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Was Dean Martin a Republican?
11/11/04 | self

Posted on 11/11/2004 1:20:04 PM PST by Sybeck1

I ran across this picture and well considering Frank Sinatra was a democrat, I thought Dino was too.


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1 posted on 11/11/2004 1:20:04 PM PST by Sybeck1
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To: Sybeck1

I think he was a Pubbie.


2 posted on 11/11/2004 1:20:58 PM PST by RockinRight (I think, therefore I am a conservative.)
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To: Sybeck1

The democrats were a different party in the past.


3 posted on 11/11/2004 1:21:36 PM PST by cripplecreek (Greetings from Militiagan.)
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To: Sybeck1

I believe the entire Rat Pack was Rat in the early 60's, but eventually became Republicans toward the end of the 60s.


4 posted on 11/11/2004 1:21:48 PM PST by ambrose
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To: Sybeck1

Ain't that a kick in the head?


5 posted on 11/11/2004 1:22:09 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: Sybeck1
Was Dean Martin a Republican?

Check the voting records.

If he voted on 2 November 2004, he was a Democrat.

6 posted on 11/11/2004 1:22:39 PM PST by Polybius
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To: Sybeck1

I suspect he hooked up with whatever party was serving drinks.


7 posted on 11/11/2004 1:22:45 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Sybeck1

John Wayne was a wonderful patriot and Republican.


8 posted on 11/11/2004 1:22:50 PM PST by lady lawyer
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To: Sybeck1

Great photo. Thanks for posting it, I'm gonna steal it.


9 posted on 11/11/2004 1:22:57 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: Sybeck1

I'll bet Sinatra wouldn't be a dem anymore, if he were alive.


11 posted on 11/11/2004 1:23:50 PM PST by eyespysomething (8 days out, and the Dems still don't get it.)
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To: Sybeck1

I think Frank leaned Dim in the 60s, but was a GOPer in his later, smarter years.


12 posted on 11/11/2004 1:23:50 PM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: Sybeck1

I love listening to Dean's roasts. That was comedy at its finest back then. When real Americans drank, smoke, and ripped on each other good-naturedly.


13 posted on 11/11/2004 1:23:54 PM PST by ServesURight (Tim Michels for U.S. Senate Wisconsin)
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To: Sybeck1

Where he was born and raised was primarily steel plants, Steubenville, OH very blue collar and Democrat back then. Supposedly as the years wore on he became Republican.


14 posted on 11/11/2004 1:24:33 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Sybeck1
I believe Frank was a supporter of Reagan's, so if he was a democrat, he was a Reagan democrat. Also, Charlton Heston was once a democrat, who helped organize the Hollywood contingent that supported and accompanied Dr King on the Washington march. Heston was even approached about running as a democrat senator after Reagan was elected governor of California.

As you know, Heston ultimately wound up being a staunch Republican conservative and NRA spokesman. Hollywood types who were Kennedy democrats were often Reagan democrats or outright republicans after their party went to hell in a handbasket.

15 posted on 11/11/2004 1:25:18 PM PST by Sans-Culotte
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To: Polybius

ROFLMAO!!!!!!


16 posted on 11/11/2004 1:25:28 PM PST by Gator113
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To: Sybeck1

Four good men- God rest their souls.


17 posted on 11/11/2004 1:25:36 PM PST by mafree
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To: Sybeck1

I believe Ronald Reagan and Frank were Democrats and then switched parties later.


18 posted on 11/11/2004 1:25:41 PM PST by crunchberry
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To: Sybeck1

Frank Sinatra was all over the map. He was a Democrat in 1960, supporting John Kennedy. By 1980 he had become a Reagan supporter. But shortly before his death he came out for some leftist causes (Planned Parenthood and some environmental whacko stuff, if I recall).

I'm pretty sure Dean Martin was a lifelong Republican.


19 posted on 11/11/2004 1:25:55 PM PST by puroresu
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To: Sybeck1

When was this picture taken? Back in the sixties, Reagan was a Democrat.


20 posted on 11/11/2004 1:26:21 PM PST by HEY4QDEMS
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To: anniegetyourgun

He didn't drink. I suspect he was a Democrat, but certainly no wild-eyed commie liberal. Like Frank, I bet he was a Reagan supporter.


21 posted on 11/11/2004 1:26:41 PM PST by Rastus
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To: Sybeck1

Several comments:

First, Sinatra was a 'Rat. Big JFK fan, invited him to his house in Palm Springs. Spent a lot of cash to build a helicopter landing pad for Marine One (or whatever they called it back then) and then JFK blew him off. I think it had something to do with advisors telling JFK it wasn't good to be seen with someone with suspected mob ties.

Second, I believe Dino was a Pubbie, I remember hearing/reading/seeing that somewhere.

Thirdly, typically, Dean Martin had apple juice in his glass and the whole drinking thing was a schtick (at least from the late 60s early 70s forward).


22 posted on 11/11/2004 1:27:41 PM PST by Stag (I am the king of bad pick up lines)
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To: Sybeck1

Thought everyone knew that Sinatra was so ticked off at JFK refusing to come to his Palm Springs house after helping him win the presidency, that he swore Republican. Was a big Reagan supporter in the eighties. I presume so was Dino.


