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Shiavo-Judge George W. Greer and what can be done about him by the Florida Constitution
me | 3/25/05 | me

Posted on 03/24/2005 3:39:26 PM PST by pulaskibush

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To: pulaskibush
Judge Greer is now KING GREER! He has given the fnger to the Congress and the President and the Governr...he cannot be stopped now....and their are HUNDREDS of other judges just waiting to be Kig of America also.

If Congress doesn't have a Contempt order for King Greer, they might as well all go home and let the judges run the country!

51 posted on 03/24/2005 4:18:43 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: CyberAnt

If Terri is killed I think the government should prosecute that whole filthy bunch down there, under RICO.

That's right after they call up Greer to answer for his contempt of Congress subpoena that he ignored!


52 posted on 03/24/2005 4:18:58 PM PST by Humidston (Rats = Party of DEATH)
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To: agrace

Well .. it was a news article I was reading - and it also said that there is another judge from the same county who's wife also sits on the board.

I had no reason to disbelieve it. If somebody can prove that is false information - fine. Since media is well-known for not getting their facts correct - I would presume someone would have corrected me by now.


53 posted on 03/24/2005 4:19:16 PM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Diogenesis

Even by the low standards of lawyers' ethics, it should have been incumbent upon Greer to recuse himself. I think what comes out about the players in this case will not be comfortable for supporters of Michael.


54 posted on 03/24/2005 4:20:05 PM PST by AmishDude (The Clown Prince-in-a-can of Free Republic!)
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To: Conservative4Ever

GOD have mercy upon America - if we do not correct this horrible judicial situation - and keep them from killing Terri.


55 posted on 03/24/2005 4:20:43 PM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: rodguy911
Re:empirejournal

There is a wealth of info there.BTW,do you know if they tracked down the hacker?

56 posted on 03/24/2005 4:20:51 PM PST by smoothsailing (Eagles Up !!)
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To: pulaskibush

bump


57 posted on 03/24/2005 4:21:42 PM PST by chainsaw (We are going to take things away from you for the common good. - H. Clinton June of 2004)
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To: CyberAnt
Thanks cyberAnt.
What really got me was how a lowlife asst. State Attorney, Bernie McCabe, for Pasco/Pinellas counties could have an FDLE investigation stopped. Stuff like that is totally unprecedented and the agents are ready and willing to be subpoenaed accd. to the Empire Journal piece.

This thing has so many links it boggles the mind.
58 posted on 03/24/2005 4:21:54 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: pulaskibush

Hearhear!


59 posted on 03/24/2005 4:22:37 PM PST by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: CyberAnt

Really. I haven't read that. I have heard about the other judge's wife - his name is John Lenderman and his wife is Martha - but a google search nets nothing on Patricia Greer. I'm not saying it's not true, just that it hasn't been proven.

In fact a freeper on another thread posted that they called the hospice and asked and was told that Greer's wife is not a board member.

Of course, they're being federally investigated for medicare fraud so who knows if they're telling the truth. :)


60 posted on 03/24/2005 4:23:07 PM PST by agrace
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To: Diogenesis

is that supposed to be funny?


61 posted on 03/24/2005 4:23:08 PM PST by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: CyberAnt
he discounted everything that went against the husband. ...Also .. Judge Greer's wife sits on the board of directors for the Hospice where Terri is. Looks like we have a little collusion goin' on here.

Yes. There is corruption to bilk vulnerable adults out of their money. They probably figured they couldn't get any more out of Terri's case so they're starving her to death now. Gotta make room for more vulnerable adults to bilk.

62 posted on 03/24/2005 4:25:06 PM PST by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: Diogenesis

I'm not waiting on anybody. It was the the judge himself who offered the rehearing. I was just offering my opinion on why he would have changed his mind. I don't think my opinion was illogical - in that being tainted by the Clintons may not be such a good idea anymore since the democrats' power is fading fast.

I just don't believe every judge appointed by Clinton was one of his sycophants. In fact, it's been stated that in some cases - the liberals have had to shop around to find a judge who will do what they want. That tells me that not all of them are willing accomplises.


63 posted on 03/24/2005 4:25:49 PM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: MissEdie

With judicial immunity--a protection judges have long granted themselves by common law--Greer can do anything he damn well pleases, as long as he's acting as a judge.


64 posted on 03/24/2005 4:26:39 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Re-elect Rossi in 2005!)
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To: pulaskibush

I'm sure the photo was real, I was just drawing comparisons to vampires.


