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Artificial sweeteners like aspartame and sucralose may actually promote obesity and weight gain
Diabetes Factor ^ | Friday, January 28, 2005

Posted on 01/29/2005 2:37:15 PM PST by jb6

Groundbreaking new research published in the International Journal of Obesity reveals that artificial sweeteners like aspartame and sucralose -- precisely the kinds of chemical sweeteners found in diet soft drinks or many low-carb food products -- may actually promote obesity by tricking the body into thinking that sweet-tasting foods and drinks don't contain as many calories as they really do.

In the experiments, rats who were fed artificially-sweetened foods tended to overeat foods containing real sweeteners, causing them to gain weight. In humans, it's the same result: drink diet soft drinks and consume enough foods made with artificial sweeteners, and you'll very likely overeat the sweets when the real thing comes along: apple pie, cookies, cake, ice cream, and so on.

This result is rather obvious, come to think of it: I don't recall ever seeing a thin person buying a twelve-pack of diet Pepsi at the grocery store. The people you see buying diet soft drinks are inevitably overweight or obese. Obviously, if diet soft drinks made people thin, you'd see lots of thin people buying them, right? It's common sense.

Further, all the thin people I know (including myself) wouldn't touch diet soft drinks, nor regular soft drinks. In fact, soft drinks are simply off the menu for anyone concerned with their health. They tend to be consumed by lower-income, lower-intelligence people who are more prone to advertiser influence and can't think for themselves.

But the real problem with artificial sweeteners today is their skyrocketing use in low-carb foods: Sucralose is used in practically every low-carb food bar, drink, snack, recipe or meal. And Sucralose very likely has the same effect as aspartame in this case: it trains your body to overconsume genuine refined carbohydrates when you encounter them.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: chemicals; culture; diet; foods; health

1 posted on 01/29/2005 2:37:16 PM PST by jb6
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To: jb6

Man.... you had to see that coming.


2 posted on 01/29/2005 2:38:21 PM PST by IMRight ("Eye" See BS)
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To: jb6

An amazing combination of arrogance and stupidity.


3 posted on 01/29/2005 2:38:49 PM PST by ScottFromSpokane (http://drunkengop.blogspot.com/)
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To: jb6

Aspartame causes headaches too.


4 posted on 01/29/2005 2:39:17 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: jb6; neverdem

Shoot, I didn't need a study to tell me that.


5 posted on 01/29/2005 2:39:34 PM PST by farmfriend ( Congratulations. You are everything we've come to expect from years of government training.)
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To: jb6
>>>...it trains your body to overconsume genuine refined carbohydrates when you encounter them.

Only if you're stupid. Personal control. Read labels. Eat less. Exercise more. Loose weight.
6 posted on 01/29/2005 2:39:44 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Common Sense is an Oxymoron)
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To: jb6
-- may actually promote obesity by tricking the body into thinking that sweet-tasting foods and drinks don't contain as many calories as they really do.

Er, isn't this why we have brains?

7 posted on 01/29/2005 2:41:21 PM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: jb6

"all the thin people I know (including myself) wouldn't touch diet soft drinks, nor regular soft drinks. In fact, soft drinks are simply off the menu for anyone concerned with their health. They tend to be consumed by lower-income, lower-intelligence people"

This person may not be full of fat or sugar but is definitely full of phooey!


8 posted on 01/29/2005 2:44:19 PM PST by pepperdog
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To: jb6

I beileve it. How many thin people do you see drinking diet cokes?


9 posted on 01/29/2005 2:44:20 PM PST by Bommer (JFK - "Pay any Cost! Bare any Burden" TFK "I'll pay what you want and bare my @ss!")
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To: k2blader

don't know if sucralose is that bad but I've studied supplements and nutrition for years and you are right. Aspartame is an excito-toxin and can really cause chaos in the brain after heavy use for many many years. don't quote me here but I believe it metabolizes into aspartic acid and wood alcohol or something like that.........it is the worst of the lot


10 posted on 01/29/2005 2:44:52 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: jb6

"They tend to be consumed by lower-income, lower-intelligence people who are more prone to advertiser influence and can't think for themselves."

And you deduced this from the fact that you don't consume them yourself? Have any other "evidence" of your claim?



11 posted on 01/29/2005 2:45:18 PM PST by DB ()
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To: jb6
There is an effect aspartame has that is a bit unusual. It causes an elevation in insulin levels. This then causes more calories to be shunted to muscles first followed by fat for storage.

