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Door Knock Gun Control: New Jersey Gun Confiscation Begins
Flopping Aces ^ | 12-19-18 | Daniel John Sobieski

Posted on 12/19/2018 9:51:02 AM PST by Starman417

President Obama and President Trump were both right, Obama when he told us elections have consequences and Trump in his 2018 stump speech that a consequence of Democrat victories would be renewed attacks on the Second Amendment. New Jersey’s ban on high capacity magazines has been upheld by a federal court, opening the door to door knock gun confiscation and making off-duty police officers subject to criminal prosecution. The inmates are officially running the asylum.

This law is one of those “sensible restrictions” on gun ownership that liberals like to talk about but that criminals will ignore as the judge who ruled the law constitutional says that despite the asterisk put next to the Second Amendment by the court assures us there is nothing to worry about:

The law, signed by Gov. Phil Murphy in June along with five other new gun laws, gave New Jersey gun owners who currently possess the magazines in question 180 days to either surrender them, permanently modify them to only accept up to 10 rounds, or transfer them to somebody who is allowed to legally own them. The deadline is set to expire on Monday.

A lawsuit brought by the Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs and supported by the National Rifle Association failed on Thursday as the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals declared the confiscation law constitutional. Any civilian caught in possession of a magazine capable of holding more than 10 rounds may be arrested and prosecuted. Possession of such magazines after the deadline will be considered a crime of the fourth degree under state law and carry up to 18 months in prison and up to $10,000 in fines or both.

Nearly all modern full-size or compact handguns and rifles sold in the United States come standard with magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition….

Judge Patty Shwartz, an Obama appointee, wrote for the majority that the law serves a legitimate public safety purpose….

"Today we address whether one of New Jersey's responses to the rise in active and mass shooting incidents in the United States—a law that limits the amount of ammunition that may be held in a single firearm magazine to no more than ten rounds—violates the Second Amendment, the Fifth Amendment's Takings Clause, and the Fourteenth Amendment's Equal Protection Clause," she wrote. "We conclude that it does not. New Jersey's law reasonably fits the State's interest in public safety and does not unconstitutionally burden the Second Amendment's right to self-defense in the home. The law also does not violate the Fifth Amendment's Takings Clause because it does not require gun owners to surrender their magazines but instead allows them to retain modified magazines or register firearms that have magazines that cannot be modified. Finally, because retired law enforcement officers have training and experience that makes them different from ordinary citizens, the law's exemption that permits them to possess magazines that can hold more than ten rounds does not violate the Fourteenth Amendment's Equal Protection Clause."

That’s not the opinion of Bergen County Prosecutor Dennis Calo who warns that even police officers have become instant felons under the new law:
The new law that limits gun magazines to 10 rounds went into effect on Dec. 10 without the legislature taking up the amendment to create an exception for law enforcement officers.

Modern firearms issued to patrol officers generally hold 12 or more rounds of ammunition.

That means that just about all law enforcement officers in New Jersey will be breaking the law if they carry their assigned duty weapons while off duty, including just being home with them, unless they live outside of the state or leave their magazines behind at work, rendering the weapons near-useless.

Bergen County Prosecutor Dennis Calo issued a memorandum to local police officials on Dec. 13 reminding everyone that the prohibition of the possession of large-capacity ammunition magazines also applied to off-duty law enforcement officers.

“The statute now provides that law enforcement officers are not permitted to possess large capacity ammunition magazines, i.e. magazines capable of holding more than ten (10) rounds of ammunition to be fed continuously into semi-automatic firearms, unless while on duty or traveling to or from an authorized place of duty,” the memo read.

“This statute applies to all law enforcement officers, including those subject to on-call status. Violation of this statute constitutes a fourth degree crime,” the memo continued. “There is legislation pending to amend the statute to permit law enforcement officers possession of large capacity magazines. We will keep you informed if and when the statute is amended.”

It was former New York Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik who leaked via a tweet the memo containing the warning to police while condemning the law and court ruling as “insane”:

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To: Starman417

“The law, signed by Gov. Phil Murphy in June”

Nice going New Turdsey....you’ll be conservative frei in no time.