65 posted on 03/24/2005 4:26:58 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
That's basically what Mark Levin said on Hannity earlier. Kind of scary.
66 posted on 03/24/2005 4:28:01 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: CyberAnt

Whittemore is probably on the phone as we write, getting his democrat instructions as to how to parse this newer material so that he can say, 'sorry, you don't have much of a chance to win so I'm going to refuse to review this case so admirably judged by our, er Florida's judge Greer'. This appointee is tasked with insulating the starvin' judge so the democrats don't risk being embarassed by a possible Terri Schiavo improvement with therapy.


67 posted on 03/24/2005 4:28:16 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: CyberAnt

What's this about a judge ordering a rehearing? I missed that. Which judge? Greer?


68 posted on 03/24/2005 4:30:03 PM PST by GloriaJane ("How Many Babies Are Crying In Heaven Tonight" http://music.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: agrace

That's interesting info - and you're right - just because you ask them about her doesn't mean they're telling the truth.

And .. I guess you could consider that she might have resigned because of the fraud investigation - so while she WAS a member of the board she no longer is.

Well .. I'll keep my eye open for that info.


69 posted on 03/24/2005 4:30:51 PM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: rodguy911
Our judiciary would work far better if judicial immunity was repealed. Judges should have to live under the same laws they interpret for the rest of us--even the same ones they illegally write. If they were swamped with a flurry of lawsuits for all their poor behavior, they'd have to straighten up sooner or later.

Our legislative branches were supposed to keep the judicial branches clean through the use of impeachment, but the legislative weenies don't have the backbone to bring about impeachment in all but the worst cases. Furthermore, the 'Rats have found an unruly judiciary to be in their best interests, which makes impeachment even more unlikely. If the legislative weenies won't do their job of keeping the judiciary under control, the people need to take over the job and to do that judicial immunity needs to be eliminated.

70 posted on 03/24/2005 4:35:23 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Re-elect Rossi in 2005!)
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To: Terriergal

Well .. I've been told Greer's wife isn't a board member - so I don't know which is true.

Regardless .. I just feel this judge has leaned toward the husband and just won't take any evidence to the contrary.

And I have read that there was some motion or something about the husband being replaced as her guardian in 11/02 - and it's never been acted upon.


71 posted on 03/24/2005 4:37:06 PM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: rodguy911

But .. that's how they hide things .. it has so many fingers that you can't find all the pieces.

I've noticed this is a characteristic of the LEFT .. if you look at some of their websites, they have lists and lists of other leftist organizations which support them. It's mind boggling.


72 posted on 03/24/2005 4:40:38 PM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Humidston

I'm not sure I heard that Congress issued Greer a subpoena - I thought it was mainly the Shindler family and Terri.


73 posted on 03/24/2005 4:44:16 PM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: GloriaJane

The federal guy - Whitten?? something - he already turned them down once before - but he called a hearing for 6 pm ET - as far as I know - there has been no ruling from that hearing .. or if there is I missed it.


74 posted on 03/24/2005 4:49:47 PM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: GloriaJane

Here's a link to a new story:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1370152/posts


75 posted on 03/24/2005 4:53:35 PM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington

I would suspect that this would cover him against lawsuits as well?


76 posted on 03/24/2005 5:00:26 PM PST by peter the great (Bret Schundler Next Governor of New Jersey)
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
I would agree but how do we do that. It seems no one has any guts anywhere anymore.
77 posted on 03/24/2005 5:01:17 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: CyberAnt
Amen! This is a watershed moment for our country. The killing..nay...murder of an innocent. This is an atrocity. As all abortions are an atrocity.

Red

78 posted on 03/24/2005 5:01:39 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (God bless America...land that I love...stand beside her and guide her...)
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To: CyberAnt
You are absolutely right but we have no choice and have to be up to the task.
79 posted on 03/24/2005 5:02:57 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: CyberAnt

Thank you!


80 posted on 03/24/2005 5:04:34 PM PST by GloriaJane ("How Many Babies Are Crying In Heaven Tonight" http://music.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: CyberAnt

Maybe my slant is wishful thinking, but I sure wouldn't want to place a wager with you!

...Praying that I'm right and you're wrong. ;-)


81 posted on 03/24/2005 5:32:27 PM PST by Humidston (Rats = Party of DEATH)
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To: CyberAnt
Also .. Judge Greer's wife sits on the board of directors for the Hospice where Terri is. Looks like we have a little collusion goin' on here. And .. this might explain why the nurses' good reports about Terri on the computers were always erased.

This just get better and better. Destruction of evidense is a felony; if it leads to a death it could be a class 2 murder felony.

