Skip to comments.Snopes: "T Kerry donates millions to fringe political groups through the Tides" = Urban Myth
Posted on 07/26/2004 8:10:39 PM PDT by Homer1
In recent weeks, The Heinz Endowments has been accused of using its funding of the Tides Center of Western Pennsylvania to advance a laundry list of partisan causes and fringe political groups. This accusation is simply wrong.
It originated in an opinion column written by a researcher for the conservative, Washington, D.C.-based Capital Research Center. The crux of CRCs argument is that money directed by the Endowments to Tides is "fungible." By supporting projects through Tides, CRC alleged that Heinz has secretly funneled money to every other organization that has ever received funding through Tides Center and the separate Tides Foundation.
Since first being published in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, CRCs accusation has been picked up and expanded in opinion pieces in a number of newspapers, including the Wall Street Journal, the New York Post and the Washington Times. But not even these publications have leveled this allegation in actual news stories.
The reason why is obvious: The charge does not stand up to objective scrutiny. Four facts undercut it completely. First, by legally binding contract, every penny of Heinzs support to Tides has been explicitly directed to specific projects in Pennsylvania. It cannot legally be redirected and is the exact opposite of fungible.
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Every dollar given to Tides by Heinz was used to offset monies spent on radical, Left wing policies. If they don't get the Heinz money, they don't fund as many radical causes.
Heinz-Kerry affiliates herself with the Tides Foundation, who donates to anti-American causes. What more needs to be said?
Sort of like the United Way. You can specifically target your donation, but non-specifically targeted donations will be shifted away, so net-net, it all goes where the BOD whores want to put the money.
Of course they are going to deny it. They have learned very well the trick of foundation money laundering so it is very difficult to trace. Unless there is subpoena power and these people are dragged into court, it will never be able to be proven. But make no mistake, the money is funneled to extremists.
This is the second of these after one on Kerry's medals. Snoopes seems to have started taking sides and is pretty useless now as far as I am concerned.
snopes wasn't that useful when he was at his high-water mark for usefulness.
Snopes is wrong on purpose here. The site is run by liberals.
Snopes leans left. I notice that none of the other allegations of supporting radical organizations was refuted.
Who funds Snopes?
Yes Snopes is part of the vast left-wing conspiracy.
From: "THE SOURCE" To: "INFORMED VOTERS" Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 7:19 AM Subject: INCREDIBLE! AND SHE WANTS TO BE FIRST LADY? > Maria Teresa Thiersten Simoes-Ferreira Heinz Kerry was born in > Mozambique, the daughter of a Portuguese physician, and was educated > in Switzerland and South Africa. Fluent in five languages, she was > working as a United Nations interpreter in Geneva in the mid-60's when > she met a handsome young American, H. John Heinz, III, who worked at a > bank in Geneva. He told her his family was "in the food business." > They were married in 1966 and returned to Pittsburgh where his family > ran the giant H.J. Heinz food company. He was elected to the U.S. > House of Representatives in 1971, and in 1976 he was elected to the > first of three terms in the United States Senate. > > Several years later, in 1991, he was killed when his plane collided > with a Sun Oil Company helicopter over a Philadelphia suburb while > traveling between Philadelphia and Washington, DC. The senator, his > pilot and co-pilot, and both of Sun's helicopter pilots were killed. > He was survived by his wife, Teresa, and their three young sons. > > Four years later, after inheriting Heinz's $500 million fortune, she > married Senator John Forbes Kerry, the liberal junior senator from > Massachusetts. She became a registered Democrat and the process of > her radicalization was set in motion. > > Heinz Kerry is not shy about telling people that she required Kerry > to sign a pre-nuptial agreement before they were married. John > Kerry may not have check-writing privileges on the Heinz catsup and > pickle fortune, but he is certainly a willing and uncomplaining > beneficiary of it. A lot of hard-earned money, made through many > years of hawking catsup, pickles, and soup, has fallen into the hands > of two people who despise successful entrepreneurship and who believe > in the confiscatory redistribution of wealth. > > So how does Mrs. Heinz Kerry spend John Heinz's money? Just one > example: According to the G2 Bulletin, an on-line intelligence newsletter > of WorldNetDaily, in the years between 1995-2001 she gave more than > $4 million to an