Posted on 07/26/2004 8:10:39 PM PDT by Homer1
In recent weeks, The Heinz Endowments has been accused of using its funding of the Tides Center of Western Pennsylvania to advance a laundry list of partisan causes and fringe political groups. This accusation is simply wrong.
It originated in an opinion column written by a researcher for the conservative, Washington, D.C.-based Capital Research Center. The crux of CRC’s argument is that money directed by the Endowments to Tides is "fungible." By supporting projects through Tides, CRC alleged that Heinz has secretly funneled money to every other organization that has ever received funding through Tides Center and the separate Tides Foundation.
Since first being published in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, CRC’s accusation has been picked up and expanded in opinion pieces in a number of newspapers, including the Wall Street Journal, the New York Post and the Washington Times. But not even these publications have leveled this allegation in actual news stories.
The reason why is obvious: The charge does not stand up to objective scrutiny. Four facts undercut it completely. First, by legally binding contract, every penny of Heinz’s support to Tides has been explicitly directed to specific projects in Pennsylvania. It cannot legally be redirected and is the exact opposite of fungible.
Second,
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I think we need to cut the chase here. If Heiinz is supporting Leftist causes they are guilty of supporting Saddum Hussein and his despicabl;e little empire. Not to mention being in league with Castro. It's is on the news. Anyone who says otherwise is a liberal. nuff said.
You weren't aware of their Commie-leanings?
Heck, in an article I read a while ago they (an all-so-objective married couple) admitted being lefties.
I wish people would stop bowing to Snopes. They've printed stuff that is counteracted in other urban legend sites, not to mention contradicts certain things that are well-known to some of us.
I have heard a couple versions, and I am willing to give the benefit of a doubt. Like alot of org's, sometimes you don't know what you're actually getting into. It is possible Kerry doesn't/didn't know what all they mite do. Never mind the trickle-down chain often claimed to terrorists - this is sort of like accusing SUV owners of supporting terrorists, and druggies of supporting evil mafiosos in Colombia. It's just kind of disingenuous.
Ok. I am a guy that likes to cut to the chase. Despite him being a liberal kerry is a smart man. Not life smart like Bush but intellectual smart. kerry examines where his and his wife's funds are going and where the Heinz corporation is going so he KNOWS that those foundations or trusts or whatever his money is going, are funneling the cash to terrorist/communist sources.
I mean if you put a dollar in the cup of a beggar wouldn't you watch what he did with the money? Ofcourse you would. Just like that beggar going to the store to buy a lick of brandy those foundations are giving money to terrorist org.s . It's illegal it's wrong and it's Un-American.
Quite Frankly I wonder why the men in tan trench coats are not knocking on Kerry's door to ask him a few questions. Sounds like the liberal conspiracy is alive and well protecting those on top.
I wonder why we don't bring the allegations. We are American Citizens. We have the evidence we have the authority and we have the man. All we need to do now is tip some people off and apply some pressure and Kerry will be doing some time. For a long, long time.
Thank you; you nailed it. They have a history of
"packaging" their stories.
"intellectual smart. kerry examines where his and his wife's funds are going and where the Heinz corporation is going so he KNOWS that those foundations or trusts or whatever his money is going"
I hate to break this to you, but smart does not = knowledgeable. It's not necessarily so that they examine where money goes. You'd think so, but there is absolutely no standing on that accusation so far from what (little) I hear. (How often do you really dig into those charity org's you send some money to?)
And I'll say again - SUV owners are not supporting terrorists.
Snopes has been politicized on a wide variety of issues.
Well let's get serious here. Kerry may not be knowledgeable but he sure is as what-have-you that he knows where his money goes. You think people give to charities? N0-WAY. I for one thoroughly scrutinize every charity I give to. I mean if we know where his money is going, some out-of-the-way internet chat board than Kerry does to. You would have to be...un-knowledgable not to know that.That's why I say some judicial action needs to be taken against Kerry.
BTW I was not going to say anything about this but you brought it up. I don't own an SUV nor car. I take the public Trans. and use less gas. If you own a vehicle and are not sure that your gas is coming from a communist and/or terrorist country than you have made yourself worse than a terrorist. I don't have that problem, but if I did I would be vigilant enough to know where my gas is coming from. What I have just said is hard to hear, I know, but it's the truth. People don't like to hear the truth but that's the black and white of it.
If you use gas from one of the countries above you are worse than a terrorist because you aid and abet the enemy sacrificing Americans lives abroad just so you can get to work on time. Those are the facts. If you truely love your country you would check the source of your gas especially at this time of war.
If not that you would risk using the pub. trans.
I hope some liberal doesn't remove my comment because it is important that people read it. I hope your consciousnesses are convicted.
Conservator over and out.
I'm sorry, but that whole trickle-down chain theory is ludicrous and tenuous, at best.
Yes, I'm sure every1 wants to research everything they deal w/. No, we don't. Sorry. Like we really have the time!
"If not that you would risk using the pub. trans."
Sorry, but mucho pubic transportation uses "terrorist" oil, too.
In fact, I'm sure you'll find just about everything you have a hand in and ON *somehow* connects up to some terrorist or communist. (Ben & Jerry's?) Such reasoning that we must somehow research it all and stop whatever has any connection is absolutely ludicrous and a bit obsessive.
Let's put it this way - such accusations (you're worse than terrorists for driving an SUV) wouldn't hold water in Heaven. In fact, the accusation - what we call slander & libel - mite just get you in Hell.
And that's the truth.
"Let's put it this way - such accusations (you're worse than terrorists for driving an SUV) wouldn't hold water in Heaven. In fact, the accusation - what we call slander & libel - mite just get you in Hell.
And that's the truth."
I have thought about what you said and you are absolutely right.
I sincerely apologize for the accusation and all who might have been offended. here is no reason to accuse others of things without first having the evidence beforehand. Please accept my sincerest apology.
Apology accepted, altho I didn't really know I was being personally insulted....!
As for SUV owners, perhaps so. ;-)
I don't have 1 but I do have gas cars, including an old giant which I'm sure gets worse than today's SUVs (altho haven't driven it in years).
Anyway, glad if you can see even the futility of "accusing" this person, that person, etc, for things really not under their control or ken. It's futile as well as unfair, I think, since as I stated, probably everything you deal w/somehow "supports" some unsavory character or regime. (e.g., All the oil that supports just about everything from cars' fuel, to cars' LUBRICATION, to home heating, to your door hinges.) You'd spend alot of time just listing all of us who are thus supporting despotism! It'd probably be easier to list the citizens who DON'T "support" it!
Boy I can beat the death out of something!
Anyway, no hard feelings. I think you make alot of sense from what I've seen elsewhere. The key is to try not to take things *too* seriously here (I have trouble sometimes).
;-D
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