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Vegas: Are We Sure We Got the Right Guy?
self | jimjohn

Posted on 10/05/2017 9:21:20 PM PDT by jimjohn

Real Americans,

I have been asking one question on several threads on several blogs, hoping someone can provide an answer: "Has anyone seen a video proving the accused was actually firing the weapon(s) described from the location described on Oct 1, 2017?"


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To: jimjohn

At least one of the serial numbers on the guns has been traced to him (and probably more than one)...it was his dead body lying on the floor next to the rifles in a room with the windows knocked out...I’m sure the police do have access to video that shows him smuggling the guns up there...I’d say its pretty clear this guy is the ‘real’ shooter.


21 posted on 10/05/2017 9:55:15 PM PDT by lacrew
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To: jimjohn

Second Shooter YES
Video taken by cab driver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iooW2Lev1qw


22 posted on 10/05/2017 9:56:54 PM PDT by hapnHal
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Please post your comments in the Body of Thread section, not the Body of Comment section.

When folks post a rambling essay, or a 3,000 word excerpt from an article in the comments, I just scroll on past.

Sometimes I'll suggest that they put such a post up as a separate thread.

23 posted on 10/05/2017 10:00:47 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: jimjohn

I’ve been wondering about this since it happened.

I tend to accept the “stated” facts about what happened, but if you actually think about it... how hard would it be for a group to just bust into his room and kill him, throw around a few weapons, then say he was the shooter?

This combined with the fact that nothing seems to add up - nobody has heard anything about this guy being anti-social, or really anti-government, or anti-abortion, or anti anything.

I’m pretty much resigned to the fact I will actually never know who or what was truly responsible.

Like you, it’s just my .02 cents.


24 posted on 10/05/2017 10:07:03 PM PDT by djf ("She wore a raspberry beret, the kind you find in a second hand store..." - Prince)
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To: sagar
Did this even occur? Even if it did, did 58 really die?

I'm surprised there weren't even more deaths. The guy was shooting at fish in a barrel.

25 posted on 10/05/2017 10:11:02 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: GLDNGUN

I’m not doubting that it occurred. I am just asking questions that are not so clear. This could be a setup or part of a bigger terrorist plot or even a fabricated narrative. Do you deny these plausibilities?


26 posted on 10/05/2017 10:11:21 PM PDT by sagar
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To: Windflier

“I’m surprised there weren’t even more deaths. The guy was shooting at fish in a barrel. “

He apparently shot 1000 rounds from a thousand feet away... and injured or killed 600 people. Pretty good hit-rate for a middle aged accountant with severe skin allergies. Makes sense. Oh and he conveniently killed himself (shot in the head) before the police could engage him.


27 posted on 10/05/2017 10:13:51 PM PDT by sagar
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To: jimjohn

Your paranoia runs deep


28 posted on 10/05/2017 10:19:31 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: sagar

Pick up the phone. Alex needs to rant


29 posted on 10/05/2017 10:21:46 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: delchiante
what possible explanation could there be for that sort of discrepancy?

You are assuming that the body cam reflects local time, which sounds reasonable enough; however, the timestamp reflects Greenwich Mean Time (and Date). 10:00 PM Las Vegas time is 5:00 AM (next day) GMT. If you watch the video look for the "Z" at the end of the timestamp. The "Z" stands for Zulu time, which is also GMT.
30 posted on 10/05/2017 10:22:55 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: sagar
He apparently shot 1000 rounds from a thousand feet away... and injured or killed 600 people. Pretty good hit-rate for a middle aged accountant with severe skin allergies.

There were 22,000 people within range, packed in like sardines. A monkey could have killed as many as Paddock did.

31 posted on 10/05/2017 10:23:49 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: jimjohn

C. He ordered room service often enough to reset the clock, but did not allow them into the room.


32 posted on 10/05/2017 10:27:33 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: hapnHal

There are plenty of videos out there one or two hous before the shooting showing the lower floor flashes.


33 posted on 10/05/2017 10:31:16 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: CondorFlight
Photos of Paddock clearly show a number “13” on his neck.

There was never a tattoo of the number "13" on his neck. It was a shadow.

34 posted on 10/05/2017 10:33:38 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: jimjohn

OJ did it.


35 posted on 10/05/2017 10:35:33 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: sagar
Do you deny these plausibilities?

I think we probably only know the tip of the iceberg, but asking if it even happened is ridiculous on the face of it. All 58 names of the deceased have been released. Go ahead and research them and see if they really are dead.
36 posted on 10/05/2017 10:36:17 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: jimjohn

Good grief! Yes.


37 posted on 10/05/2017 10:39:05 PM PDT by citizen (The aging US Senate: 5 in 80s, 18 in 70s, 32 in 60s, 30 in 50s, 14 in 40s, and 1 in 30s.)
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To: jimjohn

With each passing day, it seems more questions are raised than are answered.


38 posted on 10/05/2017 10:44:13 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation ("You can't fix America without pissing off the people who broke it".....Bill Mitchell)
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To: PghBaldy

I read the police said Stephen had a signal jammer to block the hallway cameras. That way he or whoever else he was working with could slip into that stairwell unnoticed and blend in with the Carnage to escape. I don’t remember what movie it was but I distinctly remember a scene where the criminal dresses as a firefighter with a mask on to blend in and escape from the crime scene.


39 posted on 10/05/2017 10:46:31 PM PDT by BootsOfEscaping
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To: jimjohn
I have heard it reported that he filmed himself doing the shooting. No I have not seen the video, and don't know if it was released.

Assault rifles are easy to hide in suit cases. One need only separate them into their two main parts. Unless he was an idiot, he would have arrived with them packed in suit cases. Moved the suit cases up with a hotel cart. And left the suit cases with the weapons closed until he was ready to do his evil. So I am not sure what surveillance all over Vegas would have seen.

40 posted on 10/05/2017 11:41:44 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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