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Carry and Ammunition Suggestions for Condition Orange (Freeper Suggestions-Vanity)
The Usual Suspects ^ | 12/21/2003 | Section9

Posted on 12/21/2003 5:21:45 PM PST by section9

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To: meyer
http://www.vettechick.com/glock27.htm

Good choice is the one that works for the individual that has the responsibility of using it to protect life. Vettechick likes it too........:o)

Stay Safe Meyer !
121 posted on 12/21/2003 7:40:12 PM PST by Squantos (Support Mental Health !........or........ I'LL KILL YOU !!!!)
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To: yarddog
"Still I would about as soon have a .22lr as anything less than a 9mm.

I see your point. 22's have their place, IMO. The good Dr's experience proves this; he might have left that little revolver where it was as an afterthought just because it was cheap. (I can't help but wonder if "someone" suggested it to him...) I gave my elderly dad my Taurus .22wmr revolver, and I'm toying with the idea of one of the little .22wmr revolvers from NAA, myself. "Have a gun..."

122 posted on 12/21/2003 7:40:45 PM PST by OKSooner
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To: yarddog
plenty about people being shot with a .25 in the arm and dying quickly.

Probably struck the bone and traveled up into the lung.

My best friend was shot in the elbow, he died in hospital, bullet had gone into his lung, EMTs didn't realize it, 9mm.
123 posted on 12/21/2003 7:41:51 PM PST by tet68
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To: yarddog
Oh, yeah, one other thing. The Dr. and his wife are devout Christians, denomination unknown. Someone had told me that his congregation was taking a collection to buy him a .357! LOL!
124 posted on 12/21/2003 7:42:47 PM PST by OKSooner
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To: Eaker
You must be from the school of folks who don't like a weapon that fires when you pull the trigger.

I was responding to this and not your advantage, I understand that. But the "if it ain't a Glock you can't depend on it" just ain't true in all weapons. I'm glad you like your Glock, but their are others out there just a good.

BigMack

125 posted on 12/21/2003 7:43:13 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: section9
Keltec P-32 is very light, small, and easily concealed without spoiling comfort. Take it to the mall, the movies, or wherever you might be lucky enough to get to gundown a terrorist.

Happy hunting! =) (*sarcasm*)

126 posted on 12/21/2003 7:45:00 PM PST by YoungKentuckyConservative
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To: CholeraJoe
I always thought the bigger bird shot would be a guaranteed hit and the buck shot would finish up if necessary...
127 posted on 12/21/2003 7:45:00 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace (I'm from the government and I'm here to help.)
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To: meyer
stagger with what?
128 posted on 12/21/2003 7:45:18 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace (I'm from the government and I'm here to help.)
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To: yarddog
Bump...
129 posted on 12/21/2003 7:45:26 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: section9
Oooooh, a gun thread! Cool...

My personal advice - and it is personal - is to own a variety of the little darlings and carefully evaluate the likely scenarios you will be facing before leaving home. Decide on the correct combination of punch and concealability. Then carry the next bigger one.

The real trick is to practice with them all.

Today I practiced with one of my carry pieces, a Kahr 9mm, and one of my warguns, (my baby, oh, yeah,) a .45ACP Kimber. Between these two guns the breaking point is at just about 20 meters - that's as far as a 2 1/2 inch barrel will give me A-zone hits reliably 100% of the time. Beyond that Mister Kimber is just warming up. The difference is another 2 1/2 inches of barrel and a lot of weight. But if you care enough to send the very best...

I am particularly fond of a Glock in .40 S&W, which bridges the gap nicely. I'd be perfectly happy with it in any tactical situation I'm likely to face between home and work. But if I had the time and the carry ability I'd still opt for the .45. Big and slow and strong and it doesn't overpenetrate. Your mileage may vary.

At home it's a 12 gauge Mossberg - the pistols are only if I can't walk around with a long gun. They'd freak at work - weenies. But around home it's the boss for any range I'm likely to need - 100 meters max with my personal load of alternating rounds of #4 buckshot and rifled slug. Anything more serious than that is a rifle, and that's another conversation.

