Skip to comments.Was Dean Martin a Republican?
Posted on 11/11/2004 1:20:04 PM PST by Sybeck1
I ran across this picture and well considering Frank Sinatra was a democrat, I thought Dino was too.
I think he was a Pubbie.
The democrats were a different party in the past.
I believe the entire Rat Pack was Rat in the early 60's, but eventually became Republicans toward the end of the 60s.
Ain't that a kick in the head?
Check the voting records.
If he voted on 2 November 2004, he was a Democrat.
I suspect he hooked up with whatever party was serving drinks.
John Wayne was a wonderful patriot and Republican.
Great photo. Thanks for posting it, I'm gonna steal it.
I'll bet Sinatra wouldn't be a dem anymore, if he were alive.
I think Frank leaned Dim in the 60s, but was a GOPer in his later, smarter years.
I love listening to Dean's roasts. That was comedy at its finest back then. When real Americans drank, smoke, and ripped on each other good-naturedly.
Where he was born and raised was primarily steel plants, Steubenville, OH very blue collar and Democrat back then. Supposedly as the years wore on he became Republican.
As you know, Heston ultimately wound up being a staunch Republican conservative and NRA spokesman. Hollywood types who were Kennedy democrats were often Reagan democrats or outright republicans after their party went to hell in a handbasket.
Four good men- God rest their souls.
I believe Ronald Reagan and Frank were Democrats and then switched parties later.
Frank Sinatra was all over the map. He was a Democrat in 1960, supporting John Kennedy. By 1980 he had become a Reagan supporter. But shortly before his death he came out for some leftist causes (Planned Parenthood and some environmental whacko stuff, if I recall).
I'm pretty sure Dean Martin was a lifelong Republican.
When was this picture taken? Back in the sixties, Reagan was a Democrat.
He didn't drink. I suspect he was a Democrat, but certainly no wild-eyed commie liberal. Like Frank, I bet he was a Reagan supporter.
First, Sinatra was a 'Rat. Big JFK fan, invited him to his house in Palm Springs. Spent a lot of cash to build a helicopter landing pad for Marine One (or whatever they called it back then) and then JFK blew him off. I think it had something to do with advisors telling JFK it wasn't good to be seen with someone with suspected mob ties.
Second, I believe Dino was a Pubbie, I remember hearing/reading/seeing that somewhere.
Thirdly, typically, Dean Martin had apple juice in his glass and the whole drinking thing was a schtick (at least from the late 60s early 70s forward).
Thought everyone knew that Sinatra was so ticked off at JFK refusing to come to his Palm Springs house after helping him win the presidency, that he swore Republican. Was a big Reagan supporter in the eighties. I presume so was Dino.
You have to love a group of people who referred to cuff links as "curb feelers."
Reagan became a Republican in '62.
Steubenville (my home town) is still blue collar and Democrat. Jefferson County went for Kerry.
just a quick FYI- Dino's drunken routine was an act. He rarely if ever drank socially and was a devoted family man. As for Sinatra-he was a close friend of the Reagans and a staunch republican later in life. That is a great picture. My favorite president and three of my favorite entertainers.
Cold. That was very cold.
Prairie (and I loved it)
As for Deano, I think he, like Sinatra, was initially a blue-collar Truman-Kennedy Democrat. Sinatra, frozen out of the Kennedy circle because of his reputed mob association, switched his support to the Republican Party in the late 1960s. He was honorary chairman of the 1985 Reagan Inaugural.
And of course, Jerry Lewis is a Republican. :)
Yes Dean Martin voted Republican until the day he died ... he's voted as a Demorat ever since
are you trying to send a subliminal message there? :-)
I figured it was. My mom was born and raised there but I haven't been back for anything longer than half a day in about 18 years.
Because they are used in a lot of advertising, I have allposters.com blocked. Can you tell me who all is in the photo? Thanks.
One of my favorite Dean Martin lines...he said,
"Hey, I shook hands with Pat Boone and my whole right side sobered up..."
Jimmy Stewart, the Duke, Kirk Douglas, Charlton Heston, Sinatra (later) ...solid Republicans in attitude at least Red-Staters as we define them now
Ronald Reagan participated in one of Dean Martin's classic "roast" specials. This photo, I'm pretty sure, is from that particular "roast." (It may even have been a roast of John Wayne.)
