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Meat Grinder: Ukraine Now Losing 800 Men a Day – “We Lost 3 Leopards Because They Were Told to Drive into a Minefield
Gateway Pundit ^

Posted on 08/19/2023 12:34:02 PM PDT by MNDude

The massacre of Ukrainian conscripts continues in the pointless US proxy war on the Ukraine Front, with over 800 casualties a day in the last five days, according to Russian claims. Even ABC had to admit that Ukraine has been taking “heavy casualties in its counteroffensive.“

On August 4, the Russian Ministry of Defense claimed that Ukraine had suffered 43,000 casualties in the first two months of the “counter-offensive”, as Gateway reported. Since then, Ukraine has lost at least 10,000 additional men, according to the daily figures released by the Russian Ministry of Defense. The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense does not release casualties

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To: ansel12
Ukraine starts drafting reservists aged 18-60 after president's order"
Source: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-starts-drafting-reservists-aged-18-60-after-presidents-order-2022-02-23/

Drafting reservists. Usually that means "drafting reservists."

41 posted on 08/19/2023 4:12:27 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: MNDude
I'm ignoring the numbers because I think they're inaccurate. Zelensky need to ask for a cease fire with Russia. Let Putin keep their land bridge to Crimea.

Zelensky will ask for Polish peacekeepers in Ukraine.

That's my proposal.

42 posted on 08/19/2023 4:15:17 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: DesertRhino; Worldtraveler once upon a time

“”””Imagine being 59 and being drafted. And 59 in Ukraine is not the same as 59 here in America.””””

It is called mobilizing a reservist or calling him up, I don’t know why Reuters would call it drafting him.

The Russians don’t stop at calling up 60-year-old reservists, they can call up 70-year-olds.


43 posted on 08/19/2023 4:18:27 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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--- Terminology seems very important to you. For the "59 year old," mobilized or drafted or called up all comes to the same thing.

Ukes and Ruskies, alike, this is a mess. Splitting linguistic hairs. Hurrah for you.

44 posted on 08/19/2023 4:25:16 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: MNDude

Marxists in America have no problem rearming America with new weapons by using a Government accounting tick called military aid. Send the old stuff and buy new. Marxists don’t care about your life. Neocons and NATO-CONS have joined the Obama Biden Marxists to wage a war so DOD gets its next generation of equipment getting Ukrainians killed all the while weakening or hoping to do so to Russia.

The morale angle these creatons are using is democracy yet they are authorians by their own actions at home.

Ukraine has a Coup in 2014 and immediately secretly switches from a neutral nation to a NATO proxy.

The joke isn’t funny yet so many duped Biden lovers yak about democracy... ha they jess.


45 posted on 08/19/2023 4:32:13 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

I’ve been eligible for the draft, I have been Regular Army, I have been in the Reserves, and I have been in the National Guard, I have never heard a Reservist or Guard member being called to active duty called being drafted.

Joining the Reserves or being in the Reserves after your time as active duty removes you from the draft and sets up a new type of military obligation.

Look at Russia calling up 70-year-old Reservists, they aren’t draftees.


46 posted on 08/19/2023 4:34:23 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: canuck_conservative

Weep when Russia carves up 30% more of Ukraine while surrounding or destroying them. See my previous comment to understand how aid to Ukraine rearms the US Military.

No honor left.


47 posted on 08/19/2023 4:36:14 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: ansel12
An odd little tale, there. Regular Army, the Reserves which is a federal obligation, and the National Guard, a state obligation. Or reverse order?

I was eligible AND drafted, learning thereby to think ill thoughts of LBJ, and after active served in the Army National Guard.

Really won't quibble with you about terminology, because one wanders off into the weeds rather quickly. Your quibble is with Reuters. Kyiv Post and Guardian UK use the term, "conscription."

You quibbled with another about "calling up some reservists 18 to 60 ." But "all physically-fit Ukrainian men aged 18-60 are potentially subject to conscription" is not "calling up," but conscripting. Don't like it? Quibble with the Kyiv Post.

Conscription.

And yes, about Russia as one reads: "July 18 (Reuters) - Russia's parliament on Tuesday extended the maximum age at which men can be mobilised to serve in the army by at least five years - in the case of the highest-ranking officers, up to the age of 70." And... "The new law means that those from this reserve with the highest ranks can now be called back into service up to the age of 70 rather than 65, other senior ranks up to 65, junior officers up to 60 - and all others up to the age of 55 rather than 45."