I am not aware of this effect with sucralose (Splenda), acesulfame potassium, or saccharin. However, all of the above sweeteners are loaded onto either maltodextrin or dextrose (which are carbohydrate sources) to provide "bulk" (these sweeteners are 200+ times sweeter than sugar by volume in their natural state). So we are still ingesting carbs and other calories as we eat, but just not eating as many simple sugar grams.

Interestingly, diet soda has no calories, so when having NutraSweet-sweetened beverages without some sort of caloric food, you will feel like you need to eat a bit of something. But even this is countered by the caffeine which can serve to curb hunger.

I don't know if I would agree with the article on all points, but it makes some good points.

But I do see thin people drinking diet sodas where I live.
12 posted on 01/29/2005 2:48:07 PM PST by ScottM1968
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To: Bommer

Me, 6',160.



13 posted on 01/29/2005 2:48:47 PM PST by ThinkPlease (Fortune Favors the Bold!)
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To: NorCalRepub

Thank you for the scientific confirmation. I had been basing my opinion on feedback from friends and family. I try not to touch the stuff. And besides, plain ol' sugar tastes better. :-)


14 posted on 01/29/2005 2:50:06 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: ThinkPlease

Damn dude! why drink diet? Only real coke will kill a tapeworm like that! You need to start drinking Lard Cola!


15 posted on 01/29/2005 2:51:56 PM PST by Bommer (JFK - "Pay any Cost! Bare any Burden" TFK "I'll pay what you want and bare my @ss!")
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To: jb6
This result is rather obvious, come to think of it: I don't recall ever seeing a thin person buying a twelve-pack of diet Pepsi at the grocery store. The people you see buying diet soft drinks are inevitably overweight or obese. Obviously, if diet soft drinks made people thin, you'd see lots of thin people buying them, right? It's common sense.

Boy, I never see fat people wearing bikinis, either. Obviously, bikinis make people thing. It's common sense, right?

16 posted on 01/29/2005 2:54:13 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: ScottM1968
plus like you said....too much caffeine can create a cortisol induced fat storage
17 posted on 01/29/2005 2:54:22 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: jb6

Oh Jeez! What next?


18 posted on 01/29/2005 2:58:24 PM PST by CarryaBigStick
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To: Bommer
I beileve it. How many thin people do you see drinking diet cokes?

Well, I do :) But I don't order a Quarterpounder and fries with it.

19 posted on 01/29/2005 2:59:46 PM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: jb6
The WebMD article the above author read from states this:

"So many factors contribute to obesity," says Stettner. Although artificial sweeteners may alter the eating behavior of rats, he says the same principle may not necessarily apply to humans.

Swithers says that many types of learning processes translate from rats to humans, but she acknowledges that the loss of the ability to judge the calorie content of sweet foods is probably just one of the contributors to the rise in overweight and obesity.

However, she says humans also have a distinct advantage over rats when it comes to controlling how many calories they put into their body.

"Rats can't read the labels, but we can," says Swithers. "We have to take that extra step of reading the labels or asking how many calories are in there. That may be enough so that we can compensate for those sweet calories."

(This link is shown further down on the page to Diabetes Factor.)

http://my.webmd.com/content/article/89/100381.htm?z=1728_00000_1000_1n_01

20 posted on 01/29/2005 3:00:55 PM PST by ScottM1968
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To: ScottM1968

The link, working this time:

http://my.webmd.com/content/article/89/100381.htm?z=1728_00000_1000_1n_01


21 posted on 01/29/2005 3:02:01 PM PST by ScottM1968
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To: ScottM1968
However, all of the above sweeteners are loaded onto either maltodextrin or dextrose (which are carbohydrate sources) to provide "bulk" (these sweeteners are 200+ times sweeter than sugar by volume in their natural state).

Actually you can buy pure liquid sucralose off the internet. No carbs or fillers, just sweet.

22 posted on 01/29/2005 3:02:38 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum europe vincendarum)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I only thought such forms were available for manufacturers.

I will have to look for that! :-) (I guess I'll be putting on the weight now...)


23 posted on 01/29/2005 3:05:30 PM PST by ScottM1968
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To: ScottM1968
It's called Sweetzfree.
http://www.sweetzfree.com/

It is really very good. I have to be careful with fillers as they can cause...intestinal discomfort. Which means that most sugar free stuff off the shelf is off limits for me.
24 posted on 01/29/2005 3:14:07 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum europe vincendarum)
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To: jb6

Bump!


25 posted on 01/29/2005 3:33:59 PM PST by Perseverando
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To: jb6
Artificial sweeteners like aspartame and sucralose may actually promote obesity and weight gain .....

