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Refs were far from Super in this one
msn sports ^ | 2.06.2006 | Kevin Hench / FOXSports.com

Posted on 02/06/2006 6:50:28 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican

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To: RedBloodedAmerican

Not true. Even if that 1 single call for a touchdown were allowed and all else was the same, Steelers still would have won by 4.

I think it was a pretty good call in the end zone, though tight. The receiver looked like he was deliberately pushing back/off of the defender.

And as far as better team? Neither played that greatly last nite, and maybe Seattle did play better, strictly speaking. But overall thru the season I wouldn't say so - not w/the same line-up of players. So I have no problem w/Steelers winning. (Call me biased - my husband's a rabid fan; but then, I'm only new to this whole wife thing. ;-D)

But the Seahawks did well and should be proud they've made it this far, finally.


61 posted on 02/06/2006 7:11:32 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

While the refs left something to be desired, the only truly bad call I saw was the holding one. The offensive pass interference in the end zone was questionable, but I couldn't tell if the receiver would have managed to get back to the ball without the slight push off. Seattle also benefitted (possibly) by an incomplete call when replays showed the receiver catch the bal, put both feet down and turn upfield before getting hit and coughing it up. A Steeler was pursuing the ball towards the sideline when the ref blew it dead as incomplete. Not the neatest game, and the Steelers certainly didn't look superior, but I couldn't see where the refs changed the outcome.


62 posted on 02/06/2006 7:12:41 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: trubluolyguy
Flagging Hasslebeck for "blocking below the waist?

Now that was ridiculous. Didn't really figure in the outcome, but geez, how do they mess that one up?

63 posted on 02/06/2006 7:12:42 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Rudder
I still don't get the "Offensive Pass Interference" call against the Seahawks

Simple -- the receiver pushed off the defender (hand in the chest) to make space to catch the ball. That's cheating, and was rightfully flagged. It should be called more often in the NFL, but this was 1) blatant and 2) right in front of the ref.

64 posted on 02/06/2006 7:13:02 AM PST by kevkrom ("...no one has ever successfully waged a war against stupidity" - Orson Scott Card)
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To: mbynack
You don't get points for outgaining your opponent, time of possession, and turnovers. Seattle couldn't put the ball in the endzone or kick a long field goal or move the ball in the red zone. That's how you win the statistics and lose the game.

The Steelers made three scores as a the result of a great pass play, a great running play, and a great gadget play. They deserved to win.

65 posted on 02/06/2006 7:13:50 AM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: dfwgator

Yeah, interpretation, interpretation, interpretation. Entire ball. It's definitive. If it's good enough for the NHL (entire puck has to cross the red line for a goal), it should be good enough for the NFL.

What is the origin of this plane rule? Pile-up on the goal-line with a QB/RB/FB extending the ball (i.e., no one touching the ground)? Minimizing injuries (e.g., Marcus Allen flying over a pile into the endzone)?


66 posted on 02/06/2006 7:14:08 AM PST by goarmy (WARNING: The consumption of alcohol is a major factor in dancing like a retard.)
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To: trubluolyguy
No way was the Steelers QB TD a TD.

Nose of the ball got to the goal line. The call was correct, and the reply wasn't conclusive enough to show that it wasn't.

Flagging Hasslebeck for "blocking below the waist?"

This, I will agree was a bad call. How about the non-fumble on the so-called "incomplete pass". How about Hasslebeck getting grazed by a finger when he was aldready going down on his own negating a fumble?

The only calls you want to rememebr are the ones that went against your own team.

67 posted on 02/06/2006 7:15:45 AM PST by kevkrom ("...no one has ever successfully waged a war against stupidity" - Orson Scott Card)
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To: kevkrom

All I saw was Jackson's (I've got to defend my fellow Gator, after all :)) arms go under the Steeler defender, I never saw the hands touch the defender's chest in a way that allowed Jackson to push off, or stopped the momemtum of the defender. And the defender doing the exact same thing to Jackson, in fact, you could have made a case for defensive pass interference on that play.


68 posted on 02/06/2006 7:15:55 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

Oh BOO HOO HOO,

the crowd was too loud
the lights was in my eyes
the ground was too HARD
the ground was too soft and mushy
the temp was too cold
the temp was too hot
the altitude was too high
the altitude was too low
THE REFS STANK,
etc,etc,etc

OH BOO HOO HOO!

Seatle couln't score points. That's why they lost.


69 posted on 02/06/2006 7:16:35 AM PST by Al Gator (Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

Well the game was in Detroit.

Personally, neither team deserved to win. This game ranks at the bottom.


70 posted on 02/06/2006 7:16:35 AM PST by mpreston
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To: goarmy
What is the origin of this plane rule?

It has to do with how they spot the ball for the next play. If any part of the ball is in the end zone (and the lines are part of the end zone), then they would be spotting the ball in the end zone for the next play. Ridiculous, no? Ditto for safeties -- if any part of the ball remains in the end zone, it's a safety.

71 posted on 02/06/2006 7:17:45 AM PST by kevkrom ("...no one has ever successfully waged a war against stupidity" - Orson Scott Card)
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To: mpreston

A game as ugly as the city it was played in.


72 posted on 02/06/2006 7:17:50 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: kevkrom
The only calls you want to rememebr are the ones that went against your own team.

Exactly.

73 posted on 02/06/2006 7:18:17 AM PST by steelcurtain
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Refs were far from Super in this one

Doesn't matter. I won the parley! :o)

74 posted on 02/06/2006 7:18:57 AM PST by Lazamataz (Islam is a fatal disease that must be eradicated from the body Earth.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

It felt like the refs were shafting the Seahawks, but really the Seahawks made alot more mistakes than the refs.

I also felt like Cowher outcoached Holmgren.


75 posted on 02/06/2006 7:19:18 AM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
I didn't see the game, so I can't really comment about the officiating. But in addition to all the statistical comparisons that went in Seattle's favor, I found it interesting that the Steelers won the game despite what was probably the absolute worst performance ever by a quarterback (on a winning or losing team) in Super Bowl history.
76 posted on 02/06/2006 7:19:19 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
the "soft" label he hung on Stevens sure seemed to fit as the 6-foot-7 tight end short-armed several passes and seemed to be hearing footsteps all night

Alligator arms ........

77 posted on 02/06/2006 7:19:38 AM PST by beyond the sea (Cal Thomas: If only Robert Bork had cried ...................)
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To: dfwgator
I never saw the hands touch the defender's chest in a way that allowed Jackson to push off, or stopped the momemtum of the defender.

Jackson pushed the defender in the chest with his hand, and used that momentum to create separation. Other than a pick or blocking downfield before a catch, it's about as blatant as offensice pass interference gets. I don't see why people are complaining about the call (other than die-hard Seahawks fans, who need to comfort themselves by blaming anyone but their own team).

78 posted on 02/06/2006 7:19:38 AM PST by kevkrom ("...no one has ever successfully waged a war against stupidity" - Orson Scott Card)
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To: SengirV
Just because Michael "cokehead" Irvin did it way back when, doesn't mean it's legal in the present form of the NFL.

Ugh! (I hate defending Irvin, but...) All your elite WR's are adept at pushing off.

79 posted on 02/06/2006 7:20:01 AM PST by Tallguy (When it's a bet between reality and delusion, bet on reality -- Mark Steyn)
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To: Al Gator


Hard to score points when the refs take'm away chief.

It all sounds like sour grapes, I am sure...but...the Steelers shouldnt feel so proud winning this Turkey.


80 posted on 02/06/2006 7:20:22 AM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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