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My Computer Has a Virus---Turns off by itself! (Can someone help)
Personal ^ | 1-22-05 | Me

Posted on 01/22/2005 3:45:24 PM PST by zoobee

Can anyone help me? I have a computer here (My brothers actually) that constantly turns on and off by itself. Sometimes it doesn't even let you boot up until the 4th or 5th self-rebooting....it tries and then starts over and over again.

I remember not too long ago a virus did this and was hoping someone in here could tell me what virus did that....and how I can fix it? It won't let you get online either.....

No...he did not have a firewall and let Norton expire......I yelled at him already.... :)


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: dontpushtheoffbutton; help; iamsonotloggedin; microsoft; spyware; virus; windows
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1 posted on 01/22/2005 3:45:25 PM PST by zoobee
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To: zoobee

What computer do you have?


2 posted on 01/22/2005 3:46:20 PM PST by cyborg
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To: zoobee

Blaster worm and it's variants.


3 posted on 01/22/2005 3:46:38 PM PST by Middle-O-Road (In favor of blowing all terrorists to China, via other hotter places where they'll linger a while.)
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To: zoobee
More details please. Laptop, Desktop. Did you check the power supply/battery?


4 posted on 01/22/2005 3:47:11 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: cyborg

It is a AMD/WinXp.


5 posted on 01/22/2005 3:47:11 PM PST by zoobee (http://www.mycathatesyou.com)
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To: zoobee
Can you boot from a floppy?


6 posted on 01/22/2005 3:47:56 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: zoobee

Time for a ReFormat? I usually reformat every year or so, if not because of junk like you're experiencing, then because Windows is only good for a year or so.


7 posted on 01/22/2005 3:47:58 PM PST by natewill (Start the revolution NOW!)
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To: Middle-O-Road

Oh, I'm assuming XP. To fix it, enable the built in firewall, go online and download a removal tool. If it's an OS other than XP, you'll have to install new AV software to remove the virus, or go to another computer and download the removal tool from one of the anti-virus company's web sites.


8 posted on 01/22/2005 3:48:16 PM PST by Middle-O-Road (In favor of blowing all terrorists to China, via other hotter places where they'll linger a while.)
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To: darkwing104

IT's a desktop---AMD/AThlon/XP....I can't turn it on until I disconnect my own. I brought it home with me. I never thot about the power supply....how can I tell if it's burning out? Or if the battery is dying?


9 posted on 01/22/2005 3:48:26 PM PST by zoobee (http://www.mycathatesyou.com)
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To: zoobee

Fill us in. What version of Windows? Let me guess - W95 or W98 or Millenium? How old is it? What cards do you have in it? Reason I ask is because a while back I had that problem and I believe it was resolved by either replacing the Power Supply 'cause the video card (ATI ALL-In-Wonder) and the other cards were finally taxing it too much or bad device drivers. I forget.


10 posted on 01/22/2005 3:48:36 PM PST by time4good
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To: zoobee

Format and reinstall. Easy as 3.1415926535897932384626433832795.


11 posted on 01/22/2005 3:48:47 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: zoobee; daviddennis

free online virus scan/remover:

http://housecall.trendmicro.com/


12 posted on 01/22/2005 3:49:48 PM PST by ambrose
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To: zoobee

if it's a laptop, check the fans before you spend money on software. Laptops shut down if they're overheating, one of my friends had the same random issue show up, and two weeks of service calls later it turned out to be a fan issue.


13 posted on 01/22/2005 3:50:04 PM PST by jz638
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To: zoobee

Still bet on the power supply - what cards video,etc are in it?


14 posted on 01/22/2005 3:50:05 PM PST by time4good
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To: zoobee
This may or may not be a virus.

It could be a case of the computer running hot, and shuts down automatically to protect itself.


Real men don't whine.

15 posted on 01/22/2005 3:50:13 PM PST by rdb3 (The wife asked how I slept last night. I said, "How do I know? I was asleep!")
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To: Middle-O-Road

Isn't it too late to start a firewall? From the way it's acting...it's getting to the black screen (where you press F@ to enter it)...then it stops and reboots again.....isn't that the registry? Would a firewall NOW help that? Just a guess on my part...maybe it's not the registry...


16 posted on 01/22/2005 3:50:19 PM PST by zoobee (http://www.mycathatesyou.com)
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To: Middle-O-Road

the Beeber board has been stuned


17 posted on 01/22/2005 3:50:28 PM PST by al baby (she stuned my little beeber)
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To: zoobee

The restarting could be due to a setting in the BIOS. Get into the BIOS and check to see if there is a setting that restarts or shuts down the system when a serious error is detected. Turn it off then you should be able to get in and troubleshoot the virus.


18 posted on 01/22/2005 3:50:48 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: zoobee

Boot to safemode (F8) at startup, install and run Adaware or Spybot (search google) .

