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Wait Just a Damn Minute: Italian Mortality Figures are WITH, not FROM CoronaCold-19
https://www.barnhardt.biz/ ^ | March 24, 2020 | Ann Barnhardt

Posted on 03/24/2020 9:25:28 PM PDT by fr_freak

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To: Texas Eagle

I wonder if the total death rate in Italy is much different then normal in this month of March....


21 posted on 03/24/2020 9:51:05 PM PDT by cherry (])
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To: exDemMom
Covid-19 is more deadly for people with other health conditions than it is for healthy people.

The same is true of seasonal influenza. For the same underlying health conditions.

22 posted on 03/24/2020 9:51:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (MAGA - 16 more years! - KAG)
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To: cherry

That’s what has been missing from all this. Context.


23 posted on 03/24/2020 9:53:03 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: fr_freak

This has been known as the reason for the disparity between deaths in Italy vs deaths in Germany. Germany does not do post mortem diagnosis like Italy and thus count the underlying illness as the cause of death.


24 posted on 03/24/2020 9:54:36 PM PDT by Mozzafiato
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To: Artcore

So far there are only 600 deaths nationwide which is not killing the numbers they have said. The few we know about had serious lung problems.


25 posted on 03/24/2020 9:59:01 PM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: fr_freak

Which deadly complications of coronavirus do you prefer?

pneumonia (bacterial and viral)
myocarditis
encephalitis
rhabdomyolysis
multi-organ failure
sepsis


26 posted on 03/24/2020 10:00:16 PM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: familyop
There’s no reason to panic and look for reassurance with fake news. We can do this without the hysteria of looking for conspiracy theories.

Face it, and calm down.


Who are you talking to? Ann Barnhardt? I think she has a link on her page if you want to send her a message.
27 posted on 03/24/2020 10:01:14 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: exDemMom

Probably. Unless the modeling that suggests a huge number of people have already been exposed without knowing it.

If that premise is correct, then we shouldn’t be shocked to see people dying from other causes testing positive for Coronavirus post mortem.

Not saying it is true, but given the overall lack of testing worldwide, there is still a chance it could be true.


28 posted on 03/24/2020 10:04:05 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Trump trumps Hate)
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To: fr_freak

29 posted on 03/24/2020 10:08:23 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: fr_freak

I’ve had a Q- bot tell me this virus was planned and it will be used to expose and prosecute an international pedophile ring.


30 posted on 03/24/2020 10:12:54 PM PDT by vpintheak (Leftists are full of "Love, peace" and bovine squeeze.)
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To: fr_freak
According to WorldPopulationReview.com, some 1673 Italians die every day.

So, the question is, did 2200 Italians die yesterday? Asking for a FRiend.

31 posted on 03/24/2020 10:15:25 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: exDemMom

Correct. The difference between immediate and proximate cause of death. My wife died from pulmonary failure brought on by metastatic melanoma.
Antonio in Milano passes from pumonary failure immediate cause pneumonia. Brought on by Corona virus.
The Italian numbers are what they are.


32 posted on 03/24/2020 10:19:58 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: fr_freak

Thanks.


33 posted on 03/24/2020 10:23:29 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: BenLurkin

I didn’t see where she said it was a conspiracy. She certainly seems to be implying that it is, but mostly ol’ Ann is just pointing out that the statistics being presented are unreliable on their face and as such are being misused to show a more dire circumstance than is really happening. Whether that is intentional, or through incompetence, or a conspiracy, well, who knows at this point.


34 posted on 03/24/2020 10:26:53 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: exDemMom

But you miss the point that many—not all- of those would have died without corona virus. Like the guy in PA who fell and hit hi head. In other words, the CV had nothing whatsoever to do with the death, it just happened to be present.


35 posted on 03/24/2020 10:31:54 PM PDT by moonhawk (I need a new tagline.)
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To: fr_freak

Are they doing that here also? I bet they are!!!!


36 posted on 03/24/2020 10:44:42 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: tallyhoe

I was wondering this also I will bet they are saying ALL deaths are virus related you know they have to get those numbers up after all the hysteria created!!!


37 posted on 03/24/2020 10:47:55 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: fr_freak

yes. and how many of these got the Chinese Virus by catching it in a medical setting while getting their other significant medical condition(s) treated?

it’s disingenuous to say the least and no way to run an epidemic.


38 posted on 03/24/2020 10:48:08 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: fr_freak

That is what I have been yelling.

Just because you have CCP-19 doesn’t mean you died from it.


39 posted on 03/24/2020 10:56:27 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: pnut22

Bingo

CCP19 is being over sold...


40 posted on 03/24/2020 10:57:02 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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