23 posted on 11/11/2004 1:27:43 PM PST by Californiajones ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy" - Thomas Aquinas)
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To: ServesURight
I love listening to Dean's roasts. That was comedy at its finest back then. When real Americans drank, smoke, and ripped on each other good-naturedly.

You have to love a group of people who referred to cuff links as "curb feelers."

24 posted on 11/11/2004 1:28:06 PM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: Polybius

Too funny...


25 posted on 11/11/2004 1:28:46 PM PST by Pharmboy (My tagline has gone fishin')
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To: HEY4QDEMS

Reagan became a Republican in '62.


27 posted on 11/11/2004 1:29:07 PM PST by Rastus
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To: Bikers4Bush
Where he was born and raised was primarily steel plants, Steubenville, OH very blue collar and Democrat back then. Supposedly as the years wore on he became Republican.

Steubenville (my home town) is still blue collar and Democrat. Jefferson County went for Kerry.

28 posted on 11/11/2004 1:29:19 PM PST by thesharkboy
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To: anniegetyourgun

just a quick FYI- Dino's drunken routine was an act. He rarely if ever drank socially and was a devoted family man. As for Sinatra-he was a close friend of the Reagans and a staunch republican later in life. That is a great picture. My favorite president and three of my favorite entertainers.


29 posted on 11/11/2004 1:29:30 PM PST by Big Red Clay (Greetings from the Big Red State)
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To: Polybius

Cold. That was very cold.

Prairie (and I loved it)


30 posted on 11/11/2004 1:29:51 PM PST by prairiebreeze (George W Bush: Spending well-earned political capital.)
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To: HEY4QDEMS; Sybeck1
Reagan switched his party affiliation to Republican officially in, I believe, 1964 or '65.

As for Deano, I think he, like Sinatra, was initially a blue-collar Truman-Kennedy Democrat. Sinatra, frozen out of the Kennedy circle because of his reputed mob association, switched his support to the Republican Party in the late 1960s. He was honorary chairman of the 1985 Reagan Inaugural.

And of course, Jerry Lewis is a Republican. :)

31 posted on 11/11/2004 1:30:43 PM PST by TheBigB ("I'm George W. Bush, and I approved this ass-whoopin'.")
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To: Sybeck1

Yes Dean Martin voted Republican until the day he died ... he's voted as a Demorat ever since


32 posted on 11/11/2004 1:30:47 PM PST by clamper1797 (VA-93 --- CVA-41 Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72-73)
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To: Sybeck1
Frank was a Democrat at one time. After the fiasco with Kennedy not coming to his Palm Springs home for New Year's in 1962 Frank was turned off of Democrats and eventually became a Republican.
Frank was a close friend of the Ronald and Nancy Reagan and if you remember put on the Inaugural Gala for Reagan when he became President.
So Frank changed and left the Democrats behind.
33 posted on 11/11/2004 1:30:58 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Sans-Culotte

are you trying to send a subliminal message there? :-)


34 posted on 11/11/2004 1:31:18 PM PST by WoodstockCat (W2 !!! Four more Years!!)
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To: thesharkboy

I figured it was. My mom was born and raised there but I haven't been back for anything longer than half a day in about 18 years.


35 posted on 11/11/2004 1:31:30 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Big Red Clay

Because they are used in a lot of advertising, I have allposters.com blocked. Can you tell me who all is in the photo? Thanks.


36 posted on 11/11/2004 1:31:31 PM PST by Rastus
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To: Sybeck1

One of my favorite Dean Martin lines...he said,

"Hey, I shook hands with Pat Boone and my whole right side sobered up..."

Jimmy Stewart, the Duke, Kirk Douglas, Charlton Heston, Sinatra (later) ...solid Republicans in attitude at least Red-Staters as we define them now


37 posted on 11/11/2004 1:32:02 PM PST by Tribemike (Here is the text of the article....)
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To: Sybeck1

Ronald Reagan participated in one of Dean Martin's classic "roast" specials. This photo, I'm pretty sure, is from that particular "roast." (It may even have been a roast of John Wayne.)


38 posted on 11/11/2004 1:32:31 PM PST by My2Cents (The Democrat Party is pining for the fjords.)
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To: TheBigB

Lets not forget Bing Crosby and Peter Lawford a couple of other Republicans


39 posted on 11/11/2004 1:33:26 PM PST by aft_lizard (This space waiting for a post election epiphany)
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To: TheBigB

LOL..."HELLO LADY!!!..."


40 posted on 11/11/2004 1:33:33 PM PST by My2Cents (The Democrat Party is pining for the fjords.)
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To: aft_lizard

Are you sure about Lawford? He married into the Kennedy clan.


41 posted on 11/11/2004 1:34:03 PM PST by My2Cents (The Democrat Party is pining for the fjords.)
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To: Sybeck1

A lot of old Hollywooders were moved by the Camelot facade of Kennedy. Once the fairy tale myth was passed, and ideas became important, they pulled a Reagan and went pub.