If you're able to to get the computer to boot from there, install Zonealarm, go to windowsupdate.com and install all necessary updates, the install Microsoft's antispyware tool. THis will give him a safeguard in the future.

However, if the computer is old or low quality, there could also be a hardware failure causing the poweroffs. (Most likely RAM or powersupply)


19 posted on 01/22/2005 3:50:50 PM PST by mikenola
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To: zoobee
Help for viruses and malware:
 
 Ad-Aware ... Spybot ... Peper Uninstaller ... HijackThis... CWShredder ... Spyware Blaster ... IE Spyad ... Free online Virus scan ... AVG AntiVirus ... LSPfix ... How to Show Hidden Files ... How to boot into Safe Mode ... How did I get infected in the first place?


Things you need--(all FREE)
Anti-Virus
AVG
 Avast
Firewall
Kerio(Direct Download) Zone Alarm
 If are using zone alarm it may slow your PC. Try Outpost Firewall http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpost or Sygate Firewall http://www.sygate.com/, both have FREE and Pro versions and are heads above ZA.
Misc.
IE Spyads SpywareBlaster Spyware Guard
Windows Update- you must keep updated, it is the start of a secure system-
get all CRITICAL Updates

Things you want(Still Free)
 
 Get Firefox I use Firefox PR1 and IMHO, beats the sox off MS Explorer. Life is good with tabs. Click the link and give it a try.

Ad-Aware
Spybot S&D
SpywareBlaster
MS MVP Hosts file
Mike Lin's Homepage and get the Startup Control Panel and Startup Monitor tools.

20 posted on 01/22/2005 3:50:57 PM PST by jdm (Stockhausen, Kagel, Xenakis -- world capitals or avant-garde composers?)
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To: zoobee
IT's a desktop---AMD/AThlon/XP....I can't turn it on until I disconnect my own. I brought it home with me. I never thot about the power supply....how can I tell if it's burning out? Or if the battery is dying?

Try booting from a floppy first. If it does the same thing, then you have a hardware problem


21 posted on 01/22/2005 3:50:58 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: zoobee

sounds to me like it is more likely a power supply about to take a complete dump. I've seen them do exactly what you have described.


22 posted on 01/22/2005 3:51:36 PM PST by diverteach (signs of the times. whatcha gonna do... \o/)
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To: Middle-O-Road

Oh, in more detail, to enable the built in firewall, open your connections (Start, Connect To, Show All Connections) in XP and right click on your internet connection and click on the advanced tab and check 'enable firewall.' Then go online and download a scan and remove tool. Run the tool and voila!


23 posted on 01/22/2005 3:51:42 PM PST by Middle-O-Road (In favor of blowing all terrorists to China, via other hotter places where they'll linger a while.)
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To: zoobee

If the case is running hot, it will start acting weird. Computers act weird when they get hot, or when the power supply is about to crap out on you.


24 posted on 01/22/2005 3:51:45 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: time4good

I don't know what cards they have except I see a cd writer, a drive (wow) and regular cd. IT has a lot of software including Ghost! I was hoping there was a file I could remove from the registry?? (If I can get her up!)


25 posted on 01/22/2005 3:52:10 PM PST by zoobee (http://www.mycathatesyou.com)
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To: rdb3

Love your tag line rdb3. rofl.


26 posted on 01/22/2005 3:52:25 PM PST by Unknown Freeper
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To: rdb3

Usually when the computer runs hot, it doesn't start shuting down until it's been on a while.


27 posted on 01/22/2005 3:53:06 PM PST by Middle-O-Road (In favor of blowing all terrorists to China, via other hotter places where they'll linger a while.)
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To: zoobee
Might be the Sasser Worm.
28 posted on 01/22/2005 3:53:16 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: zoobee
You might give this a try: AVG Antivirus (Free version)
29 posted on 01/22/2005 3:53:27 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: zoobee

you have to bite the bullet and get norton and make a boot disk


30 posted on 01/22/2005 3:53:40 PM PST by Mr. K (all your tagline are belong to us)
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To: zoobee

you have to bite the bullet and get norton and make a boot disk


31 posted on 01/22/2005 3:53:40 PM PST by Mr. K (all your tagline are belong to us)
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To: rdb3

They recently added Cable to it....and one day he tells me that he couldn't even shut it down because a message said that someone was using it....so that's when I asked him if he had a firewall and asked me what that was....so CABLE and NO FIREWALL.....someone took it over. He had to pull the plug to shut it down.....I think it started there?


32 posted on 01/22/2005 3:54:04 PM PST by zoobee (http://www.mycathatesyou.com)
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To: zoobee

Depends on when it reboots.


