Posted on 8/27/2004, 8:36:11 PM by Exton1
How do Bush and Kerry differ on illegals?
Considering that Bush has not only done nothing to stop and throw out the illegals, but he has actively tired to make them legal, thereby exacerbating the problem. Also, while in office he has done a lot for the liberal agenda, and basically ignored the Conservatives. So since I can not vote for Bush, and will not vote for Kerry, I am just going to stay home. Maybe then, will the Republicans start listening to there base.
Does anyone else agree?
*ping* to a troubled Freeper.
What we need is to use the national security issues a way for people to understand the border issues better - and that's starting to happen.
Nope. If you decide to not vote, you forfeit all rights to complain for the next four years, and I'm going to wager that complaining is your most common activity when it comes to politics.
I think your post is stupid.
I hope you'll be happy with all those activist judges Kerry will appoint.
Your right to complain will not exist for four years since you did not vote.
I hope I don't see any complaining from you after November 2, 2004 until the next presidential election.
"Copout" in Spanish is "El Copouto".
When? Where? Alls I see is this mess...
Not much difference in their stands.
Libertarians and Constitution Party are opposed to foreign involvement. They would apparently prefer to fight the WoT in Cleveland and Denver and St. Louis, etc.
I am wondering whether the best solution to this election cycle would be a Kerry win with the House staying Republican, so we might get a good case of gridlock. That seems to be the best we can hope for.
If that's the only issue that's important to you, You seem spot on.
I can't not vote. It's not in me to sit anything out. Here in Cali my vote really doesn't matter but I sleep better at night knowing I'm not part of the problem. Hope you change your mind.
Bad as the choices are, you must choose. Kerry and Bush are not the same, and their parties represent vastly different constituencies. Neither one is satisfactory on the issue you mention but there are others, equally important, where they hold significantly different positions.
I say this knowing you and I may make completely different choices but it is important for the country that we do make them...and not sit at home complaining about how awful the world is.
If you disagree with Bush on this, then try the future Kerry program which will likely be the Davis one in California. Driver's licenses for illegals....Is this the only issue? You think a Kerry presidency is a better alternative? I disagree with Bush on Medicare spending, education, and immigration, but the thought of a leftist like Kerry running the show is too scary. Horowitz has written in some places that this kind of thing kills Republicans in elections. One issue voters who stay home and pout.
Exton1, what state do you live in? If it's a safe state for Bush or Kerry, then it doesn't matter very much. HOWEVER, if you live in one of those states where the margin of victory can be counted in the hundreds or less, your vote is critical. By NOT voting for President Bush you will be helping Kerry win.
I'm not happy with Bush's policies on illegal immigration, and consider them to be VERY wrong. But, when I list the HUGE number of things that I would find objectionable in a John Kerry Administration -- INCLUDING immigration policy -- I find that there are MORE reasons for me to vote for Bush than to sit this election out.
Just as if Candidate A wins and does something you don't like, you can complain that your choice did not act appropriately.
If you refuse to choose, though, you were not of an opinion, at least not one strong enough to voice. Why should you then dictate by complaint to those who did have and voiced an opinion?
The idea that I suggested that you have to win to have an opinion is ludicrous. But I did mean if you did not care enough to vote, you have no right to complain regardless of the outcome.
In a democracy politicians pay close attention to the behavior of the electorate. Opposition voters must be considered. Non-voters can be treated as cattle.
So if you can't stand the majors then vote for a minor party candidate. But vote.
This is the message the Buchanan/Tancredo organization is putting out to its followers.
If President Bush wins, the lesson will be that the Buchanan/Tancredo anti-immigrant followers can't be trusted anyway, so forget them and go more for the Latino vote.
If you don't contribute to the meal you don't get a seat at the table.
As bad as it is under Bush it would be much worse under Kerry. His mad dog leftist base would insist on instant amnesty and other insanity to lock up more future Democrat voters.
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