/FDA

26 posted on 01/29/2005 3:54:10 PM PST by maestro
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To: jb6

What's wrong with water, milk, juice, and good old *booze?*


27 posted on 01/29/2005 3:57:11 PM PST by valkyrieanne (card-carrying South Park Republican)
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To: k2blader
I've gone without consuming sugar (to the degree humanly possible) for the last 11 months.

I can now smell carmel upwind of the source, and as far as 4 miles away ~ in my sleep!

You probably don't need to eat as much sugar as you do.

28 posted on 01/29/2005 4:19:20 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: valkyrieanne
Milk has lactose. Juice has fructose, and sometimes glucose, and sucrose.

Aged cheddar cheese has little or no lactose. I enjoy watching other people eat oranges, and so forth.

29 posted on 01/29/2005 4:21:40 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
I can now smell carmel upwind of the source, and as far as 4 miles away ~ in my sleep!

LOL You really can.

Carmel and cinnamon buns, those are the only things I occasionally still crave.

30 posted on 01/29/2005 5:48:01 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum europe vincendarum)
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To: muawiyah

Exercise and eat in moderation and you'll be ok. The natural sugars break down faster. There is also Lactose free milk.


31 posted on 01/29/2005 9:48:30 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: ScottM1968
"Rats can't read the labels, but we can," says Swithers. "We have to take that extra step of reading the labels or asking how many calories are in there. That may be enough so that we can compensate for those sweet calories."

Unfortunetly too many people either have a rat's intelligence or are just so hopelessly lazy they don't care to take care of themselves: would disrupt their indulgent life style. The worst part is: if you indulge all the time, anything special about it goes away.

32 posted on 01/29/2005 9:51:04 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: ThinkPlease
Me, 5'10, 201 and a 33 inch waist.
33 posted on 01/29/2005 9:52:40 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: jb6; RaceBannon; Doctor Raoul
Further, all the thin people I know (including myself) wouldn't touch diet soft drinks, nor regular soft drinks. In fact, soft drinks are simply off the menu for anyone concerned with their health. They tend to be consumed by lower-income, lower-intelligence people who are more prone to advertiser influence and can't think for themselves.

Uh, I don't think so...


34 posted on 01/29/2005 10:04:47 PM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: Bommer

I am fat and I dont drink diet drinks, but I do use the pink sugar substitute for my coffee...maybe it IS true?

I get a sugar jones sometimes like you cannot imagine!


35 posted on 01/29/2005 10:16:01 PM PST by RaceBannon (((awaiting new tag line)))
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To: Bommer

Well, to be honest, I also have run about 1600 miles a year over the past two years. It helps keep that weight down. I don't drink sugared soda because I did some major damage to my teeth in college due to my 3 Mountain Dew a day habit. I'm down to about one sugared soda every two weeks or so, because I have about ten potential cavities I'm holding at bay.


36 posted on 01/30/2005 7:13:01 AM PST by ThinkPlease (Fortune Favors the Bold!)
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To: jb6

When water is deemed fattening, I will have a good reason to switch to beer.


37 posted on 01/30/2005 7:15:07 AM PST by cynicom (<p)
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To: jb6

I have had better results with weight loss when I dump diet soft drinks. Splenda does seem to be different and I have not heard any official declaration that this causes weight gain too. Any one know if Splanda is off gray list?


38 posted on 01/30/2005 7:20:36 AM PST by BellStar (Obesity is the outward proof you are still not clean and sober!)
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To: jb6
No, not "eat in moderation" ~ I have to exclude whole huge categories of food from my diet otherwise I end up with blood sugar counts in the 300s.

It takes dedicated fanaticism to keep Type II diabetes under control.

39 posted on 01/30/2005 7:23:47 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Oh, I didn't realize you were diabetic. I was speaking for myself. I might snack to much on sugary stuff, to tell the truth, but I keep away from Soda, most of the time (drink it about once every two to four days) and eat twice a day (all I really need). I think I run off of about a 2,000 to 2,500 calory diet. I'm 5'10", 201 lbs (now my thick skull might make up about 30lb of that :0) ) and have a 33" waist. I exercise about three to four times a week, lots of weight lifting, usually to muscle fatigue.

The exercise tends to speed up my metabolism and burn more calories.

40 posted on 01/30/2005 1:29:36 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: ThinkPlease

When I was in the Balkans, my CO was a cola nut. We could grab as many soft drinks as we wanted and before every patrol he grabbed 3 cokes (daily). How he didn't pass out from the heat drinking that crap I have no idea. Great guy, though, but his teeth were brown.


41 posted on 01/30/2005 1:31:10 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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