33 posted on 01/22/2005 3:54:15 PM PST by Middle-O-Road (In favor of blowing all terrorists to China, via other hotter places where they'll linger a while.)
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To: zoobee

Assuming Windows...

Go to Start> Run and type "shutdown -r" (no " marks) and click "ok". This will prevent your machine from shutting itself down while you try to solve the real problem (the virus).


34 posted on 01/22/2005 3:54:39 PM PST by JenB
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To: zoobee

Despite what a lot of people have been telling you, the problem you describe is (98% of the time) your power supply crow barring. Not much you can do about it but replace the power supply. They aren't that expensive.


35 posted on 01/22/2005 3:54:56 PM PST by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gultch.)
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To: DouglasKC

NOOOOO!! Do not tell a non-technical person to go into the BIOS. No, no, no!


36 posted on 01/22/2005 3:55:16 PM PST by Middle-O-Road (In favor of blowing all terrorists to China, via other hotter places where they'll linger a while.)
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To: jdm

He has SPYWARE ZAPPER on it because it was the first screen that popped up when I was able to get it up.....but whether it was updated recently is anyones guess ......


37 posted on 01/22/2005 3:55:54 PM PST by zoobee (http://www.mycathatesyou.com)
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To: zoobee

You may have a faulty power supply, not a virus. If you can, get someone to let you borrow their power supply to check it out.

A replacement would cost you about $50.


38 posted on 01/22/2005 3:55:55 PM PST by Bullish
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To: darkwing104

Not true. A lot of viruses launch from the registry and booting to a floppy will not get around the problem.


39 posted on 01/22/2005 3:56:26 PM PST by Middle-O-Road (In favor of blowing all terrorists to China, via other hotter places where they'll linger a while.)
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To: zoobee

Read an article recently that said that when you first connect to the internet the average wait time until a hacker tries to break in is 30 - 60 seconds.


40 posted on 01/22/2005 3:56:49 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: zoobee
Tape something over the power button.. you know..
some chewed gum, a beer cap, a bandaid. It's rookie knowledge.

I have somebody's University of Texas ring taped over mine.

41 posted on 01/22/2005 3:57:18 PM PST by humblegunner (And who knows what else?)
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To: ambrose

CAn I download that to a floppy? That is all I have in common with this machine and I need to transfer info since it doesn't seem to let me online......although I haven't tried with my dial AOL yet :) (No comments please on the AOL....I already know....)


42 posted on 01/22/2005 3:57:28 PM PST by zoobee (http://www.mycathatesyou.com)
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To: zoobee

Noooooo! Don't go into the registry and remove anything or it can hose your system and you'll be stuck reinstalling. If you have a virus, a removal tool is best.


43 posted on 01/22/2005 3:58:01 PM PST by Middle-O-Road (In favor of blowing all terrorists to China, via other hotter places where they'll linger a while.)
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To: darkwing104

What do I need on the floppy to boot up? I am presently on a win2000 machine....can I copy necessary boot files to the broken xp?


44 posted on 01/22/2005 3:58:48 PM PST by zoobee (http://www.mycathatesyou.com)
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To: cyborg
My Computer Has a Virus---Turns off by itself! (Can someone help)

What computer do you have?

Brand, he**! I think my wife's got it!

45 posted on 01/22/2005 3:59:17 PM PST by sayfer bullets
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To: Middle-O-Road
"NOOOOO!! Do not tell a non-technical person to go into the BIOS. No, no, no!"

Yeah, really! What were you thinking?!


46 posted on 01/22/2005 3:59:42 PM PST by jdm (Stockhausen, Kagel, Xenakis -- world capitals or avant-garde composers?)
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To: zoobee

That message is related to your networking. It doesn't necessarily cause a problem. When it says a user is still connected, it's because file sharing is enabled - the user that's connected could be the system itself!

To eliminate this message, you can turn off file sharing.


47 posted on 01/22/2005 4:00:13 PM PST by Middle-O-Road (In favor of blowing all terrorists to China, via other hotter places where they'll linger a while.)
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To: zoobee
Most likey he has at least one virus or Trojan if not more. He is going to have to get a anti-virus program, perhaps he can boot up in Safe-Mode and attack it that way.

I don't recall the name of that particular virus, but I do remember that you needed the latest patches for Windows so it so make sure he gets all the patches he needs to bring his OS up to speed.

Worst case scenario, reformat the drive.

Jen
48 posted on 01/22/2005 4:00:42 PM PST by IVote2 ( God Bless the United States of America and the people who make it great.)
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To: Bullish

OK...alot of people seem to think it's the power supply.....wish there was a way to tell by lookin at it....


49 posted on 01/22/2005 4:01:52 PM PST by zoobee (http://www.mycathatesyou.com)
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To: sayfer bullets

LOL


50 posted on 01/22/2005 4:02:06 PM PST by cyborg
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