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Man Impersonating DEA During Home Invasion, Shot, Killed
Gun Watch ^ | 25 July, 2018 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 07/26/2018 5:23:33 AM PDT by marktwain

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One of the purposes of a warrant is to inform the person being served that the search is legitimate, and being conducted under due process.
1 posted on 07/26/2018 5:23:33 AM PDT by marktwain
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Scary stuff. Sounds like she would have been trafficked, or raped and dead. Thank God for the brother.


2 posted on 07/26/2018 5:28:48 AM PDT by GnuThere
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Does the phrase “actions have consequences” have any meaning to most Americans today?


3 posted on 07/26/2018 5:30:10 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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If you drug-test both knuckleheads here....they both fail. The drugged-up guy has no concern about consequences...the stuff has melted their ‘compass’ and they can’t imagine being dead in twelve minutes.

You can go down the 500 shootings/killings of the past week from across the nation, and if the cops would just go and drug-test every single one of guys....they would all fail.


4 posted on 07/26/2018 5:36:21 AM PDT by pepsionice
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“Police officers have been killed when they have attempted to serve warrants without sufficient notice. Homeowners who have shot police officers have been found not guilty by juries.”

As it should be. When the police are acting like criminals the lines are often blurred and homeowners have no choice but to defend themselves. Mistaken identities/wrong addresses further complicate these issues.


5 posted on 07/26/2018 5:41:53 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: miss marmelstein

The recent spate of GVRO/Red Flag laws passed in blue states will make this situation even worse. Anyone can now point his/her finger at someone and tell a cop, “He threatened me, he has guns, I’m afraid”; the cop goes to a judge, GVRO issued, no due process, and the po-po are banging on someone’s door with no warning whatsoever.

Confiscation, one gun owner at a time.


6 posted on 07/26/2018 5:43:17 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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meanwhile they’ve been arrested and charged for attempting to shoot a DEA officer :\


7 posted on 07/26/2018 5:50:04 AM PDT by Fhios (♫ Oh Where have you been Jeffy boy Jeffy boy oh where have you been charming Jeffy?)
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My point was about stupid and corrupt policing, not drug-addled killers smart enough to imitate dumb policing methods.

And I generally am a great supporter of cops.


8 posted on 07/26/2018 5:51:50 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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Good.
No Knock searches are over the top, should not be used except maybe for VERY special cases when serving a warrant would be too dangerous.

9 posted on 07/26/2018 5:53:57 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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“The war on drugs has vastly expanded the use of “no knock” warrants, which have been issued promiscuously in recent years. The mere ownership of legal firearms has been used as a premise to issue a no-knock warrant.”

You really can’t know whether it’s a home invader or a Fed when you’re woken up at 5AM and someone is shouting “DEA” or “FBI” or “police”! This policy of
“no knock” raids is obviously being copied by the regular criminals. Of course, this makes it more dangerous for the Feds and a positive feed back loop is created.

The morons at the DEA and other Federal agency should really re-consider the untoward consequences of their no knock raid requests. I really can’t have much sympathy for these Gestapo agents using Gestapo tactics so the Feds are reaping what they sow.

In WI, we even saw no-knock pre-dawn raids used as a means of collecting evidence by local Milwaukee police in a politically driven investigations driven by anti-Walker “East German” DA Chisholm


10 posted on 07/26/2018 5:54:05 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Abolish administrative law. It's regressive, medieval and unconstitutional!)
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Not that it’s easy to do real-time, but if it’s only one or two people claiming to be cops breaking into a house, it’s probably a home invasion rather than a legit search, at least that’s what I see watching TV. For a no-knock, they do want and need overwhelming force.

Either way, it’s an ugly situation.


11 posted on 07/26/2018 5:54:51 AM PDT by BobL (I drive a pick up truck because it makes me feel like a man)
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It strikes me as being kind of odd that the house and yard are fenced in.


12 posted on 07/26/2018 5:58:39 AM PDT by equaviator (`)
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Thresholds are so low for these raids that criminals and miscreants are calling police departments with fake information prompting the police to launch a SWAT raid based on a fake call.

It’s called SWAT-ing, and it wouldn’t work if police checked things out before sending in a heavily armed platoon and armored cars.


13 posted on 07/26/2018 6:01:29 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Abolish administrative law. It's regressive, medieval and unconstitutional!)
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To: marktwain

Good article.


14 posted on 07/26/2018 6:02:26 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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“It strikes me as being kind of odd that the house and yard are fenced in.”

Small children? Pets? Keep neighbors kids/pets away? Good fences make good neighbors?

Not odd or out of line in any way.


15 posted on 07/26/2018 6:06:12 AM PDT by JParris
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Hard to tell at 5AM when you’re waking up. That’s the point.

The regular criminals don’t really need to worry that their badges are fake when the victim is going from just waking up to tunnel vision.

More SWAT raids means more fake SWAT raids. More real and fake SWAT raids means more deaths for everyone.


16 posted on 07/26/2018 6:06:54 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Abolish administrative law. It's regressive, medieval and unconstitutional!)
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It strikes me as being kind of odd that the house and yard are fenced in.

Kids and pets? We know there were 3 children.

17 posted on 07/26/2018 6:13:58 AM PDT by Abby4116
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To: marktwain

The only reason for a “no-knock” warrant is that there is something on the other side of the door worth killing or dying for.
IMHO, “Flushing the evidence” is not a reason.
Otherwise, how do you tell a cop from a criminal?


18 posted on 07/26/2018 6:16:13 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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This problem has a relatively easy solution. Any police warrant party should be required to have a marked police cruiser with them.

And the instant the cops go through the house’s door, that cruiser must turn its blue and red emergency lights on, and hit the siren. Let folks know that it’s really the police out there.


19 posted on 07/26/2018 6:17:27 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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You can’t tell the difference between cops and robbers these days.


20 posted on 07/26/2018 6:22:36 AM PDT by Terry Mross (On some threads it's best to go jst inraight to the comments.)
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