DACA amnesty. Not exactly a move in the right direction.
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