21 posted on 12/19/2018 10:34:17 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneoFormer FBI SA outs Mueller and McCabe over their “unethical” tactics used against Mi)
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To: Starman417

This is not gonna happen folks no matter what laws they pass! No police officer is stupid enough to enforce this law. Wait till a few of them get their heads blown off!


22 posted on 12/19/2018 10:35:22 AM PST by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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To: Starman417

I have no sympathy for anyone who gets killed or injured while trying to enforce this ill considered law.


23 posted on 12/19/2018 10:37:14 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: Starman417
New York Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik

When a former NYCPD commissioner says your anti-gun law is "insane," you know it's really, truly insane.

24 posted on 12/19/2018 10:39:26 AM PST by Campion ((marine dad))
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To: ScottinVA

They need probable cause. e.g. your window is open and a 20 round magazine is laying on the table where they can see it.

Or you’re dumb enough to let them in.

So far, judges are still pretty good at throwing out any evidence that is acquired via an illegal search. Even if said evidence nails you.


25 posted on 12/19/2018 10:44:50 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Starman417
"We conclude that it does not. New Jersey's law reasonably fits the State's interest in public safety and does not unconstitutionally burden the Second Amendment's right to self-defense in the home.

Pardon me, judge, but could you point to the part of the Second Amendment that says it only applies to the home? I'll wait.

26 posted on 12/19/2018 10:49:13 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: atomic_dog

Like a Trump
Bumpersticker.


27 posted on 12/19/2018 10:59:33 AM PST by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: Starman417

Politicians are very brave when they’re not the guy banging on the door.


28 posted on 12/19/2018 11:00:09 AM PST by j.argese (/s tags: If you have a mind unnecessary. If you're a cretin it really doesn't matter, does it?)
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To: Starman417
Misleading Headline!!

Nobody in NJ is knocking on doors just yet.

As far as I can tell, nobody has said they ever will.

As far as I can tell, they don't know which doors to knock on.

29 posted on 12/19/2018 11:01:32 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Starman417
Misleading Headline!!

Nobody in NJ is knocking on doors just yet.

As far as I can tell, nobody has said they ever will.

As far as I can tell, they don't know which doors to knock on.

30 posted on 12/19/2018 11:01:38 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Starman417

Not if they use a phony domestic violence excuse or a “family member” or “neighbor” makes a call.


31 posted on 12/19/2018 11:16:00 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: cuban leaf
"So far, judges are still pretty good at throwing out any evidence that is acquired via an illegal search."

You can't be serious. Where have you been since thew 2016 election.

32 posted on 12/19/2018 11:21:04 AM PST by mosaicwolf
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To: MileHi

Most ccw have far mpre time on the range and are better shots than officers.

They have to be, they dont have prosecutorial immunity shooting at people like cops do. Same if cops hit other people than the target.


33 posted on 12/19/2018 11:21:57 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Starman417

Magazines have no effect upon mass shootings. A video game zombie can learn and perfect a quick magazine change as fast as a soldier. This kind of BS just makes leftards feel good and puts another rip into the Constitution.


34 posted on 12/19/2018 11:24:03 AM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: shanover

I think the Broward school shooter used 10 round mags.


35 posted on 12/19/2018 11:45:31 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Agreed.


36 posted on 12/19/2018 11:47:02 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Starman417

It’s time to start hanging traitors.


37 posted on 12/19/2018 12:16:04 PM PST by semaj (We are the People)
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To: Psalm 73

That depends on the reaction. If the reaction is compliance, more raids continue until the people submit to the king. If the reaction is the opposite then you open up a whole new can of worms. If gun owners choose to form an operating cells and pass on communications about police movements you have the potential for lots of devastating ambushes on law enforcement, especially if they are bunching up for a raid.

If one or two of these raiding teams are slaughtered to a man it will slow or stop this insanity. The sad thing is those who would have to die to end this tyrannical behavior.


38 posted on 12/19/2018 12:18:13 PM PST by sarge83
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To: sarge83

Well, like our Founding Father’s said: “We hang together, or we hang separately”


39 posted on 12/19/2018 12:24:04 PM PST by Psalm 73 ("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area".)
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To: robowombat

“they would probably find something like supporting Krispy Kreme more pressing. “

Idiotic statement.

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40 posted on 12/19/2018 12:28:40 PM PST by Mears
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