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Biden’s Department Of Energy Targets ANOTHER Popular Home Appliance
Clash Daily ^ | August 7, 2023 | K. Walker

Posted on 08/08/2023 8:37:53 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

This whole part of the Dep Of Energy must by law be reduced to nothing more legally demanding as a consumer reports set of recommendations, as in “Good”, “Better” and “Best” ratings that by law can be imposed on no one individual or company. Let the consumer decide.


21 posted on 08/08/2023 9:13:35 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Red Badger
What is up with these people and the regulations?

Control, plain and simple.

22 posted on 08/08/2023 9:27:47 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: Red Badger

Amazon has a 40” ceiling fan with 23 watt built in LED light. Total energy usage is 47 watts.

A 16” oscillating fan uses 60 watts.

These things aren’t our energy hogs or our polluters.


23 posted on 08/08/2023 9:35:10 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Red Badger
They don’t get tumbled enough if you put too much in.......

So it is the same concept as the double flush toilet. It is hard to see how they would work as commercial washing machines when time is money..

24 posted on 08/08/2023 9:36:08 AM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: Red Badger

I have 7 ceiling fans scattered throughout the house. Thankfully I replaced all of them the past two years. But the time I have to replace again (18 years from now). All the transition and quirks will be done. It’s always a bad idea to buy a new “improved” item. Wait a few years if you can.


25 posted on 08/08/2023 9:45:02 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: Red Badger

We had to replace our old Kenmore washing machine last year, so we went with the simplest Speed Queen top loader we could find. It does a good wash on big loads and spins them much drier than the old machine did. A Speed Queen costs more than a lot of other washers, but we’re hoping it will last a good long while.


26 posted on 08/08/2023 9:45:54 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Red Badger

bttt


27 posted on 08/08/2023 9:47:16 AM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Never be slave in a new Socialist America)
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To: Lockbox

No Electricity comes from solar panels, windmills, and unicorn farts.

Mostly unicorn farts.

None of these pollute during production or generate huge piles of unrecyclable waste ...


28 posted on 08/08/2023 9:48:28 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Red Badger

Brushless DC motors are highly efficient compared to a standard induction motor. They also last much longer. However, the cost of the fan will be about double.

If one wanted real efficiency the fan blade itself should be like an airfoil of an airplane and have a brushless DC motor. A flat blade causes much more turbulence across the blade that represents wasted energy. The noise you hear when running a fan at high speed is all turbulence.

If offered I would buy such a fan despite the higher cost. I sure as hell do not want the government telling me I MUST BY IT!


29 posted on 08/08/2023 9:49:02 AM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter-deckhand-roughneck-geologist- instructor pilot-almost chemist-pharmacist-retired.)
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To: EVO X

I was expecting to have to flush twice with my toilets. But they are a strong flush even though it saves water. I was surprised.


30 posted on 08/08/2023 9:49:17 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

I have speed queen top load washer, front hanper door load dryer, both little over 30 years old I paid extra ($40?) to have stainless tubs. had no computer controls just switches/knobs..only repair -dryer new belt and pads that support front of drum, washer new water pump. and pump and spin belt.


31 posted on 08/08/2023 9:52:27 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Red Badger

Rules are laws and laws belong to legislators. This has to stop!


32 posted on 08/08/2023 9:55:01 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (Ephesians 6:10 - 18)
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To: Noumenon
I have both A/C and natural gas forced air heat. Three rooms have ceiling fans with light fixtures. Spring/Fall are mild requiring little A/C or heat. June/July drives inside house temperatures to 80F plus. I use the A/C to keep the household (including dogs/cats) comfortable. The leading edge of Fall and trailing edge of Spring are annoying. Overnight temps in the 30s/40s. Daytime temps 85+. It's hard to split the difference. It's heating season from early October to early May.
33 posted on 08/08/2023 9:55:22 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: caseinpoint
The WEF acolytes have a very elitist point of view. They say that they only need a few of the current living humans to serve their needs. The remainder need to be eliminated. WEF is destroying energy, food, water resources and pushing depopulation "vaccinations" to achieve their objectives. Pushing for a full NATO/Russian nuclear exchange will help speed up their depopulation goals.
34 posted on 08/08/2023 9:59:36 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Red Badger

The ruling class just want us Plebes to eat bugs and algae, tolerate heat and cold the old fashion way by putting on or taking off layers of cloths, and live in “15-minute city refers to a place where all the necessities of daily life - shops, schools, workplaces, doctor’s offices, parks, libraries, restaurants and other amenities - are located in a short 15-minute walk or bike ride from home. They of course have 20’000 sq ft mansions heated by gas and cooled by AC, ride around in their gas guzzling limos and fly around in their “wife owned” private jets to the latest climate change symposium.


35 posted on 08/08/2023 10:02:47 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: Noumenon

I am not giving up my natural gas collection device. Never.


36 posted on 08/08/2023 10:06:04 AM PDT by jimbug
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To: PGR88

Well I want to know if the rank and file dems agree with this mess.


37 posted on 08/08/2023 10:07:12 AM PDT by Karoo
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To: napscoordinator

“”””I was expecting to have to flush twice with my toilets. But they are a strong flush even though it saves water. I was surprised.””””

I like mine also but what the left does that is so costly, destructive, and wasteful is that some office people decide on a standard and then impose it on the industry, the industry then has to comply to standards that they can’t do at the time.

As a plumbing contractor, I saw the ‘lousy to mediocre’ 3.5 standard toilets come into play first and then the ‘impossible for years’ standard of 1.6 toilets.

America wasted billions of dollars replacing new and barely used lousy toilets and we plumbers filled the landfills with the failures, not to mention the countless service calls and the customer’s inconvenience of rightfully unexpected stoppages, and some people are probably still living with the lousy versions that filled the market for many years.

We see this over and over, with appliances and electric cars, all things that will probably be OK eventually but it looks like the standards created by office bureaucrats are going to just keep reaching for the stars while we mere engineers and contractors, manufacturers, and users are still earth-bound to reality limitations.


38 posted on 08/08/2023 10:46:19 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Red Badger

Whatsa HE washer? Did you assign a pronoun to an inanimate object?


39 posted on 08/08/2023 10:56:10 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore)
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To: Cobra64

We have hit an appliance where to cost vs savings may actually work if the new model lasts 50 years, low RPM single phase motors are unduly bad on the power factor scale. I slap new blades on 40+ year old fans about once decade.

Honestly a motion and temperature activated switch might be the best. My wife has never met a fan she failed to turn off.

The payback for a 160W nominal 4 foot ceiling fan over a 50 year lifetime just might work out. I will suspect the new fans will look like the old fans and the Printed Circuit boards will degrade and power caps will be blown out in less than 15 years.

There just isnt a lot left in peoples homes that can save power. Sitting watching a OLED flat screen, PC that consumes 9W, in a heat pump cooled or heated house, with a insulated water heater and dishwasher and clotheswasher that takes hours to cycle. We are down to walwarts and dad problems. I will kill a platoon of EPA police when they come after the on demand water heater.


40 posted on 08/08/2023 11:18:21 AM PDT by protoconservative (Been Conservative Before You Were Born )
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