organization called the Tides Foundation. And what does > the Tides Foundation do with John Heinz's money? It supports numerous > anti-war groups, including Ramsey Clark's International Action Center. > Clark has offered to defend Saddam Hussein when he's tried. It > supports the Democratic Justice Fund, a joint venture of the Tides > Foundation and > billionaire hate-monger George Soros. The Democratic Justice Fund seeks > to ease restrictions on Muslim immigration from "terrorist" states. > It supports the Council for American-Islamic Relations, whose leaders > are known to have > > close ties to the terrorist group, Hamas. It supports the National Lawyers > Guild, > organized as a communist front during the Cold War era. One of their > attorneys, > Lynne Stewart, has been arrested for helping a client, Sheik Omar > Abdel Rahman, > communicate with terror cells in Egypt. He is the convicted mastermind of > the > 1993 World Trade Center bombing. It supports Planned Parenthood, the > National Abortion Rights Action League, and the Abortion Action > Project. It supports the > "Barrio Warriors," a radical Hispanic group whose primary goal is to return > all of > Arizona, California, New Mexico, and Texas to Mexico. > > These are but a few of the radical groups that benefit, through the > anonymity provided by the Tides Foundation, from the generosity of our > would-be first > lady > - the wealthy widow of Republican senator John Heinz, and now the wife > of the Democratic senator who aspires to be the 44th President of the > United States. > If voters will only try to imagine a woman such as Teresa Heinz Kerry, the > fairy > godmother of the radical left, laying her head on a pillow each night just > inches > from the President of the United States, hopefully they will decide > that the only way these two will ever be allowed into the White House > is with an engraved > > invitation in hand.
This is the 2nd or 3rd article from snopes that seems very defensive of Kerry/Heinz by centering in on nuances.
These articles seem more at being defensive than at being truth-bearers.
Here's mine,Scumbag left wing propaganda site run by Barbara and David P. Mikkelson both certified SCUM!
So her money is earmarked for certain projects?
It's her CELEBRITY that gives the foundation PR and gets donations etc.
Do liberals really think people are stupid?
Snopes is a Leftist site run by Leftist sympathizers who actively work to support the Leftist Agenda through disinformation to the Sheep.
They have declared their antipathy toward the War on Terror; they have "de-bunked" the Clinton Body Count, and have substitutued a Bush Body Count .
And now, they seek to go further, by "educating" the Sheep to the "truth" of Teresa Heinz and her support of Leftist entities in this country.
Do not give them the Web hit, and the advertizing dollars, that this propaganda organ so desperately needs.
Snopes is becoming obviously heavy left leaning. There have been several things they have been absolutely wrong on, but posted it to make Kerry seem better.
The Terror in the Skies thing was listed as false, but that was only because of ONE leftist article disputed it, where there were several articles that backed up what she said.
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I think we need to cut the chase here. If Heiinz is supporting Leftist causes they are guilty of supporting Saddum Hussein and his despicabl;e little empire. Not to mention being in league with Castro. It's is on the news. Anyone who says otherwise is a liberal. nuff said.
You weren't aware of their Commie-leanings?
Heck, in an article I read a while ago they (an all-so-objective married couple) admitted being lefties.
I wish people would stop bowing to Snopes. They've printed stuff that is counteracted in other urban legend sites, not to mention contradicts certain things that are well-known to some of us.
I have heard a couple versions, and I am willing to give the benefit of a doubt. Like alot of org's, sometimes you don't know what you're actually getting into. It is possible Kerry doesn't/didn't know what all they mite do. Never mind the trickle-down chain often claimed to terrorists - this is sort of like accusing SUV owners of supporting terrorists, and druggies of supporting evil mafiosos in Colombia. It's just kind of disingenuous.
Ok. I am a guy that likes to cut to the chase. Despite him being a liberal kerry is a smart man. Not life smart like Bush but intellectual smart. kerry examines where his and his wife's funds are going and where the Heinz corporation is going so he KNOWS that those foundations or trusts or whatever his money is going, are funneling the cash to terrorist/communist sources.
I mean if you put a dollar in the cup of a beggar wouldn't you watch what he did with the money? Ofcourse you would. Just like that beggar going to the store to buy a lick of brandy those foundations are giving money to terrorist org.s . It's illegal it's wrong and it's Un-American.
