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What it takes to get banned from FR? (Vanity)
None | Today | CSM

Posted on 11/18/2003 10:20:36 AM PST by CSM

Given the rumors and speculation regarding banning of individuals from FR, I took the suggestion of another poster to start a thread around the topic. I have gone back and reread the rules and the specific speculation of posting to one type of thread or posting one type of article only is not called out as against the rules.

So, outside of the rules, what constitutes being banned or suspended from posting on FR?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Free Republic Policy/Q&A
KEYWORDS: banning
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1 posted on 11/18/2003 10:20:38 AM PST by CSM
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To: jmc813; dennisw
Here ya go.
2 posted on 11/18/2003 10:21:03 AM PST by CSM (Stop the MF today!!! (Flurry, 11/06/2003))
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To: Wolfie; vin-one; WindMinstrel; philman_36; Beach_Babe; jenny65; AUgrad; Xenalyte; Bill D. Berger; ..
WOD Ping
3 posted on 11/18/2003 10:26:08 AM PST by jmc813 (Michael Schiavo is a bigger scumbag than Bill Clinton)
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To: steve50
ping
4 posted on 11/18/2003 10:26:44 AM PST by jmc813 (Michael Schiavo is a bigger scumbag than Bill Clinton)
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To: Wolfie; vin-one; WindMinstrel; philman_36; Beach_Babe; jenny65; AUgrad; Xenalyte; Bill D. Berger; ..
For those of you who may not be aware, the FReeper in question on this thread is MrLeroy. He was a friend to many FReepers for a number of years and was always known as a voice of reason on threads, regardless of how out of control others flame-wars went. You can view his most recent posts at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/site/user-posts?name=mrleroy and judge for yourself if there is anything remotely objectionable there.

If you feel otherwise, please POLITELY request to the management that MrLeroy be re-instated. Thanks for your help.

5 posted on 11/18/2003 10:33:33 AM PST by jmc813 (Michael Schiavo is a bigger scumbag than Bill Clinton)
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To: jmc813
I don't see anything in the recent posts that seems out of line. I've had my differences with him in the past over his tendency to waste bandwidth by "feeding the trolls", but AFAIK that's not a posting violation.
6 posted on 11/18/2003 10:42:31 AM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: CSM
Fat ankles and a pantsuit. Prejudice saves time.
7 posted on 11/18/2003 10:43:00 AM PST by freedomlover
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To: jmc813; Admin Moderator
After reading MrLeRoy's posts, I cannot see a reason he was banned. Please allow him to have his posting priviledges back.

He always kept his calm when others were going crazy in the War on some Drugs threads. I'm not sure what the infraction was, but after perusing his posts on FR, it would have to have been an isolated incident.

Thank you for the consideration.
8 posted on 11/18/2003 10:44:23 AM PST by eyespysomething
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To: jmc813
Bump. I'd like to see what got him tossed myself. I never saw anything out of line from him.
9 posted on 11/18/2003 10:44:29 AM PST by steve50
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To: tacticalogic
waste bandwidth

Please...the amount of bandwidth transferred for posts is minimal as text is a miniscule amount of data per character.

10 posted on 11/18/2003 10:45:42 AM PST by xrp
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To: xrp; Admin Moderator
Bump to let MrLeroy back aboard! He was NOT a rules violator of any sort as far as I could ever see. I would LOVE to hear from YOU, AM, as to WHY he was either banned or suspended.
11 posted on 11/18/2003 10:52:03 AM PST by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.")
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To: CSM
What it takes to get banned from FR?

Depends on who you are. Next question.

12 posted on 11/18/2003 10:58:36 AM PST by Sir Gawain (The Koran...when you're out of toilet paper, Allah is there for you.)
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To: xrp
Please...the amount of bandwidth transferred for posts is minimal as text is a miniscule amount of data per character.

"Bandwidth" in the context of a given thread, and trolls do seem to like their graphics.

13 posted on 11/18/2003 11:04:09 AM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: jmc813; Admin Moderator
Free MrLeRoy! I never saw him violate the posting guidelines.
14 posted on 11/18/2003 11:08:47 AM PST by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: jmc813
Quite frankly, given the dearth of drug threads since "you know who's" been gone (though he did sneak back a few times), I find myself surfing around FR instead of wasting time "providing evidence for my claims".

Don't you notice the difference?

15 posted on 11/18/2003 11:09:06 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
It's usually not at all difficult to provide evidence for valid claims. When claims are unsupported by actual evidence, it's all the circumlocution and rhetorical artifice to make them appear valid that takes effort, but not so much hunting down whatever tangential fact might be distorted to appear as evidence.

