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Man Kills Himself With Chainsaw During Arrest
Omaha.com ^
| 12/22/04
| Kristin Zagurski
Posted on 12/22/2004 2:49:02 PM PST by gopwinsin04
Grand Island police went to the man's business about 5PM Tuesday to serve a federal arrest warrant for being a felon in possession of a firearm, said Deb Collins a Nebraska State Patrol spokeswoman.
Paul Smidt Jr. 40, refused officers acess to the building, Smidt Lawn Care, anD barricaded himself inside.
Negoiations continued until after midnight when officers got into the building. Smidt, armed with a chain saw, barricaded himself in a bathroom at the back of the business.
Officers got into the bathroom and orderd Smidt to drop the chainsaw. When he refused, an officer fired a non-lethal beanbag at Smidt, who then lowered his head into the chain saw, taking his own life.
'He did not stumble or fall onto the chain saw,' Collins said.
All the officers who were on duty Wednesday were to undergo a stress debriefing.
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TOPICS: Local News; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: chainsaw
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Definitely a buzz kill..
To: gopwinsin04
Cops: "I said "still", not "stihl""
To: gopwinsin04
(Rimshot in the backround!)
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posted on
12/22/2004 2:50:20 PM PST
by
MahaMarty
(This'll probably get me suspended...AGAIN!)
To: gopwinsin04
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posted on
12/22/2004 2:50:38 PM PST
by
steveo
(Member: Fathers Against Rude Television)
To: gopwinsin04
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posted on
12/22/2004 2:50:56 PM PST
by
mtbopfuyn
To: gopwinsin04
Makes you wonder if the beanbag nailed him and he fell from the hit into the saw...
Nothing to lose your head over tho.
To: gopwinsin04
Getting arrested is nothing to lose your head over.
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posted on
12/22/2004 2:51:19 PM PST
by
KidGlock
(W-1)
To: gopwinsin04
How long until his survivors sue the chainsaw company?
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posted on
12/22/2004 2:51:26 PM PST
by
Luddite Patent Counsel
("No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the Legislature is in session.")
To: RedBloodedAmerican
You really have to keep your head about you in a situation like that!
To: steveo
To: RedBloodedAmerican
Cops: "I said "still", not "stihl" Thanks...a PERFECTLY good Captain Morgan's and egg nog all over the place.
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posted on
12/22/2004 2:52:53 PM PST
by
who knows what evil?
(If arrogance was beauty, New England women would be supermodels!)
To: KidGlock
To: gopwinsin04
Aw, this story ain't real...you're just Poulan my leg.
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posted on
12/22/2004 2:55:40 PM PST
by
AngryJawa
(Now Accepting Ammo Donations)
To: gopwinsin04
Dude musta had a self esteem problem... I'm sure some liberal shrink coulda fixed him.
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posted on
12/22/2004 2:56:09 PM PST
by
Gerasimov
(John Kerry just got his SECOND dishonorable discharge.)
To: gopwinsin04
I guess he was a cut above the rest!
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posted on
12/22/2004 3:01:00 PM PST
by
Americanwolf
(Americanwolf......Independent Voter with a Nasty streak to the right of Attila The Hun!)
To: gopwinsin04
to serve a federal arrest warrant for being a felon in possession of a firearmFunny thing is he doesn't appear to have had one ;~D
To: Luddite Patent Counsel
Undoubtedly chain brake malfunction, or if not that how about sueing the oil company or electrical company that supplied the ammunition? Someones got to be at fault.
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posted on
12/22/2004 3:10:41 PM PST
by
Alaska Wolf
(Trained by English Setters)
To: HairOfTheDog
to serve a federal arrest warrant for being a felon in possession of a firearm Never bring a chainsaw to a gun fight.
To: gopwinsin04
Now c'mon...think about it. The chain on ALL chainsaws rotates AWAY from you on the top. If you hold it in your hands out in front of you, the chain travels away from you. It would have to be throttled up, and hit hard on top to prevent the peice (his HEAD in this case!) from just "riding" off the end in the direction of the chain. It's akin to cutting wood with the top of the bar. Not impossible, but much less preferred on account of chain rotation direction.
Strange enough, I was reading about energy transfer of "less than lethal" ammo (including beanbag) just this morning. 200FtLbs transfered to ANY part of your body is enough to bring you to the ground, almost immediately. My neighbor just across the road is a drug LEO and he tells me they have NEVER zapped a perp with the beanbag gun where the perp did NOT go down HARD!
If shot from the front, center mass, it's enough to knock a 185lb man back two steps. Was he shot from the back and propelled forward, onto the saw as he fell? This might explain how he ended up with his head in the saw.
In spite of being whacked with a 200FtLb chunk-o-flying-beanbag, this guy had the presense of mind to apparently think about this, and "...then lowered his head into the chain saw..."
If this was a "newer" chainsaw (than anything made up until the mid 70s or so), it will have had a safety on it that ensures that you have a GOOD grip on the handle before unlocking the throttle. It works a LOT like the grip safety on a 1911 .45 ACP pistol.
I'm not saying that the guy didn't do EXACTLY as the LEOs say. I'm just saying that it's not very believable. It sounds very fishy to me.
I'm willing to bet that these poor cops had a real "OOPSIE" sort of moment when they tagged this guy with the beanbag gun from behind and watched in shock as he fell headlong into the chainsaw at full throttle.
WHATEVER happened exactly, it had to be one nasty scene!
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posted on
12/22/2004 3:34:29 PM PST
by
hiredhand
( "Pudge the Indestructible Kitty" lives at - http://www.justonemorefarm.com)
To: hiredhand
Agreed. Somebody needs to look into this a little more closely.. I have great sympathy for LEOs and the job they do -- but I sense a little CYA going' on here.
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posted on
12/22/2004 3:38:55 PM PST
by
BenLurkin
(Big government is still a big problem.)
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