Lets not forget Bing Crosby and Peter Lawford a couple of other Republicans
Are you sure about Lawford? He married into the Kennedy clan.
A lot of old Hollywooders were moved by the Camelot facade of Kennedy. Once the fairy tale myth was passed, and ideas became important, they pulled a Reagan and went pub.
But it's also true that Kennedy's rats were not the same as Carter's rats.
Dino is a personal role model of mine and I have actually patterned my own personal style after his. A cool aloofness & detatchment, and an exceedingly strong sense of privacy, and a good sense of humor about life's ups and downs (and oneself) has suited me very well. I credit Dino for that personal influence on my personality.
His politics aren't well known, I don't think. He did campaign for Jack Kennedy in 1960, but my understanding was that it was more out of loyalty to his pal Sinatra - who was much more of a Kennedy booster - rather than any strong personal political statement.
Dean was very old-world in many ways. The boozing was largely an act (though he was drinking and eating to excess late in life). It's said he knelt down before bed every day and said his prayers. He was an incredible family man - he had children with his first wife, and many children with his second wife, Jeannie, widely regarded as the true love of his life.
He had more than just a wandering eye - he loved women and had numerous flings and affairs. That's neither conservative nor liberal, I suppose.
He loved his children immensely - when his son was killed in a plane accident, Dino was never really the same and it started .
My gut tells me that he probably wasn't all that political. He probably had an old-world italian outlook on things - strong sense of family and especially loyalty, though not so much that would keep him from indulging in flings with attractive young women (he was even married to a woman in her young 20s late in his life, though it didn't last long). He probably had a live and let live attitude in a variety of things, but by the same token probably had great respect for society's traditions and conventions to a large extent.
The answer is 'I don't know what his politics were,' but my feeling is that he had what we would consider in 2004 a strong natural conservative instinct, but probably wouldn't be too overboard on any issue. I'd guess he would be a conservative leaning moderate who would probably not like flargant departures from tradition and western culture - same sex marriage, for instance.
Sinatra later in life was a Reagan man. Jerry Lewis, Dean's partner for many years, is pretty liberal, I think, as well as delusional. He recently 'confessed' to a torrid sexual affair with Marilyn Monroe, for example, which crosses well over into the delusional.
Just my gut. I don't think Dean would be a big conservative, though I am farily certain that given the focus and fixation of the highest profile liberal causes in 2004, he wouldn't be aligned very rightly with them at all, either.
Then, as now, too many uninformed people accept what the Dems say at face value without exploring the background behind the party--especially the people who contribute, mobilize for, and control the party's national leadership. For example, very few guys on the line who get the shop steward's voter guides understand how radicalized the leadership of their party--and their union--is.
Many people writing at FR are of the mistaken opinion that the Democrat party wasn't radicalized until late in the 60's. This is false. If you look at FDR's advisers, you will find a continuous thread between the Lefties, Socialists, Progressives, and fellow travelers of the 1930's and their children in the 1950's and 60's. One difference is that some (but not all) were anticommunists. The class warfare and identity politics of the Democrat party began seriously, though, with the New Deal.
One of the reasons the Dems are now talking about "talking about values" is that they realize just talking the talk is enough to keep literally millions of people on board. It has been doing so since 1932.
There's a book available that collects letters written to and by Ronald Reagan. There are several from Sinatra, and his support for the President was deep. I'll have to look and see if there's anything in there from Dean Martin.
That's just it. It would be wrong to compare a 1950's Dem to a 2004 Dem. The 60's took the Democratic Party to an unrecognizable place. Heck, even Reagan was a Democrat until the party was hijacked by the hard left.
Kirk Douglas a Republican? I dont think so, I saw him and his son Michael Douglas on TV a few years back after he had his stroke, and he didnt sound very Republican to me.
The Rat Pack campaigned for Kennedy back in 1960. If Dean was a Repub he must have knuckled under to the Chairman during the Kennedy campaign.
Just try to take away his gun....heck, his kind of Democrat then would be a solid red-stater today
He refused once to stay at Sinatras house because Sinatra was a Democrat, so the story goes. So he decided to stay at Crosby's house because he was a Republican. I could be extrapolating a bit here, but he could be a pubbie.
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