Just an observation! ;^)

16 posted on 11/18/2003 11:13:26 AM PST by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: robertpaulsen
Maybe if he had an FR radio show at one time, he could abuse forum rules. It works for others! lol
17 posted on 11/18/2003 11:16:07 AM PST by Sir Gawain (The Koran...when you're out of toilet paper, Allah is there for you.)
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To: tacticalogic
"Bandwidth" in the context of a given thread, and trolls do seem to like their graphics.

Graphics are pulled from their source, not from Free Republic, unless the images are hosted off of http://www.freerepublic.com/ and virtually all are not.

If the admins were worried about bandwidth from images, then they would crush every Anna Kournikova thread.

18 posted on 11/18/2003 11:19:16 AM PST by xrp
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To: AntiGuv
"It's usually not at all difficult"

It's not? Provide evidence for your claim that it's "not at all difficult".

Of course I'm kidding.

19 posted on 11/18/2003 11:20:12 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Don't you notice the difference?

Not really. You drug warriors still fail to provide evidence and never will logically answer (or even simply answer in some warriors' cases) questions related to the discussion.

20 posted on 11/18/2003 11:20:40 AM PST by xrp
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To: jmc813; Admin Moderator
I support the return of MrLeRoy. He didn't do anything wrong, did he?
21 posted on 11/18/2003 11:21:21 AM PST by xrp
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To: robertpaulsen
touché!
22 posted on 11/18/2003 11:29:25 AM PST by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: robertpaulsen
Do you feel his banning was warranted?
23 posted on 11/18/2003 11:34:35 AM PST by jmc813 (Michael Schiavo is a bigger scumbag than Bill Clinton)
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To: xrp
If the admins were worried about bandwidth from images, then they would crush every Anna Kournikova thread.

Maybe we should have a few of the admins try running from dialup connections for a while. ;)

24 posted on 11/18/2003 11:37:17 AM PST by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: CSM
As far as I know, Mr. LeRoy did nothing to get himself banned, nor---also as far as I know---has a Moderator yet put the reason he got banned anywhere in print. Mr. LeRoy was very anti-W.o.D., but he was always well-reasoned and rational about it. He seldom, if ever, attacked anyone personally to the point of flaming. He was also one of the best anti-W.o.D. posters on Free Republic; as good as Roscoe is on the pro-W.o.D. side.
25 posted on 11/18/2003 11:48:00 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: robertpaulsen
Always a good quality in a discussion board, eh? Eliminate those that disagree with you and you don't have to disagree.
26 posted on 11/18/2003 11:48:21 AM PST by jayef
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To: Hemingway's Ghost; admin
I find it curious that some of the most abusive posters on this topic still maintain their privleges, while one of the more rational people on FreeRepublic gets banned. What gives admins?
27 posted on 11/18/2003 11:50:39 AM PST by jayef
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To: tacticalogic
"Maybe we should have a few of the admins try running from dialup connections..."

Actually, if the admins are monitoring ... is there a tool that gives you some idea of just how much 'bandwidth' a given link or whatever might consume before one clicks on it?

It could save some of us a lot of time...

28 posted on 11/18/2003 11:50:43 AM PST by NicknamedBob (I wouldn't be judgmental, if people weren't so STUPID!)
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To: jmc813
The number of threads were starting to get out of hand.

Even the last one by groob -- what's with that? A week old announcement of a LEAP appearance at a college in NH?

There's some interesting breaking news.

29 posted on 11/18/2003 11:50:46 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
The number of threads were starting to get out of hand.

I think there are way too many "sodomites are evil" posts on FR. Know what I do? Ignore them.

30 posted on 11/18/2003 11:53:40 AM PST by jmc813 (Michael Schiavo is a bigger scumbag than Bill Clinton)
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To: tacticalogic
Maybe we should have a few of the admins try running from dialup connections for a while. ;)

Of course there is the option to disable the showing of images in web browsers.

31 posted on 11/18/2003 12:00:41 PM PST by xrp
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To: jmc813
"Know what I do? Ignore them."

Part of the problem?

I mean, if I were running a board I'd want people partaking in the discussion, rather than ignoring the whole thread because a bunch of numbnuts are goin' at each other and every other post is marked, "Comment removed by moderator".

32 posted on 11/18/2003 12:02:09 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Admin Moderator
Bump for MrLeroy..
33 posted on 11/18/2003 12:03:24 PM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: robertpaulsen
I mean, if I were running a board I'd want people partaking in the discussion, rather than ignoring the whole thread because a bunch of numbnuts are goin' at each other and every other post is marked, "Comment removed by moderator".

Then why not support the banning of pro-WOD and anti-WOD FReepers who perpetuate this kind of discourse rather than LeRoy?

