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Posted on 09/19/2004 3:58:20 PM PDT by Stashiu
How we won the battles in Vietnam, but lost the war in the MSM. (not original, but it seems to fit the bill)
I was very emotional viewing it. The movie really did capture the ugliness of war and the incredible fighting spirit and loyalty of our troops. The movie also captured the essence of why and how, once you experience the horror, you are never the same again.
When you combine this with the information that has come out from the NVA/VC since the war ended, you can see what the effects of the MSM and anti-war movement were. We were winning, we were always winning, militarily. My brothers did an incredible job under very trying circumstances. They saw more action in 1 year, than WWII veterans did in 4 years in combat.
We handed the communists a victory. We were villified as war criminals. This is the legacy of John Kerry and Jane Fonda. We didn't lose that war, we gave it away.
I would recommend you get a copy of this movie and send it to all your professed 'liberal' friends. Let them see the reality the MSM did not want to show. Then, take them to your local VA hospital and see what their anti-war movement produced. Let them look into the eyes of my brothers with that 1000 yd. stare.
John Kerry and the liberals hate the military and believe me the Military hate John Kerry and the liberals. For shame if Kerry is ever elected the military will get out in droves and Kerry will be forced to implement a draft... It will be the begining of the end of America...
Our guys were winning the war, and would have won had we been allowed to do so.
We don't need the likes of Kerry in the White House.
He has no clue what duty, honor, and country are all about. (I don't see how any veteran could even consider voting for this guy.)
That fellows name was B.G. "Jug" Burkett and the book he was selling was "Stolen Valor". I've read the book several times over the past few years. I, like many others over the years believed some of what John Kerry and Jane Fonda said. That our soldiers were animals. It turns out that not only was John Kerry a lier about our soldiers he was a lier about what he did in Vietnam.
Damn John Kerry! Damn him!
God bless our Vietnam soldiers and Vietnam Vets. What was done to them was unforgivable!
I don't know what fool decided that John Kerry would be smart to run on his "Vietnam Heroics" but I'd like to thank them. Because of that the Vietnam Vets have obtained the chance to get their good names back. And that's a good thing!
"My gut says the Vietnam vets aren't going to take it anymore, and the backlash I'm seeing is the sharp edge of a mighty sword. They're no longer voiceless kids in their early 20s who want to forget the horror of Vietnam and get on with their shattered lives. They're now in their prime, vital members of their communities who are sick and tired of being called baby-killers and being vilified by a relentless, reckless media. And being ignored by an ungrateful nation." (c) 2001 David H. Hackworth (re: Bob Kerrey and alleged "war crimes"))
After thirty years and a googleplex of lies, "I'm seeing ... the sharp edge of a mighty sword."
Now apply that sword to the necks of North Vietnam Communists' General Giap's most valuable guerrillas, the American press. Dan first, then Walter, then. . . .
Couldn't agree more with your statement, been writing the same sentences per verbatim for some time now.
One little problem we have is that in my opinion, that is exactly what Kerry and the demos in the House and Senate that have brought forth bills to re-inact the draft want!
They want everything to get fouled up again, high, level, lower officer ranks depleted as they leave in disguts, then watch in glee as their plan to ruin our military comes to be and forces America to accept UN Control of when and how we can defend ourselves. Believe me folks, these things have been on the liberal books and men behind the curtains for a long time.
Undermine the Republican party, ruin the military, then things become easier to lead America into a position of lets
say subjugation (hopes it spelled correctly).
It is essential that those of us that understand these things somehow start to educated the younger generations,
by sharing ideas and facts as how badly our nation must maintian a strong military and keep strong leaders in the whitehouse that respect them and use them when their is no other choice. MSM and Blather types are trained over the years (it takes a long time), to work toward removing the
soveirnty of this nation, and get us under the UN. Their
masters are the men in power behind the scenes, Brenton Woods, CFR, Tri_Lateral, B's, etc.. They use the ultra liberal left mostly to achieve their goal at eventual one
world government. Before that can happen, you must weaken
America sufficiently so that it falls under UN control.
Many people had laughted at this concept back in the fifties and early sixtees. Well, don't seem like it has gone away has it. People like Kerry, Rather etc., are just
tools to be used and discarded as required. Guys like lets
say Rush Limbaugh think one world government is a silly joke. Well I don't. And I believe Kerry is one of many little tools that are being used to work toward the goal of one world government. He probably in his mind doesn't even have the slightest idea that in reality he works for those behind the curtain (and I don't mean Iron curtain), they where tools for those in absolute control over what happens in the world. Yea, the muslims are a freak aberation in their over all plans. The Islamic radicals ought to become familiar with the CFR's etc., of the world and what they have done over the years, and realize if anything that a strong independent America that believes in freedom are really their allies in the long run. But that is the way the cookie crumbles. Sorry for such verbosity on a ill defined topic. Hope some of you who read get my drift.
