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Doctors' kitchen knives ban call
BBC news ^ | May 26, 2005

Posted on 07/23/2005 4:16:17 PM PDT by kerryusama04

A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing. A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

The research is published in the British Medical Journal.

The researchers said there was no reason for long pointed knives to be publicly available at all.

They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen.

None of the chefs felt such knives were essential, since the point of a short blade was just as useful when a sharp end was needed.

The researchers said a short pointed knife may cause a substantial superficial wound if used in an assault - but is unlikely to penetrate to inner organs.

Kitchen knives can inflict appalling wounds

In contrast, a pointed long blade pierces the body like "cutting into a ripe melon".

The use of knives is particularly worrying amongst adolescents, say the researchers, reporting that 24% of 16-year-olds have been shown to carry weapons, primarily knives.

The study found links between easy access to domestic knives and violent assault are long established.

French laws in the 17th century decreed that the tips of table and street knives be ground smooth.

A century later, forks and blunt-ended table knives were introduced in the UK in an effort to reduce injuries during arguments in public eating houses.

The researchers say legislation to ban the sale of long pointed knives would be a key step in the fight against violent crime.

"The Home Office is looking for ways to reduce knife crime.

"We suggest that banning the sale of long pointed knives is a sensible and practical measure that would have this effect."

Government response

Home Office spokesperson said there were already extensive restrictions in place to control the sale and possession of knives.

"The law already prohibits the possession of offensive weapons in a public place, and the possession of knives in public without good reason or lawful authority, with the exception of a folding pocket knife with a blade not exceeding three inches.

"Offensive weapons are defined as any weapon designed or adapted to cause injury, or intended by the person possessing them to do so.

"An individual has to demonstrate that he had good reason to possess a knife, for example for fishing, other sporting purposes or as part of his profession (e.g. a chef) in a public place.

"The manufacture, sale and importation of 17 bladed, pointed and other offensive weapons have been banned, in addition to flick knives and gravity knives."

A spokesperson for the Association of Chief Police Officers said: "ACPO supports any move to reduce the number of knife related incidents, however, it is important to consider the practicalities of enforcing such changes."


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To: kerryusama04
I guess I should have searched, but this is wacky enough for a third go-round, eh?

Your ok, just thought you would like to see more. It is a pretty lame idea to ban knives, soon we will all be in straight jackets in rubber rooms where we will be safe.

41 posted on 07/23/2005 4:49:15 PM PDT by Mark was here (My tag line was about to be censored.)
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To: NickAtNite

Oh and just as a point of reference...during
all those wars in humanitys past, fought with
swords...like the Crusades, and the scaracins,
the Mongols and such...the fighters that were
actually taught how to fight...were taught to
'Hack & Slash' rather than stab...Stabbing was
harder to accomplish, and your blade could get
stuck in the enemies body as his muscles tense
up around the blade in his body...Besides, a
'hacked up' opponant, was just as likely to bleed
to death in short order, or pass out from loss of
blood, if you didn't kill them outright. Fools
wasted their time and energy parrying and parrying
until they could stab.


42 posted on 07/23/2005 4:51:31 PM PDT by NickatNite2003
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To: All

Anohther bit of weapon history: A blade does
not have to be a large pointy tip knife to be
a dangerous weapon and be able to do massive
internal injuries.

Take for instance: Have you ever watched old
movies, where women would wear large weird
hats? They would keep those hats in place, with
'hat pins*.

What these hat pins were, as well as a way to keep
a womans hat in place, was as a defensive weapon.

They were like huge needles, somewhere in the area
of 5 or 6 inches long, and if a woman were attacked,
she could stab her attacker, and if the pin punctured
a lung or an organ, even if the person didn't die
right away, there was a good chance they would die
in a few days time from internal bleeding, or
some other reason brought about by being stabbed
with the little 5" long needle. If they didn't
go to a hospital, if the doctor of the time knew
how to do surgery...knowing fll well, what caused
the wound...a womans hat pin....


43 posted on 07/23/2005 5:16:20 PM PDT by NickatNite2003
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To: oceanperch
Cojones.
44 posted on 07/23/2005 5:59:11 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Lokibob

How does one chip the flint to make the sharpest edge?


45 posted on 07/23/2005 6:00:40 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: kerryusama04

A new and improved Clockwork Orange.


46 posted on 07/23/2005 6:03:18 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: kerryusama04
Geez, that was a close call. I was worried that Britain might outlaw box-cutters. Whew! Praise Allah!


47 posted on 07/23/2005 8:34:06 PM PDT by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: kerryusama04
They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

So the real cause isn't the availability of sharp edges within reach. It's substance abuse. Maybe the good doctors are nipping a few drops, too?

48 posted on 07/26/2005 1:23:10 AM PDT by John Filson
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