If an obese person with high blood pressure and diabetes dies of smoke inhalation in a house fire, do you say “they died of smoke inhalation” or “they died of natural causes”?
It’s just the Flu-Bro
Pneumonia Mortality
Number of deaths: 49,157
Deaths per 100,000 population: 15.1
It is real, but the response is a hoax.
They weren’t “already dying of something else”. Having other conditions does not mean you are dying. People live with those conditions for many years. The death rate in NYC from covid at the peak was 2-3 times the usual death rate of all other causes put together.
I’ve been saying its a hoax since day 1...just designed to “get” President Trump
Oy. Seriously?
I agree questioning this whole thing, but does anyone want anyone they love or care about to go a minute before their time?
We’ve all been had by corrupt Democrats.
People go to nursing homes to die. Sounds harsh, but it’s true. Few live 5 years in a nursing home, for a reason. These folks are at the end of their lives. Many are “circling the drain,” using the quiet black humor med folks use.
When someone is knocking on death’s door, for a variety of reasons...heart disease, 80yo, diabetes, PAD, obese, HBP, it doesn’t take much for them to keep over. Colds kill old folks. The flu does, too. This is no secret.
If we counted “deaths with flu” as “deaths from flu,” the flu deaths estimated each year would probably double, if not triple. Yet that’s how we count all Covid deaths—”deaths WITH covid” are counted the same as “deaths from Covid.”. They are cooking the books.
We don’t actually count actual flu deaths anyway. It’s estimated. Why? It’s no big deal, and not worth the cost to test everyone. Yet flue deaths 2017-2018 numbers are close to projected Covid deaths. (This season)
We’ve been had.
(This season because we are in the 2019-2020 Covid season. Which should officially end in August. Will they start the scoreboard over? Doubt it. Got to keep cooking the books. They’ll continue treating it different and continue to add to the death count in perpetuity, probably)
It acts as a supercharger to those other things you have that *can* kill you.
It's a LOT like HIV in that regard.
I’m in the camp that thinks COVID-19 has been overblown. I think it’s not that different from the flu.
I also think that NYC has declared some deaths to be COVID-19 deaths even though the deceased was verified as a COVID-19 victim (they just “showed signs”) — this clearly inflated their numbers.
I think we over-reacted and trashed our economy for no good reason.
However, all that being said, if someone has health problems, but is chugging along, if something new hits them (such as COVID-19) and that sudden blow is sufficient to kill them, then — while I recognize that the obesity, the diabetes, and the cancer were certainly contributing factors — I don’t actually have a problem with the idea that COVID-19 is what killed them. As long as they test positive for it.
“I read it somewhere...right after I wrote it down.”
We should outlaw blog pimping.
Most NYC “coronavirus deaths” are fake, made up figures.
The CDC and various state governments have asked nursing homes and hospices to search the health records of deceased residents for flu-like symptoms, even if they were never tested for COVID.
If they died with flu-like symptoms, they are “presumed” positive for COVID, and they are classified as COVID fatalities.
This method of counting is completely fraudulent.
The herd doesn’t get it!
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The few GROK it!
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This Blog post blows my mind. If a person who has been living with Cancer for 3 years being treated with no tumor growth and dies from catching the COVID-19, did they die from the Cancer or the virus?
Here is a Real Person example if people are having trouble comprehending the effects of COVID-19:
I personally know of a person (48 years old) who has a tumor that affect their breathing. There is no cure and the tumor cannot be removed. They have been living with the Tumor for 3 years and most likely can live another 10 to 15 years on their medication (Thank you Trump for making this medication available, it is saving a life, another testimonial). Keep in mind the medication was keeping the tumor in check with no growth or spread.
Again: Would it be COVID-19 that kills this person or the Tumor that is not growing or spreading because of monthly medication?
I know a lot of people with this slow growing Cancer called Adenoid cystic carcinoma that are living day to day trying to outrun it..
Thanks for joining us in 2020.
In other news, the “laws of gravity” have been found to be a hoax.
Newton was part of a reptilian conspiracy to keep humans stuck on the ground....
:-(
Maybe you should ask the FReeper who lost his aunt to CCP-19 if it’s a hoax or not.
He should be able to tell you.
There are over 2.8 million deaths in the US each year.
That is over 235K deaths per month.
If the prevalence of the virus, as some early antibody tests on the East and West Coasts have suggested, is about 15%, then you would expect 35k deaths a month from those dying who have or have had the virus in their system.
Not taking into account those deaths caused or co-caused by complications from Covid, which are indeed a real thing.
How ever would we come out of lockup with those kinds of results, given our current counting?