ALso, check out this thread, the Judge Greer's corrupt seems to have no end to it: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1369351/posts

82 posted on 03/24/2005 5:38:01 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Diogenesis

wow, great chart -- nicely done!


83 posted on 03/24/2005 5:43:36 PM PST by cyn (it's sarcasm, but Jim King really said it.)
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To: Paul C. Jesup

By the way, I have been informed that somebody called the Hospice and they denied she was a member of their board.

So .. I'm not saying they're lying .. but I guess she could have been a board member and now she isn't. But at this point I dont know what the truth is about that issue.

I actually heard the nurse giving an interview and she said that this was done to her all the time. I believe the records were changed because there was money to provide for her rehab - but if the reports said she didn't respond - then no rehab would be required - and thus none of the money would be used.

I just want them to remove Terri from the Hospice and out from under the guardianship of the husband; replace the feeding tube; and review the case.

There is still a motion from 11/02 in which it was alleged that Michael was not fulfilling his mandated tasks as her guardian - and that he should be removed. This motion has never been adjudicated. WHY ..?? is my question.


84 posted on 03/24/2005 6:28:55 PM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: CyberAnt

Good questions and statements. I think this case may have uncovered something far more evil than we first thought.


85 posted on 03/24/2005 6:33:33 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: rodguy911

re: What about last minute death row appeals?

That is not a pardon. A pardon means your offense has been forgiven by the state. Last minute death row appeals only delay the execution, the prisoner must still answer for the crime.


86 posted on 03/24/2005 6:45:21 PM PST by jwpjr
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To: timestax

bttt


87 posted on 03/24/2005 7:31:21 PM PST by timestax
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To: timestax

bump


88 posted on 03/24/2005 7:37:04 PM PST by timestax
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To: Paul C. Jesup

Well .. whether a bunch of us have uncovered something more evil than anybody knew .. we need somebody to ACT on it.


89 posted on 03/24/2005 7:40:17 PM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: CyberAnt

bttt


90 posted on 03/24/2005 7:50:47 PM PST by timestax
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To: timestax

bump


91 posted on 03/24/2005 8:00:30 PM PST by timestax
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To: GloriaJane

Thank you. I just emailed Gonzales also. I hope it helps.

The email address again is AskDOJ@usdoj.gov

Let's flood them with email.

Let's also email Tom Davis and Mike Enzi asking that they serve the subpoenas they issued immediately.

And let's get hold of Jeb to urge him to use his executive power to take Terri into protective custody.


92 posted on 03/24/2005 8:51:07 PM PST by TBP
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To: TBP

bump to the top!!


93 posted on 03/24/2005 9:16:37 PM PST by timestax
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To: pulaskibush

If Janet Reno could send her people to Waco and to kidnap Elian, if the government could send its agents to Ruby Ridge (two of the three, at least, in violation of court orders, I believe), then there is no reason why Gonzales can't arrest Greer. There is no reason why Dubya can't send the Federal marshals to protect Terri. There is no reason why Jeb Bush can't send his people to take Terriinot protective custody. There is no reason why Davis's and Enzi's committees can't show up and serve their subpoenas. They have the authority. Do they have the guts to use it?

Probably not. People might criticize them. They really should change the symbol from an elephant to a jellyfish.


94 posted on 03/24/2005 9:24:06 PM PST by TBP
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To: pulaskibush

bttt


95 posted on 03/24/2005 9:50:37 PM PST by timestax
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To: MHGinTN

But Greer exceeds his authority. Let's haul him in for contempt of Congress and let's get the DCF and the marshals in there to protect Terri and feed her.

We don't hvae much time.


96 posted on 03/24/2005 10:01:37 PM PST by TBP
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To: TBP

I'm afraid it's too late ... Terri's survival is now problematic for too many factions wishing to avoid being embarrassed or having their full agenda exposed to the world.


97 posted on 03/24/2005 10:05:42 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
even specifying that No One be allowed to give Terri Schiavo water or food.

That is an illegal order. Taking out the tube may be a legal order, but denying even the touch of a drop of water on her lips is patently judicial homicide.

98 posted on 03/24/2005 10:07:02 PM PST by TBP
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To: GloriaJane

And the U.S. Attorney for that part of Florida.


99 posted on 03/24/2005 10:08:08 PM PST by TBP
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To: CyberAnt
Well .. it's now back in Whittemore's court - so I'm wondering if he is having second thoughts.

He's a Klintoon appointee. It's doubtful he had a first thought.

100 posted on 03/24/2005 10:09:10 PM PST by TBP
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