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The God Gene (New book by Dr. Dean Hamer)(He failed to find the "Gay Gene")
Random House.com ^ | September 2004

Posted on 09/22/2004 8:38:00 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

Leading Geneticist[?] Dean Hamer cracks the "code" behind why we are predisposed to believe in God. In a book that bridges the gap between religion and science, Hamer brilliantly illuminates how our inclination toward faith is influenced by our genes.

The overwhelming majority of Americans believe in God, expressing a conviction that has existed since the beginning of recorded time and is shared by billions around the world. In The God Gene, Dr. Dean Hamer reveals that this inclination toward religious faith is no accident; it is in good measure due to our genes.

Hamer shows that new discoveries in behavioral genetics and neurobiology indicate that humans inherit a set of predispositions that make their brains ready and eager to embrace a higher power. By analyzing the genetic makeup of over a thousand people of different ages and bckgrounds, and comparing their DNA samples against a scale that measures spirituality, Hamer actually identified a specific "God gene" that appears to influence spirituality.

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Researcher Dean Hamer, for example, attempted to link male homosexuality to a stretch of DNA located at the tip of the X chromosome, the chromosome that some men inherit from their mothers. Referring to that research, Hamer offered some conclusions regarding genetics and homosexuality.

"We knew that genes were only part of the answer. We assumed the environment also played a role in sexual orientation, as it does in most, if not all behaviors...

Homosexuality is not purely genetic...environmental factors play a role. There is not a single master gene that makes people gay....I don't think we will ever be able o predict who will be gay."

Citing the failure of his research, Hamer further writes,

"The pedigree failed to produce what we originally hoped to find: simple Mendelian inheritance..."

Dean Byrd, Ph.D:

"..the scientific attempts to demonstrate that homosexual attraction is biologically determined have failed...."

Complex behavioral patterns apparently cannot be reduced down to genetic factors alone. In my opinion, it is time that politics was seperated from scientific inquiry.

1 posted on 09/22/2004 8:38:00 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: All; scripter; little jeremiah

To see the quotes by Dr. Dean Hamer, and Dr. Byrd go to:

http://www.narth.com/docs/innate.html


2 posted on 09/22/2004 8:39:50 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

It could be that faith is a perfectly rational position based on observable evidence and many proofs. The heavens declare His handiwork.


3 posted on 09/22/2004 8:43:36 AM PDT by Jeff Blogworthy
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Hey, wives parents are Buddhist statue carvers that dont even believe in Buddhism. Yet after reading the Chapter of John, she was convinced and converted...

Can I get an AMEN????


4 posted on 09/22/2004 8:45:30 AM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Is this from The Onion?
5 posted on 09/22/2004 8:47:03 AM PDT by BenLurkin (We have low inflation and and low unemployment.)
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To: All

Traits such as eye color, and height, can be directly inherited through our "genes". Other human behaviors are simply too complex to attribute to genes alone.

http://www.narth.com/docs/istheregene.html


6 posted on 09/22/2004 8:49:56 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I think Skinner pretty much adressed the issue.


7 posted on 09/22/2004 8:54:56 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! NOV 2, 2004 is VETERANS DAY! VOTE!)
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To: BenLurkin

No.

Are you?

Dr. Dean Hamer, BTW, was on Good Morning America this morning, talking about this book.

I wonder why (sarcasm)I have never seen anyone who has published a book giving scientific facts showing that no scientist has ever proven homosexuals to be "born that way."

As well, I didn't see these quotes by Dr. Dean Hamer on this mornings Good Morning America show when he was talking about his book. Wonder why. (sarcasm again)


8 posted on 09/22/2004 8:56:21 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Hey, I pretty much agree with your post #6.

But I do find it laughable when this doctor suggests that the existence of God, or faith in God, or indeed any other aspect of the relationship between man and God is genetically pre-disposed. It is absurd to the point of being a virtual lampoon of satire.


9 posted on 09/22/2004 9:11:12 AM PDT by BenLurkin (We have low inflation and and low unemployment.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I will check this out. It's extremely hard to imagine that some people have genetic machinery that causes them to believe in God, whereas others are barred from such belief by an accident of birth.

My conviction* is that the desire to know and love God is eternally established in the heart of every living being. Just gets very, very covered due to many factors (insert long philosophical/religious discussion later) - primarily because of long ago choices, and new wrong choices daily.

*Insert another discussion here. Will get back to this.


10 posted on 09/22/2004 10:14:37 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Islamo-Jihadis and Homosexual-Jihadis both want to destroy civilization.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Big difference between biologically determined and genetically determined. Quite a range of physical and mental characteristics are strongly affected by in utero conditions -- which are determined by such things as the woman's hormone levels, substance abuse, nutritional factors, and stress. The lack of a "gay gene" does not mean that homosexuality isn't biologically determined (though my personal view is that in some cases it is, and in others it's not).

Physical brain development in particular is known to be affected by in utero factors. Testosterone levels can vary the "masculine" or "feminine" characteristics of the brain, alcohol can produce fetal alcohol syndrome, etc.


11 posted on 09/22/2004 11:19:09 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker (Donate to the Swift Vets -- www.swiftvets.com)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy; BenLurkin
It could be that faith is a perfectly rational position based on observable evidence and many proofs.

So is advanced math, but a lot of people just don't get it, in spite of good education from an early age. ALL mental characteristics have a genetic component. Why would faith in a higher power be any different?

12 posted on 09/22/2004 11:22:41 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker (Donate to the Swift Vets -- www.swiftvets.com)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Perhaps a strict Calvinist would buy that; I do not. The proposed theory undermines the concept of free will - a basic premise present throughout the Bible. God gives us the will to choose: good or bad - right or wrong - to reject Christ or to embrace him. One cannot blame God for one's unbelief; this would be the logical corollary of the theory.


13 posted on 09/22/2004 3:22:34 PM PDT by Jeff Blogworthy
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

Whatever force is responsible for our existence is clearly not perfect -- just look around you. Perhaps the existence in a segment of the human population, of a gene which enhances the ability to perceive this force, is the beginnings of said force's attempts to help us lowly critters perceive more of the bigger things in the universe.


14 posted on 09/22/2004 4:18:06 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker (Donate to the Swift Vets -- www.swiftvets.com)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
The explanation for the seeming chaos and lack of perfection, from the Judeo-Christian standpoint, is that it was introduced by man - not God. Genesis tells us that things were perfect until the man and woman exercised the free will God gave them to disobey Him, thereby introducing sin into the world. The blame for evil lies with humanity, not God.

God knew this would happen from the beginning; the ability to choose to sin is the cost of freedom. It is for this reason He has a plan of redemption through the sacrificial blood of Jesus. There is more than a 'force' to know - there is a person.

"Whoever comes to me I will in no wise cast out." - Jesus
15 posted on 09/22/2004 4:37:33 PM PDT by Jeff Blogworthy
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