34 posted on 11/18/2003 12:05:08 PM PST by jmc813 (Michael Schiavo is a bigger scumbag than Bill Clinton)
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To: jmc813
Maybe because this discourse usually occurred on his threads? I don't know. One of life's mysteries.
35 posted on 11/18/2003 12:09:48 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
I don't know. One of life's mysteries.

I'm glad to see that you're baffled as to why LeRoy was banned as well.

36 posted on 11/18/2003 12:22:20 PM PST by jmc813 (Michael Schiavo is a bigger scumbag than Bill Clinton)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost; robertpaulsen
as good as Roscoe is on the pro-W.o.D. side

You have got to be kidding!

All Roscoe ever does is post "cut and pastes" of court rulings justifying WOD excesses, especially with respect to Commerce Clause abuses by the feds. And he never gives his opinion about them - he just automatically contradicts in a "bot"-like manner anything that the anti-WOD side states. robertpaulsen is at least tolerable: he at least makes cogent arguments to support his pro-WOD case, however wrong he may happen to be.

Oh, and by the way, bring back MrLeRoy!!

37 posted on 11/18/2003 12:44:35 PM PST by bassmaner (Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
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To: bassmaner; Roscoe
All Roscoe ever does is post "cut and pastes" of court rulings justifying WOD excesses, especially with respect to Commerce Clause abuses by the feds.

Compared with the morons we have on the pro-WOD side nowadays (rp excluded), I would LOVE to see Roscoe back. Besides, he didn't drink the Arnold kool-aid, so he can't be all that bad.

38 posted on 11/18/2003 12:48:35 PM PST by jmc813 (Michael Schiavo is a bigger scumbag than Bill Clinton)
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To: Admin Moderator
Admin Moderator,

Count me among those who are curious as to why Mr. LeRoy was banned. I certainly did not read all of his posts, but I found those that I did read to be thoughtful, well-reasoned and consistent with FR rules and general overall message board etiquette.

I respectfully request that Mr. LeRoy be reinstated. Thank you for your consideration....

39 posted on 11/18/2003 1:12:39 PM PST by be-baw
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To: Sir Gawain
What are you, 15 years old?
40 posted on 11/18/2003 1:21:12 PM PST by stands2reason (What you see at fight club is a generation of men raised by women. ~Chuck Palahniuk)
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To: stands2reason
What I say is true. Get over it.
41 posted on 11/18/2003 1:26:10 PM PST by Sir Gawain (The Koran...when you're out of toilet paper, Allah is there for you.)
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To: jmc813
To give LeRoy credit, he was always more civil to me than I was to him. He was a polite enough poster. He was not a complainer. He should just broaden his horizons beyond the WOD. It's ridiculous to make the WOD your main political thrust.
42 posted on 11/18/2003 1:56:59 PM PST by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: robertpaulsen
So you prefer that he be banned rather than you exercise restraint by not visiting the drug threads he posts? :)

43 posted on 11/18/2003 2:09:05 PM PST by ellery
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To: jmc813; Admin Moderator
Mr LeRoy's posts have provided a valuable information source for discussing a very important problem in today's society. I can't see anything abusive about any of his post's. I respectfully request that Mr Leroy be reinstated.
44 posted on 11/18/2003 2:10:27 PM PST by LPM1888 (What are the facts? Again and again and again -- what are the facts? - Lazarus Long)
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To: CSM; Admin Moderator; jmc813
I hope management will reconsider and reinstate Mr. LeRoy -- people who post lots of articles benefit this site, IMHO.
45 posted on 11/18/2003 2:10:52 PM PST by ellery
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To: CSM; Admin Moderator
Free Mr. LeRoy!
46 posted on 11/18/2003 2:45:15 PM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: ellery
"So you prefer that he be banned rather than you exercise restraint by not visiting the drug threads he posts?"

There you go. I need someone else to make these decisions for me, being so weak-willed and all.

Actually, I couldn't care less one way or the other. It wasn't my idea (or my doing) to suspend his account to begin with.

Interesting that you call for his return, not knowing the reason for his suspension.

47 posted on 11/18/2003 2:55:15 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: CSM
After repeatly being told by Jim to stop certain behaviors or posting a lot of vanities that trash this site, is one way.
48 posted on 11/18/2003 2:56:41 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: xrp
You are correct. We don't worry about bandwidth as mods. We do get complaints about load time on threads that have too many graphics though. We might remove a post, or modify the body of a thread if it's a hugh problem. Remember the trial host FR link to store pictures a couple years ago? That was eating up bandwidth.
49 posted on 11/18/2003 3:02:55 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: xrp
Moderators do not ban long time posters. That decision is completely up to Jim.
50 posted on 11/18/2003 3:04:04 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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