[exDemMom]

Good!

I considered the ACFT test a backdoor way of keeping women out of the Army, since the Army was pressured into opening combat arms fields (and even special forces) to women.

I never personally took the test, and am glad I did not have to do so. Due to medical reasons, I did not take the last two APFT tests before I retired. The last test included a trial ACFT test to see how our unit would perform, thank goodness I did not have to do that!

A young, very fit Soldier complained to me that although she always got maximum score on the APFT, she had absolutely no hope of getting maximum score on the ACFT. The maximum requires dead lifting 340 pounds—out of range of the vast majority of women.

The APFT test takes into account both gender and age. The ACFT is one size fits all.

There really is no reason that women in support MOSs should have to pass the same physical fitness standards as men in combat MOSs. The physical requirements to perform the job are completely different.

And no, the fact that most women fail the ACFT does not demonstrate that women have no place in the military. We do have a place, just not in the combat fields. Women are perfectly capable of fulfilling support roles.

[oldasrocks]

When the whole barracks cycles together it’s prime time to send them into combat.

[PROCON]

And no, the fact that most women fail the ACFT does not demonstrate that women have no place in the military. We do have a place, just not in the combat fields. Women are perfectly capable of fulfilling support roles.

I agree completely, besides other Army MOS's I was Field Artillery 40+ years ago, a very physically demanding field even for men.

(Now go make me a sammich 😎)

[ealgeone]

There really is no reason that women in support MOSs should have to pass the same physical fitness standards as men in combat MOSs.

What is they're in a combat zone one day....not by choice??