Rifles...mmmmmmm....

130 posted on 12/21/2003 7:45:57 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: OKSooner
If you get one of the mini revolvers you might as well just get it in .22lr and use shorts in it.

About 15 years ago, a friend of mine had a chronograph and we decided to test one of those with .22 and .22mag cylinders. I think it had a one inch barrel.

Of the 3 the short produced the highest velocity by a small margin and they were all three within a couple of foot pounds of the same energy.

Of course the mag might have killed someone by just the awesome blast.

131 posted on 12/21/2003 7:46:29 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Squantos
Good choice is the one that works for the individual that has the responsibility of using it to protect life. Vettechick likes it too........:o)

You had to throw Vettechick in there. Now I'm labored with the burden of love. :^)

Nice web page that she has there, BTW. I appreciate anybody that likes the 27 (and most people that don't)

132 posted on 12/21/2003 7:47:54 PM PST by meyer
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To: kuma; NRA2BFree
Unfortunately I do not own a firearm "yet". I know, I know... it's almost more than a right, a duty.

Better get one now, while you still can. If gun sales are suspended on a nationwide level, it will be a Homeland Security "emergency" that does it.

133 posted on 12/21/2003 7:51:20 PM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
I was responding to this and not your advantage, I understand that. But the "if it ain't a Glock you can't depend on it" just ain't true in all weapons. I'm glad you like your Glock, but their are others out there just a good.

I misunderstood the "won't fly with me" part and agree with all that you have posted. Glocks are not for everybody, but I am tired of people saying that they are for nobody.

134 posted on 12/21/2003 7:52:33 PM PST by Eaker (Place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark. - Lazarus Long)
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To: meyer
I would say 30-06 but the .308/7.62 has the same ballistic signature. Plus my m-1a1 takes the 7.62.
135 posted on 12/21/2003 7:53:03 PM PST by 11Bush
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
stagger with what?

Nothing serious - I stagger hollow points with flatpoints (the .40 equivalent of hardball). I haven't a clue if it is the best way to approach things, but it really isn't a bad thing.

136 posted on 12/21/2003 7:53:22 PM PST by meyer
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
I always thought the bigger bird shot would be a guaranteed hit and the buck shot would finish up if necessary...

Yup. Worked for me in Honduras. Works for home defense, too. Although, very few home invaders can hear the action of a pump shotgun without being reduced to pi$$ covered jello.

137 posted on 12/21/2003 7:54:29 PM PST by CholeraJoe (PSST...Saddam! Do ya like Metallica? You're gonna hear alot of it for the next six months.)
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To: meyer
Why not just use hollow points?
138 posted on 12/21/2003 7:55:51 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace (I'm from the government and I'm here to help.)
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To: section9
Always gun, right front pants pocket - Taurus 85 Ti with 38 special +p nyclad hollow points.

Usual gun - Glock 34 on the hip with 9mm +p Silvertip hollow points

Car gun - S&W 625 .45 ACP with 4 moonclips of Silvertips and 10 of hardball.

Always Car rifle - Kel-Tec Sub 2000 with 9mm +p Silvertips (S2K and Glock have interchangeable magazines.

Car/House Shotgun - Remington Mdl 1100 Competition Master with 8 rounds of 00 buck in the magazine and rifled slugs in the carrier.

Yellow? Orange? It's all the same to me.
139 posted on 12/21/2003 7:56:06 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Eaker; glock rocks
Been carrying one since the 90's and no problem. You must be from the school of folks who don't like a weapon that fires when you pull the trigger. If you are going to give advice like this please give details so we Glock owners can cut your argument to pieces.

Been carrying a G30 for three years now. It's my preferred handgun of choice when TSHTF. And that, from a collection that includes Para-Ordnance and Wilson Combat 1911s and a Sig P245.

Glock -- when it absolutely, positively has to fire the first time, every time.

140 posted on 12/21/2003 7:58:05 PM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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