[Lonesome in Massachussets]

Older people are more likely to be vaccinated and much, much more likely to die. This data from Minnesota shows that those over 50 are about three times less likely to die of Covid if vaccinated.

[Nathan _in_Arkansas]

I’m not dead, but I’m in the neurologists office right now for side effects from the jab.

If you’re healthy, I’d recommend against it

[Bob434]

I’m not good at math, what does “3 times less likely” to die mean? (Please explain by saying something like “instead of 10 out of a 100 dying, only (this amount) would die”, or something like that please).

(This is why I don’t gamble lol)

[fireman15]

You make a good point. The problem is the easily corrupted data that basically all the “studies” showing that the vaccines are worthwhile are based on.

Yesterday a link to a video that cited a “study” from Texas that showed that young people and children benefitted the most from the “vaccines”. This is of course outrageous since as you pointed out young people and children are known to be affected the least by Covid. We could pick the numbers from the Texas “study” apart and come up with some sort of explanation for this discrepancy. But lets just call it what it is... manipulation of the data through “cherry picking”, incomplete data and intentional exclusion of relevant data. Trying to address each is like playing a game of whack-o-mole. At some point it will be discredited by someone, but we will not see any coverage of that in the media.

Here is a link to the Texas “study”.

https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/data/Cases-and-Deaths-by-Vaccination-Status-11082021.pdf

It says that 18 to 29 year old people are 99 times more likely to die from Covid if they have not been vaccinated. Never mind that their chances of dying from Covid are so low that they likely have a much higher chance of being killed by their own dog.

[Sequoyah101]

Oh well, whatever. Just as long as I am free to make my own choices the data can say whatever anybody wants to believe.

I look at the overall rates and they are not statistically different. Different yes but not by enough to make one whit of difference to me.

Old people die when they get sick. Young people get better. When you stack the deck by protocols that kill old people die more often when they get sick than they did from other things but they all eventually die.

Almost all young healthy people don’t get blood clots or myocarditis. At least they didn’t before these vaccines showed up.

[Steve_Seattle]

One thing that jumps out from your statistics is the small differences in the percentages of hospitalizations and deaths between the vaccinated and unvaccinated groups:

Hospitalizations: Vaccinated: 4.63%; Unvaccinated: 5.11%

Deaths: Vaccinated: .61%; Unvaccinated: .66%

If vaccine injuries causing hospitalizations or deaths for reasons other than Covid-19 were taken into account, the gap might be even lower, or maybe even shift to favor the unvaccinated group. VAERS shows 18,400 vaccine related deaths; 3% of that (an estimate of Minnesota's share) would be 540. VAERS shows 97,000 hospitalizations; 3% of that would be 2,910. And it is likely that VAERS underreports these things.

When assessing the seriousness of the pandemic, far too much emphasis is placed on case counts, the vast majority of which consist of cold-like symptoms of varying degrees.