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This may sound like a dumb question to many as they ask, "Haven't you been following the news?" "Following the online blogs?"

To answer your question(s): No, I have not. You see, I have this defense mechanism which tells me that during events such as these, I engage in a personal blackout of news. I don't want to be further terrorized, preached to, and listen to pundits and media hacks tell me why its all my fault, an American should just give up their guns. I also know that the first casualty of war is the truth.

Oh, and BTW, I'm going to be in Las Vegas next month.

So rather than deal with this on an emotion level, I dealing with this as strictly based on evidence; not just what we are being told, but what we're NOT being told.

Like others, I have neither the time or patience for 'conspiracy theories' - just facts, and what we can conclude so far:

1. The accused is not a Republican.

2. The accused in not a member of the NRA.

3. Who ever did this didn't snap. It was cold and calculated.

If either of the above were true, it would have been the 2nd and 3rd attribute repeated from the lips of the media.

There maybe footage out there, but I have not seen it yet, I will ask again just as if the accused survived and was on trial in court: Has anyone seen a video proving the accused was actually firing the weapon(s) described from the location described on Oct 1, 2017?

I am not a gun expert, but there is a big difference between visiting Las Vegas and living/working there. I have done the latter. So I'll give a few more tidbits in case the media hasn't told you:

3. This is Vegas - the south end. There are cameras everywhere. Someone saw something, and its on video tape.

4. They watch everyone - especially if you're a big gambler.

With that said, I'll throw out a couple questions that may or may not have been asked from my Vegas background, that may lead folks to the truth:

A: What date was the accused due to check out of the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino? (No one gets open ended stays)

B: Was the accused gambling during his stay? if so, what games were in his interest, and how much was he ahead or behind? (Yes, Real America - casinos keep track of these things.

C: forget hiding weapons in suite cases (which without video proof, even that is speculation, how were these weapons hidden from those that service the rooms? (a do not disturb sign doesn't cover you past 36 hours. Do you know how many folks have died/passed out in those rooms? There are routine safety checks.

D. Knowing the area, this attack could have produced just as many or even more casualties targeting other areas on "The Strip". But this target was chosen - obviously for a reason.

If the government/media complex want me to swallow this story, they need to provide evidence that everything they have explained so far could define the accused as the shooter, instead of possibly as the first victim of a shooter.

Again, I don't know - have no idea. We just want the truth. But no one in my neck of the woods is buying the crap the government is selling .

Just my $.02 jimjohn - OUT

1 posted on 10/05/2017 9:21:20 PM PDT by jimjohn
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I'm sorry, but this absolutely drives me up the wall when FReepers do this.

Please post your comments in the Body of Thread section, not the Body of Comment section.

2 posted on 10/05/2017 9:25:15 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (We're right, you're wrong - that's the end of the argument.)
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Law enforcement there has apparently claimed he had help.


3 posted on 10/05/2017 9:25:28 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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The fact that the live-in Filipina girlfriend had no inkling that this was about to happen raises a red flag. My wife would know if I was putting together a weapons and ammunition cache. Guaranteed.


4 posted on 10/05/2017 9:26:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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Hotel security cameras, plus the killer set up his own cameras. I’m sure the FBI will send you copies of the video with a simple FOI request.


5 posted on 10/05/2017 9:28:05 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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In a nutshell, looks like leftists have started shooting at us.


6 posted on 10/05/2017 9:29:48 PM PDT by exnavy (long live the .45 colt, the original handgun cartridge.)
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Who ever did this didn't snap. It was cold and calculated.

That would be an important distinction if he lived and was put on trial. Manslaughter or murder and in what degree.

I don't know that it really matters here. Obviously there was premeditation. Clearly he planned something in advance.

The more important question IMHO is whether he had some kind of break with reality that provoked this or whether he could be called "sane" and "rational" all the way through till the end.

8 posted on 10/05/2017 9:35:02 PM PDT by x
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He appears to have been in a large suite with lots of furniture; plenty of places to hide things if he couldn’t get the maids to leave him alone - which over a few days he probably could.

There must be video, but it’s not being splayed on the evening news.


9 posted on 10/05/2017 9:35:17 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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Did this even occur? Even if it did, did 58 really die? You know how they want to inflate the death count for their sick shock value. Also, watch out for the dead already reported dead in previous false flag incidents. I am not calling this a false flag, but it smells.


13 posted on 10/05/2017 9:39:21 PM PDT by sagar
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The Las Vegas authorities released a body cam video of police a day or two ago.

The video isn’t long, and at times, there isnt a time/date stamp on it..
but when the date/time stamp is seen in the upper corner, the date is 10/2, not 10/1 (the day of the attack) and it’s just after 0500 hours.. as in AM.

10/2 at 5:00 AM is after the attack. a few hours after.

And most of the video is police ducked behind a wall-

what possible explanation could there be for that sort of discrepancy?


14 posted on 10/05/2017 9:39:56 PM PDT by delchiante
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great questions and comments. we should always ask, cui Bono? who benefits? there is a lot to question around many official narratives.


16 posted on 10/05/2017 9:50:02 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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Even though they say he had cameras in & outside of his room, they say they were NOT recording! I do not trust them.


17 posted on 10/05/2017 9:51:09 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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At least one of the serial numbers on the guns has been traced to him (and probably more than one)...it was his dead body lying on the floor next to the rifles in a room with the windows knocked out...I’m sure the police do have access to video that shows him smuggling the guns up there...I’d say its pretty clear this guy is the ‘real’ shooter.


21 posted on 10/05/2017 9:55:15 PM PDT by lacrew
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Second Shooter YES
Video taken by cab driver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iooW2Lev1qw


22 posted on 10/05/2017 9:56:54 PM PDT by hapnHal
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I’ve been wondering about this since it happened.

I tend to accept the “stated” facts about what happened, but if you actually think about it... how hard would it be for a group to just bust into his room and kill him, throw around a few weapons, then say he was the shooter?

This combined with the fact that nothing seems to add up - nobody has heard anything about this guy being anti-social, or really anti-government, or anti-abortion, or anti anything.

I’m pretty much resigned to the fact I will actually never know who or what was truly responsible.

Like you, it’s just my .02 cents.


24 posted on 10/05/2017 10:07:03 PM PDT by djf ("She wore a raspberry beret, the kind you find in a second hand store..." - Prince)
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Your paranoia runs deep


28 posted on 10/05/2017 10:19:31 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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C. He ordered room service often enough to reset the clock, but did not allow them into the room.


32 posted on 10/05/2017 10:27:33 PM PDT by Ingtar
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OJ did it.


35 posted on 10/05/2017 10:35:33 PM PDT by Drew68
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Good grief! Yes.


37 posted on 10/05/2017 10:39:05 PM PDT by citizen (The aging US Senate: 5 in 80s, 18 in 70s, 32 in 60s, 30 in 50s, 14 in 40s, and 1 in 30s.)
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With each passing day, it seems more questions are raised than are answered.


38 posted on 10/05/2017 10:44:13 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation ("You can't fix America without pissing off the people who broke it".....Bill Mitchell)
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I have heard it reported that he filmed himself doing the shooting. No I have not seen the video, and don't know if it was released.

Assault rifles are easy to hide in suit cases. One need only separate them into their two main parts. Unless he was an idiot, he would have arrived with them packed in suit cases. Moved the suit cases up with a hotel cart. And left the suit cases with the weapons closed until he was ready to do his evil. So I am not sure what surveillance all over Vegas would have seen.

40 posted on 10/05/2017 11:41:44 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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