But it's also true that Kennedy's rats were not the same as Carter's rats.


42 posted on 11/11/2004 1:34:06 PM PST by beavus
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Dino is a personal role model of mine and I have actually patterned my own personal style after his. A cool aloofness & detatchment, and an exceedingly strong sense of privacy, and a good sense of humor about life's ups and downs (and oneself) has suited me very well. I credit Dino for that personal influence on my personality.

His politics aren't well known, I don't think. He did campaign for Jack Kennedy in 1960, but my understanding was that it was more out of loyalty to his pal Sinatra - who was much more of a Kennedy booster - rather than any strong personal political statement.

Dean was very old-world in many ways. The boozing was largely an act (though he was drinking and eating to excess late in life). It's said he knelt down before bed every day and said his prayers. He was an incredible family man - he had children with his first wife, and many children with his second wife, Jeannie, widely regarded as the true love of his life.

He had more than just a wandering eye - he loved women and had numerous flings and affairs. That's neither conservative nor liberal, I suppose.

He loved his children immensely - when his son was killed in a plane accident, Dino was never really the same and it started .

My gut tells me that he probably wasn't all that political. He probably had an old-world italian outlook on things - strong sense of family and especially loyalty, though not so much that would keep him from indulging in flings with attractive young women (he was even married to a woman in her young 20s late in his life, though it didn't last long). He probably had a live and let live attitude in a variety of things, but by the same token probably had great respect for society's traditions and conventions to a large extent.

The answer is 'I don't know what his politics were,' but my feeling is that he had what we would consider in 2004 a strong natural conservative instinct, but probably wouldn't be too overboard on any issue. I'd guess he would be a conservative leaning moderate who would probably not like flargant departures from tradition and western culture - same sex marriage, for instance.

Sinatra later in life was a Reagan man. Jerry Lewis, Dean's partner for many years, is pretty liberal, I think, as well as delusional. He recently 'confessed' to a torrid sexual affair with Marilyn Monroe, for example, which crosses well over into the delusional.

Just my gut. I don't think Dean would be a big conservative, though I am farily certain that given the focus and fixation of the highest profile liberal causes in 2004, he wouldn't be aligned very rightly with them at all, either.


43 posted on 11/11/2004 1:34:18 PM PST by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: Sybeck1
Frank Sinatra was pretty much of a political opportunist. He used (and was used by) friends from both sides of the aisle. Don't know about Dino.

Then, as now, too many uninformed people accept what the Dems say at face value without exploring the background behind the party--especially the people who contribute, mobilize for, and control the party's national leadership. For example, very few guys on the line who get the shop steward's voter guides understand how radicalized the leadership of their party--and their union--is.

Many people writing at FR are of the mistaken opinion that the Democrat party wasn't radicalized until late in the 60's. This is false. If you look at FDR's advisers, you will find a continuous thread between the Lefties, Socialists, Progressives, and fellow travelers of the 1930's and their children in the 1950's and 60's. One difference is that some (but not all) were anticommunists. The class warfare and identity politics of the Democrat party began seriously, though, with the New Deal.

One of the reasons the Dems are now talking about "talking about values" is that they realize just talking the talk is enough to keep literally millions of people on board. It has been doing so since 1932.

44 posted on 11/11/2004 1:34:29 PM PST by FredZarguna (Wearing Black Pajamas, the Official Robes of the High Priest of the Church of Zarguna, Scientist.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

There's a book available that collects letters written to and by Ronald Reagan. There are several from Sinatra, and his support for the President was deep. I'll have to look and see if there's anything in there from Dean Martin.


45 posted on 11/11/2004 1:34:41 PM PST by Rastus
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To: cripplecreek

That's just it. It would be wrong to compare a 1950's Dem to a 2004 Dem. The 60's took the Democratic Party to an unrecognizable place. Heck, even Reagan was a Democrat until the party was hijacked by the hard left.


46 posted on 11/11/2004 1:35:13 PM PST by SoDak (Home of Senator John Thune)
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To: Tribemike

Kirk Douglas a Republican? I dont think so, I saw him and his son Michael Douglas on TV a few years back after he had his stroke, and he didnt sound very Republican to me.


47 posted on 11/11/2004 1:36:28 PM PST by aft_lizard (This space waiting for a post election epiphany)
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To: Sybeck1

The Rat Pack campaigned for Kennedy back in 1960. If Dean was a Repub he must have knuckled under to the Chairman during the Kennedy campaign.


48 posted on 11/11/2004 1:37:09 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: aft_lizard

Just try to take away his gun....heck, his kind of Democrat then would be a solid red-stater today


49 posted on 11/11/2004 1:37:31 PM PST by Tribemike (Here is the text of the article....)
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To: My2Cents

He refused once to stay at Sinatras house because Sinatra was a Democrat, so the story goes. So he decided to stay at Crosby's house because he was a Republican. I could be extrapolating a bit here, but he could be a pubbie.


50 posted on 11/11/2004 1:38:18 PM PST by aft_lizard (This space waiting for a post election epiphany)
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