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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Using the VAERS report to prove anything is dishonest. The VAERS doesn't even claim to be an accurate measure of deaths due to anything.

For example, more than a thousand people file VAERS reports each year claiming Tylenol caused a death.

And, given all the paranoia surrounding the vaccines, it's almost guaranteed that the number of death claims connected to the vaccine is grossly exaggerated.

9 posted on 01/08/2022 5:08:58 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Kazan

—> And, given all the paranoia surrounding the vaccines, it’s almost guaranteed that the number of death claims connected to the vaccine is grossly exaggerated.

Speculation


16 posted on 01/08/2022 5:18:17 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything ᡕᠵ᠊ᡃ࡚ࠢ࠘ ⸝່ࠡࠣ᠊߯᠆ࠣ࠘ᡁࠣ࠘᠊᠊ࠢ࠘𐡏⁻ )
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To: Kazan

So, Mr. Vacinne-Junky, is accurate adverse reaction data being collected?

Would you consider the accurate collection of such data to be a primary responsibility of the purveyors of the vaccine?


32 posted on 01/08/2022 5:47:28 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong [FJB])
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To: Kazan
Using the VAERS report to prove anything is dishonest. The VAERS doesn't even claim to be an accurate measure of deaths due to anything.

And why was VAERs created?
The FDA gave 'immunity' to Pharmaceutical companies from vaccine damage lawsuits, and they said that they'd have vaccine damage tracked through VAERS.
So take it up with the FDA and CDC for creating a dishonest system that does not track vaccine induced damage.
And also note that Harvard performed a study a few years back that concluded that VAERS undercounts vaccine damage events by two orders of magnitude (100X). It apparently takes half an hour (if not more) to enter a complaint into the VAERS system, and most people aren't going to go through this trouble.
So sure, VAERS is undoubtedly inaccurate - but it is most likely undercounting events by 'a lot' (be it 10X, 100X, or whatever).
I agree it is 'dishonest' to not have the CDC accurately track these events, but since they have financial ties to the pharmaceutical companies - they aren't going to blow the whistle. They have swallowed the whistle. And they send out their minions (media, big state soldiers, etc) to attempt to squash any mention of damage due to these CoVid shots.
We need an 'honest' system of tracking this information, and the CDC (or any other Government agency) has no interest in creating an honest system - so VAERs is it (today), and you need to take into account some undercounting factor. You can go to Steve Kirsch's website (skirsch.io) and review his estimate of the undercounting factor (I believe it was 40x). At least he gives his rationale, and his attempt to perform an honest accounting of this important metric.

34 posted on 01/08/2022 5:52:45 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Kazan

For example, more than a thousand people file VAERS reports each year claiming Tylenol caused a death.

That is incorrect. VAERS is only for reporting vaccine adverse reactions, not general drug adverse reactions.


35 posted on 01/08/2022 5:54:47 PM PST by Flick Lives
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To: Kazan
And, given all the paranoia surrounding the vaccines, it's almost guaranteed that the number of death claims connected to the vaccine is grossly exaggerated.

How many would be too many?

Johns Hopkins Team: There Are Still ZERO Covid Deaths Among Healthy Kids Jul 21, 2021

37 posted on 01/08/2022 6:05:40 PM PST by TigersEye (Ray Epps didn't kill himself.)
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To: Kazan

I would say your wrong, the fact is the real numbers may be worse. Even if accepting the VAERS report that would indicate the vaccines should be pulled from the market, especially with over 21,000 deaths.


40 posted on 01/08/2022 6:16:53 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood (https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3804407/posts?q=1)
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To: Kazan

It is guaranteed the most of the covid deaths are exaggerated.


41 posted on 01/08/2022 6:22:21 PM PST by roving
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To: Kazan

...given all the paranoia surrounding the vaccines, ...
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That’s good, old-fashioned, free-floating paranoia? No reasons, nothing untoward happening, right?

People are paranoid because of what they observe and experience IRL.


47 posted on 01/08/2022 6:40:11 PM PST by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: Kazan

How to verify for yourself that over 150,000 Americans have been killed by the COVID vaccines
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/how-to-verify-for-yourself-that-over


49 posted on 01/08/2022 7:13:26 PM PST by Qiviut ("Don't let your children die on the hill you refuse to fight on.")
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