Posted on 04/23/2005 8:28:27 PM PDT by Coleus
Sad ping.
Why didn't she fish him out of the commode? Was she tied down?
You really believe this? IT WAS AN E-MAIL!
And why didn't the mom take the baby from the icy toilet?
How horrid. What is wrong with Florida?
I hope these people are prosecuted for murder if this is true. 23 weeks is viable. These women are not given INFORMED consent.
It is about filled up with Yankees!
Most certainly the mother picked her child up rather than simply poking at him? I doubt he could have/would have died in the toilet no matter how shocked the mother was.
I know in Texas, we've had as a matter of law that babies born alive must be treated as alive - since an attorney general ruling of 1978. In practice, there is a certain amount of discretion between 350 grams and 1000 grams, as there should be in all medical decisions. But there's a huge difference between discretion -meaning you don't cause more pain and suffering when you can't really make a difference or when there can never be any understanding of the suffering - and disdain or intending the death of another.
It is not only a law in Texas. It is a Federal law. Even Chalres Rangel voted for it. It's called the Born Alive bill or some such.
I find it hard to believe this story. I am against abortion, but we have enough real stories and don't need made up ones to give the validity of our position a black eye.
A very hokey story. She didn't know her baby was alive until she saw him in the toilet? A 23 week baby would have been moving and kicking inside of her.
She couldn't lift him out of the water and wrap him in her blouse until help could be summoned? She couldn't run out of the clinic with the babe in her arms and flag down a passing motorist?
Doesn't sound like she really wanted this baby to live.
Yes. Something's not quite right about this story!
Conservatives might be setting themselves up for a fall if they stand behind the wrong story.
I don't hardly believe this. Nobody leaves their baby floating in a toilet for 11 minutes while arguing with people who tried to kill him (her included). She already admitted she touch him and he clutched her hand. Any cave man would have pulled the child out of danger at that point. Not trying to be condescending to any cave men out there. This story isn't believable or the female who delivered is a moron of the third kind.
If true, it's horrific
Free Martha from what....her cajillion dollar ranch?
What moron at 23 weeks gestation needs informed consent? By that time the baby moves, and moves a lot. There is a life inside her that she cannot ignore by this point. Either you are male, never had a baby, or been in the desert way too long. 23 weeks gestation is way past the informed consent stage, unless she is numb from the neck down.
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