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| 1/19/06
| SAM WOSTEAR
Posted on 01/19/2006 7:34:58 AM PST by Millee
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To: najida
The first time I recall hearing anything about eating disorders was when Karen Carpenter died.
Remember last year all the fuss that was made when Haynes Her Way(?) did that ad that had normal sized women? I was hoping we'd see more ads like that, but I haven't.
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posted on
01/19/2006 8:17:50 AM PST
by
Millee
(Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.)
To: Millee
I'm seeing a bit more of actual normal body types in some fitness mags, and I'm encouraging the hell out of it....
When I see a 'real' woman portrayed on TV, not as a 'fat' chick but as just a person, I'll know the tide has turned.
Until then, I'm going to be a broomstick rider about it.
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posted on
01/19/2006 8:20:05 AM PST
by
najida
(OK, so we have this problem with the paint cans sticking to the floor.....)
To: Millee
I guess this is the only part of her life that she feels she has any control over. How sad that there are so many POS out there that abuse children like this. Two of the worst cases of eating disorders I've had to deal with were the result of long term sexual abuse. Oh yeah, one of them is now in her mid to late 50's. She has a disorder, but she's managed to survive thus far....just totally mad.
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posted on
01/19/2006 8:21:44 AM PST
by
najida
(OK, so we have this problem with the paint cans sticking to the floor.....)
To: martin_fierro
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posted on
01/19/2006 8:49:13 AM PST
by
teenyelliott
(Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
To: najida
Just curious...are you talking the Kate Winslet type? Or heavier? I have nothing against either, just trying to paint a picture.
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posted on
01/19/2006 8:50:52 AM PST
by
RockinRight
("It's as if all the brain-damaged people in America got together and formed a voting bloc" - Coulter)
To: najida; HOTTIEBOY
All right, najida, no fair. I'm a woman, and I am thin. It is just the way I am built. I would rather have Andie McDowell's body, but you get what you get.
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posted on
01/19/2006 8:52:21 AM PST
by
teenyelliott
(Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
To: teenyelliott
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posted on
01/19/2006 8:55:52 AM PST
by
martin_fierro
(Internationally-recognized insomniac)
To: martin_fierro
Here you go, daddy.
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posted on
01/19/2006 9:01:08 AM PST
by
teenyelliott
(Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
To: martin_fierro
Don't cuss. Call Gus. Let him cuss, in front of us, on the bus.
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posted on
01/19/2006 9:42:15 AM PST
by
NCC-1701
(RADICAL ISLAM IS A CULT. IT MUST BE ELIMINATED.)
To: teenyelliott
And you're lucky! You're part of the 8% that doesn't have to do anything to be the 'ideal'.
Someone got grumpy when I compared it to foot binding, but when a wide range of acceptability (like pretty feet can be size 4 to size 12) narrows to a very narrow range (now only size 4 feet are beautiful, all others are ugly)....
Something like eating disorders blooms. The fact that both small bodies and small feet are part of being 'childlike' isn't totally lost either.
But in the mean time, be happy. I was born with birthin' hips....I can weigh 99 pounds and still be able to deliver a baby rhino. :)
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posted on
01/19/2006 9:54:24 AM PST
by
najida
(OK, so we have this problem with the paint cans sticking to the floor.....)
To: RockinRight
Kate Winslet, or even a slight bit larger...
Marilyn Monroe, Rita Heyworth, Mae West etc were not dainty females, but gorgeous women.
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posted on
01/19/2006 9:55:28 AM PST
by
najida
(OK, so we have this problem with the paint cans sticking to the floor.....)
To: najida
Ah yes...all quite acceptable to me. Although Mae West was a bit too brazen for me, if that's the right word.
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posted on
01/19/2006 9:56:52 AM PST
by
RockinRight
("It's as if all the brain-damaged people in America got together and formed a voting bloc" - Coulter)
To: Millee
Are you thinking of Dove's Campaign for Real Beauty...It's still going, I think. www.campaignforrealbeauty.com
To: najida
What do they do for these women? Is it counseling, is there some kind of anti-depressant that helps, or do they just have to hit rock-bottom and fix themselves?
To: LongElegantLegs
That's it!
Millee reserves the right to make up stuff on any news related item that is over 1 week old. ;o)
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posted on
01/19/2006 10:40:11 AM PST
by
Millee
(Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.)
To: najida
I'm a size four and I know what you mean. Of course, I'm short which is not helpful, it means if I gain weight its immediately obvious.
I have real curves, real hips, etc. My waist is 14" smaller than my hips, 13" than my bust. Clothing selection is always difficult - I learned to sew.
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posted on
01/19/2006 10:47:55 AM PST
by
Roses0508
(Democracy does not guarantee equality of conditions - it only guarantees equality of opportunity.)
To: Millee
The first time I saw their ads in the store, I started buying Dove... Very encouraging.
To: najida
I agree..I've had it with the current group of anorexic actresses
To: LongElegantLegs
First of, this isn't my area of specialty...there are some great RD's out there who do this for a full time living and I admire them. I've dealt with it over the years, and even now, a few pass through my life, but these have some type of psychosis--- so it gets strange.
I've been quoted mortality rates as high as 20%....but because there are so many different degrees and a few types, it's hard to tell. Like I said, I know some that are over 50. I had one that was in her late 70's when she developed it, and that the more weight she lost, the happier she got. So we quit telling her what she weighed. She died weighing 67 pounds.
There are meds given, sometimes appetite stimulants along with antidepressant that have hx of causing weight gain.
Like all things, they have to want to get better. A lot of it has to do with a distortion in body image. Seeing themselves as fat when they aren't etc. Finding the roots of the whole disorder is the beginning.
And personally, making rounder female bodies in the real world less an object of contempt. But it's a bugger to try to get a girl to gain weight when some guy is ragging on a normal size girl on TV and calling her a cow. The message is clear....the smaller the better and body fat is an unforgivable sin.
Secondly, they all have foods or groups (fats, meats, stuff with any starch etc) they are terrified of, so helping them overcome the fear and incorporate them into their lives is another behavior change. One facility has them sit down with a calendar and actually plan that on "Tuesday, I will eat ice cream" etc. They're encouraged to actually enjoy the food, right down to the texture, temperature etc.
The downside is in treatment, they can be the most self-absorbed, manipulative patient you will ever deal with. You have to be an Army Drill Sargent in nature to work with them (and that ain't me fer sure). Which makes empathy sometimes hard to come by.
Especially if they are in treatment against their will. You have to weigh them turned around where they can't see the scales. Not let them have access to water prior to weighing (they'll gorge on it so they'll weigh more). Weigh them in their underwear (they've been known to put weights in their clothes).
Eating....well, the rules are you eat your meal OR drink a can of supplement-- period. And then you can't go to the bathroom for a period of time after-wards. Some girls have been vomiting for so long that helping them keep down food is the first step. Like I said, I admire anyone who can help these girls overcome it...on my end, I'm just ragging on the cow-callers ;)
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posted on
01/19/2006 11:25:21 AM PST
by
najida
(OK, so we have this problem with the paint cans sticking to the floor.....)
To: najida; LongElegantLegs
And now there are these types of websites that glamorize it. Sigh..
My hat's off to you najida. Keep fighting the good fight!
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posted on
01/19/2006 11:31:59 AM PST
by
Millee
(Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.)
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