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1 posted on 10/23/2019 7:25:24 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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I don’t recall hearing any testimony.


2 posted on 10/23/2019 7:28:36 PM PDT by chris37 (Where's Hunter?)
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BS. I have known sleazy West Point grads. Wesley Clark comes to mind.


3 posted on 10/23/2019 7:28:40 PM PDT by jospehm20
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Bookmark


4 posted on 10/23/2019 7:28:53 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I Love BULL MARKETS!)
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Anybody who didn’t care about Hillary, but cares about this is a useless piece of crap. That is my standard.


5 posted on 10/23/2019 7:29:15 PM PDT by fhayek
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Secret meetings kept from the public because they’re crooked and fabricate “facts” is a loser’s way.


6 posted on 10/23/2019 7:30:30 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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Else where, this same author writes:

Byron York (Washington Examiner) identifies five possible explanations for the temporary withholding of military aid to Ukraine that have been put forth by one party or another. The first three are:

(1) Trump’s general dislike of foreign aid,

(2) his concern that other countries aren’t doing enough,

(3) his general concern about corruption in Ukraine.

All are legitimate, perfectly non-corrupt reasons for withholding aid. However, Trump’s enemies insist they are not the real reasons or, at a minimum, that additional reasons were also in play.

The alleged additional reasons are:

(4) Trump’s desire to see Ukraine assist in an inquiry into matters relating to the investigation of Russia interference in the 2016 campaign and

(5) Trump’s desire to see Ukraine investigate the business dealings of Hunter Biden and actions by Joe Biden to further these interests.

That Trump had these desires seems evident from the unofficial transcript of his famous phone conversation with Ukraine’s president. Whether they were the reasons for the temporary withholding of aid is less clear.

Byron York agrees that motive (5) would be an improper reason for withholding aid. But he disputes that Motive 4 would be the case.

Trump’s desire to see Ukraine assist in the 2016 “investigation of the investigation” was entirely reasonable. . .In fact, some part of the U.S. government has been investigating the 2016 election since at least mid-2016.

There is still an investigation going on — Durham’s — and it would not be unusual for the government to want Ukraine to cooperate. After all, Robert Mueller’s special counsel investigation sought and received the cooperation of several foreign countries. Investigating 2016 is something that has been standard procedure for the last few years.

As to motive (5) — Trump’s desire to investigate the Bidens — Byron makes an important point: Mick Mulvaney unequivocally denied that it factored into the decision to withhold aid. The mainstream media, though, has suggested otherwise.

So, does the evidence so far establish that aid was conditioned on Ukraine investigating the Bidens?

If so, IS THIS IMPEACHABLE?

These are distinctions that have to be made.


7 posted on 10/23/2019 7:30:37 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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But Joe Biden's taped confession isn't troubling at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY&feature=youtu.be

8 posted on 10/23/2019 7:30:44 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats only believe in democracy when they win the election.)
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It is imperative that the trump hold aid in order to insure a corruption investigation. Of Biden in Ukraine.

Biden is not only the next rival for trump he was the enforcer of a corrupt uktrainian Obama alliance to destroy credible American policies.

To not allow and even require this investigation is to institutionalize Democrat party sabotage dating back at least to clinton gore China corruption.


10 posted on 10/23/2019 7:32:10 PM PDT by lonestar67 (America is exceptional)
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OMG, the McCain/Kristol Atlantic Council Deep State endless war purveyor, war with Russia is good, enemy of the people BELIEVED something. We are to remove the President because a piece of excrement believed something.


11 posted on 10/23/2019 7:33:03 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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“Taylor is a West Point grad. He served in Vietnam. He was appointed ambassador to Ukraine by George W. Bush and asked to return to the diplomatic corps as charge d’affaires in Ukraine by Mike Pompeo.”

A classic POS deep state resume. F him...


15 posted on 10/23/2019 7:36:31 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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What testimony is he talking about? We haven’t seen any testimony.


16 posted on 10/23/2019 7:36:37 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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Someday a Republican...or a representative of the President...will be allowed to be physically present during testimony.

Or maybe not.

17 posted on 10/23/2019 7:37:20 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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Whatever their “findings”, shouldn’t be admissible as evidence. Should be thrown out with the trash along with Pelosi.


22 posted on 10/23/2019 7:40:54 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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“How serious an offense is it for a president to withhold aid for a few months because the recipient hasn’t agreed to investigate his political opponent? Pretty serious, in my view.”

IF it was true (it isnt) there isn’t the slightest thing unethical or illegal about it. Nearly every foreign aid package we offer comes with conditions. And the condition of investigating corruption, especially involving Americans, is very mainstream.

The hell with Powerline. The GOPe is coming after us. They better hope they don’t succeed or they might find a very very large group of angry 2nd amendment citizens in their future.


25 posted on 10/23/2019 7:46:24 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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The author Mirengoff touts Taylor’s West Point connection as if that means squat. Al Haig and Fred Buzhardt were classmates at West Point and both helped subvert Nixon. See Silent Coup by Len Colodny.


26 posted on 10/23/2019 7:47:08 PM PDT by Moorka
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The establishment is finally flipping powerline? That’s sad if true. Taylor was compromised. His texts were trying to leave a trail for Dems. He sounded like a Narc wearing a wire. “So, this is a quid prop quo, right?”


27 posted on 10/23/2019 7:49:24 PM PDT by aynrandfreak (Being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry)
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I thought quid pr quo was the essence of foreign relations.


29 posted on 10/23/2019 7:56:24 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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“In 2015, Taylor was appointed executive vice president of the United States Institute of Peace after serving a year in the same role in an acting capacity”


The United States Institute of Peace is a publicly funded national institution chartered by the U.S. government to promote international peace through nonviolent conflict resolution.

But its chairman, Stephen Hadley, is a relentless hawk whose advocacy for greater military intervention often dovetails closely with the interests of Raytheon, a major defense contractor that pays him handsomely as a member of its board of directors.

Hadley, the former national security adviser to President George W. Bush, was an advocate for the 2003 invasion of Iraq and more recently appeared in the media to call for massive airstrikes in Syria. Over the last year, he has called for escalating the conflict in Ukraine.

In a speech at Poland’s Wroclaw Global Forum in June, Hadley argued in favor of arming the Ukrainian government in part because that would “raise the cost for what Russia is doing in Ukraine.” Specifically, he said, “even President Putin is sensitive to body bags — it sounds coarse to say, but it’s true — but body bags of Russian soldiers who have been killed.”

Hadley also called for European governments to broadly boost military spending, ideally doubling it. “You know, let’s show that Europe is going to have real commitment to military forces,” he said.

The call to flood Ukraine with weapons not only contrasts sharply with the stated mission of the Institute of Peace, but many scholars believe doing so would provoke more conflict.”

Just another neocon playground. So this Taylor Bush/Obama tool is lining up with the GOPe in trying to hurt Trump. F him.


30 posted on 10/23/2019 7:57:01 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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So we’re supposed to impeach a president based on what he said he believes in a text???


31 posted on 10/23/2019 8:02:01 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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So we’re supposed to impeach a president based on what he said he believes in a text???


33 posted on 10/23/2019 8:06:14 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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