Quite Frankly I wonder why the men in tan trench coats are not knocking on Kerry's door to ask him a few questions. Sounds like the liberal conspiracy is alive and well protecting those on top.
I wonder why we don't bring the allegations. We are American Citizens. We have the evidence we have the authority and we have the man. All we need to do now is tip some people off and apply some pressure and Kerry will be doing some time. For a long, long time.
Thank you; you nailed it. They have a history of
"packaging" their stories.
"intellectual smart. kerry examines where his and his wife's funds are going and where the Heinz corporation is going so he KNOWS that those foundations or trusts or whatever his money is going"
I hate to break this to you, but smart does not = knowledgeable. It's not necessarily so that they examine where money goes. You'd think so, but there is absolutely no standing on that accusation so far from what (little) I hear. (How often do you really dig into those charity org's you send some money to?)
And I'll say again - SUV owners are not supporting terrorists.
Snopes has been politicized on a wide variety of issues.
Well let's get serious here. Kerry may not be knowledgeable but he sure is as what-have-you that he knows where his money goes. You think people give to charities? N0-WAY. I for one thoroughly scrutinize every charity I give to. I mean if we know where his money is going, some out-of-the-way internet chat board than Kerry does to. You would have to be...un-knowledgable not to know that.That's why I say some judicial action needs to be taken against Kerry.
BTW I was not going to say anything about this but you brought it up. I don't own an SUV nor car. I take the public Trans. and use less gas. If you own a vehicle and are not sure that your gas is coming from a communist and/or terrorist country than you have made yourself worse than a terrorist. I don't have that problem, but if I did I would be vigilant enough to know where my gas is coming from. What I have just said is hard to hear, I know, but it's the truth. People don't like to hear the truth but that's the black and white of it.
If you use gas from one of the countries above you are worse than a terrorist because you aid and abet the enemy sacrificing Americans lives abroad just so you can get to work on time. Those are the facts. If you truely love your country you would check the source of your gas especially at this time of war.
If not that you would risk using the pub. trans.
I hope some liberal doesn't remove my comment because it is important that people read it. I hope your consciousnesses are convicted.
Conservator over and out.
I'm sorry, but that whole trickle-down chain theory is ludicrous and tenuous, at best.
Yes, I'm sure every1 wants to research everything they deal w/. No, we don't. Sorry. Like we really have the time!
"If not that you would risk using the pub. trans."
Sorry, but mucho pubic transportation uses "terrorist" oil, too.
In fact, I'm sure you'll find just about everything you have a hand in and ON *somehow* connects up to some terrorist or communist. (Ben & Jerry's?) Such reasoning that we must somehow research it all and stop whatever has any connection is absolutely ludicrous and a bit obsessive.
Let's put it this way - such accusations (you're worse than terrorists for driving an SUV) wouldn't hold water in Heaven. In fact, the accusation - what we call slander & libel - mite just get you in Hell.
And that's the truth.
"Let's put it this way - such accusations (you're worse than terrorists for driving an SUV) wouldn't hold water in Heaven. In fact, the accusation - what we call slander & libel - mite just get you in Hell.
And that's the truth."
I have thought about what you said and you are absolutely right.
I sincerely apologize for the accusation and all who might have been offended. here is no reason to accuse others of things without first having the evidence beforehand. Please accept my sincerest apology.
Apology accepted, altho I didn't really know I was being personally insulted....!
As for SUV owners, perhaps so. ;-)
I don't have 1 but I do have gas cars, including an old giant which I'm sure gets worse than today's SUVs (altho haven't driven it in years).
Anyway, glad if you can see even the futility of "accusing" this person, that person, etc, for things really not under their control or ken. It's futile as well as unfair, I think, since as I stated, probably everything you deal w/somehow "supports" some unsavory character or regime. (e.g., All the oil that supports just about everything from cars' fuel, to cars' LUBRICATION, to home heating, to your door hinges.) You'd spend alot of time just listing all of us who are thus supporting despotism! It'd probably be easier to list the citizens who DON'T "support" it!
Boy I can beat the death out of something!
Anyway, no hard feelings. I think you make alot of sense from what I've seen elsewhere. The key is to try not to take things *too* seriously here (I have trouble sometimes).
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