Source: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-extends-eligibility-military-call-up-by-least-five-years-2023-07-18/

Sounds to me like thuggish behavior by two non-NATO nations involved in an "officially" non-NATO war. Regular, non-com Russians to 55, and conscripted Ukrainians to serve as regular troops to 60. Sounds like a lot of people are losing. Furthering this thing makes that a certainty.

48 posted on 08/19/2023 6:59:58 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

What I have posted is correct, Ukraine can call up Reservists up to age 60 and Russia can call up Reservists to age 70.

I made sure that I had beat the draft and had a permanent deferment before I enlisted in the Army.

A writer confusing being drafted with being a Reservist called to active duty is a sign of our times, I think our Reservist Army Special Forces, Navy SEALs, Marines, and everyone else would mock you if you thought them being called to active service meant they were being “drafted”.


49 posted on 08/19/2023 7:16:44 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12
Your skin is thin. Your statements are often half-truths, even when citations of news articles are presented.

The title of two of the news articles used the word "conscripted."

As is, "The Selective Service System, otherwise known as the military draft or conscription...." In "Everything You Need to Know About the Military Draft"

Source: https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/everything-you-need-know-about-military-selective-service-system.html

"In the United States, military conscription, commonly known as the draft, has been employed by the U.S. federal government in six conflicts: the American Revolutionary War, the American Civil War, World War I, World War II, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War." In "Conscription in the United States"

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_the_United_States

"Conscription, the Republic, and America's Future"

Source: https://www.army.mil/article/31118/conscription_the_republic_and_americas_future

"Since the Civil War, conscription (“the draft”) of registered males has been used to meet military personnel needs at various times in U.S. history" in "FY2023 NDAA: Selective Service and Draft Registration "

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IN/IN11973

"Since the end of military conscription in the United States, Hicks said, more than 11 million have joined active-duty service"

Source: https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3316678/all-volunteer-force-proves-successful-for-us-military/

Words seem important to you, but you are using them incorrectly. And then making a big deal out of it.

Your "Reservist Army Special Forces, Navy SEALs, Marines, and everyone else would mock" me need to get past the Army, SSA, Congress, and the Defense Department -- as above and cited with URLs -- to evn begin to get through my tough skin.

50 posted on 08/19/2023 7:40:04 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

You do ramble on with a lot of nonsense but being drafted is different from being a Reservist called to active duty, as one who had to be drafted you should know that.


51 posted on 08/19/2023 7:44:41 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12
Snide.

Little and illiterate.

Sources a plenty, so you choose the personal route.

52 posted on 08/19/2023 7:48:12 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: MNDude
this is how TPTB want it...have continuous wars, kill off the young and brave men, and no progeny....

Nam war resulted in such a bunch of sissy men sadly..many of the good genes were left on the battlefied.

53 posted on 08/19/2023 7:48:22 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Which one told us about Army Reservists being drafted after they are already in the Army Reserves?


54 posted on 08/19/2023 7:55:44 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Videos are everywhere.


55 posted on 08/19/2023 8:54:53 PM PDT by MarMema (Eat your bananas, enjoy the decline)
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To: MarMema

Verified videos of 18 to 60-year-old men being randomly drafted into the armed forces of Ukraine from off the streets?


56 posted on 08/19/2023 9:14:53 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnw2Abqmu64


57 posted on 08/19/2023 9:34:22 PM PDT by MarMema (Eat your bananas, enjoy the decline)
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To: ansel12

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58 posted on 08/19/2023 9:37:12 PM PDT by MarMema (Eat your bananas, enjoy the decline)
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To: ansel12

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2023/january/25/zelenskyy-regime-to-forcibly-conscript-hungarians-in-transcarpathia/


59 posted on 08/19/2023 9:39:20 PM PDT by MarMema (Eat your bananas, enjoy the decline)
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To: ansel12

Sorry. Bad link.

https://youtu.be/e0sQxiLrnOQ


60 posted on 08/19/2023 9:42:01 PM PDT by MarMema (Eat your bananas, enjoy the decline)
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