You said it well, Jay. Ultimately, what he's looking for is power and not the above.
JOHN KERRY = Enemy of Vietnam Vets
How does it Feeeel..?
"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Forum
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That's the plan, exactly! In Vietnam the left wanted an enemy defeat of the U.S. Today they do not want radical Islam to win but they do want our humiliation and our subjugation to internationalists.
collaborate 2. To cooperate treasonably, as with an enemy occupation force in one's country.
Bill Clinton, et al. have used the word collaboration to describe their aim for our relations with a multilateral, internationalist entity.
As you described the left does want an end to our sovereignty and an end to our unilateral military strength.
...JOHN KERRY came back from Vietnam to call us American Soldiers fighting for Freedom there...
...rapists and terrorists.
...MEL GIBSON came back from filming our real Vietnam War Story
"WE WERE SOLDIERS" ..deeply inspired to finally make his ultimate story of Love and Sacrifice titled...
.."The PASSION of the Christ"
I wonder who got the Story right..?
Signed: "ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer
Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965
'MODERN DAY HEROES: In Defense of America'-Contributing Author
Hit: 'Resource Center'
Hit: 'Aloha Ronnie'
And now the the newly declared LIBERTY Century its...
Little Saigon 4-BUSH: 2 cultures, 1 candidate
'LOVE and HONOR' = RANDALL WALLACE's new LIBERTY Novel
A salute and a thank you for ALL who served Vietnam who were slandered by those like Kerry and Fonda.
Vietnam Vets were slandered by:
DIANE 'Hillary' RODHAM
It's now OUR Turn to fight back with the Truth to an audience all our very own.
I stand at attention and smartly salute each veteran and every active military person person presently serving in all our military branches. I mean that.
During NAM I was spared the horrors of war. Though I worked from 1966 through 1979 at the Westinghouse Aerospace/Defense plant in Baltimore,MD, on various project such as the original ECM pods that got mounted on F4 Phantoms etc., and later such things as the Harpoon Cruise Missile and F16 Fire control radar systems, etc., I was classified A1 and ready to go. Due to being married and having a first child I was spared the draft, due to President Nixons decree that new fathers would not go. But I have always felt I did my very best to provide accurate and reliable systems to help protect our Airforce pilots and Navy and Marine Aviators from getting downed by a Soviet SAM missile. Things sure where clouded back then for many of us. War is hell. But as I have over the years read many books by military personel and viewed with my on eyes just how terribly wrong the liberal and democratic party is on issues of national defense, I have as many of us grown to learn just how dangerouse they are! How the hell can an ex sargeant such as Charlie Rangle for instance,
ever in his heart believe re-constituting the draft for instance, to undermine our at present well manned military force? Is he a mis-guided soul? How can he support Kerry?
How can guys like General Clark be Democrates? How can General Clark stand on the same stage with Big John Kerry?
Why is not for instance Clark a member of the Republican party, and pushing for perhaps honest social issues, but harping to America about the need for an extremly well equiped, powerful military?
It is not just Big John F___ing Kerry that is the problem.
He gets support from formal military personel!
I guess at 58 I just don't quite see the light yet. Why with what Clark for instance knows about Kerry, how could he bring himself to stand in the gouls presence? Seriously!
At any rate, all you veterans that have served our country......I smartly salute you while standing at attention with a straight back, chest out and stomach in,
with feet at a close 45 degrees. At least I knew how to march and do drill as a kid in the scouts and explorers.
More then I can say for most of the kids of today they are
are sad sacks. No draft please. ONLY SIGN UP IF YOU ARE SERIOUS ABOUT SERVING YOUR COUNTRY WITH HONOR AND BRAVERY WHEN REQUIRED.
God bless the United States, our military personel, and our commander in chief.
I had a bad night last night. The movie opened up a reservoir of tears and grief. It was that 1000 yd. stare. Reminded me of how young and naive I was. Coming under fire changes you in ways too difficult to explain.
John F'n Kerry does not resemble anyone I ever met in Nam. Even the worst ticket punchers I worked under were not that bad. Mind you, our entire Company chain of command was replaced one day, before they all got some 'friendly fire'.
Then there is the anger at how we abandoned these people, and all those of us who were damaged by the war. Put me in a 'good' mood to go to the VA today for an appointment. I should be in rare form.