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The End of the American Way
various | by Huxwell

Posted on 02/12/2006 3:54:56 PM PST by Calpernia

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To: Calpernia
"How could they keep their manipulations hidden from the public?"

They don't. It's right out in the open. Of course I haven't been invited to Davos, Aspen Institute, CFR or Trilateral Commission policy meetings, but they do exist are on record. Just 90% of Americans don't know or care.

61 posted on 02/12/2006 11:02:18 PM PST by endthematrix (None dare call it ISLAMOFACISM!)
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To: uglybiker
So ya....the CFR,
slots both Democrat and Republican admins,.....and is known to be a tool of the Vatican,...as much as Georgetown or U.S. State Dept.
4 members of the Supreme court are Opus Dei.
Scalia,Thomas,
last 2 additions,..... Alito and Roberts.
Google it...i'm not B.S.ing here.

ever wonder why it is that sooo many Illegals get to pour into America from Mexico....Catholic...hint hint.

Micheal Carmicheal

During his papal audience with the late Pope John Paul II, Bush is reported to have complained to the pontiff and other members of the curia, including Former Cardinal Ratzinger, that he did not have the total support of all of the US Bishops. Ratzinger's letter swiftly resolved that dilemma for the politically beleaguered president.

In a perceptive article titled "Holy Warriors," Sidney Blumenthal, a former advisor to President Clinton, ascribed Bush's narrow victory over Kerry directly to the political impact of the Ratzinger letter.

anyhoo.....whoever the Vatican decides to back in 2008 will be President : )

ya I know....."Lets get ready to Rrruuuummbllle" : )

62 posted on 02/12/2006 11:19:19 PM PST by Light Speed
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To: Calpernia

Calpernia: This is an interesting fairy tale for those who
have not learned that the world is totally out of control and they need to think there is order some where. The bottom line is that it is "everyone for himself" and getting more so as time passes by. The only time we follow
the rules is when we believe we are in danger.


63 posted on 02/13/2006 12:45:32 AM PST by twidle
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To: PresbyRev; uglybiker
Looks to be the tired old conspiracy bromide.

Well said!

64 posted on 02/13/2006 4:23:28 AM PST by pt17
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To: Eastbound

You misunderstood my post too. I wasn't pointing fingers at the Masons. I used them as an example because they have been mentioned in propaganda.


65 posted on 02/13/2006 4:50:26 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: nopardons

You already said in freep mail we are done. I'm not going in circles again. You can't read or understand my thread or what I explained to you already, then yes, we are done.


66 posted on 02/13/2006 4:52:02 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Light Speed

>>>> ever wonder why it is that sooo many Illegals get to pour into America from Mexico....

There are even nonprofit organizations funded by the NGOs that enable this immigration. I can't even point this out because no one can get past my mentioning the word Mason.


67 posted on 02/13/2006 4:56:12 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: twidle

If it is a fairy tale, where are the monies coming from for the NGO grants?


68 posted on 02/13/2006 4:56:58 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: endthematrix

I even added the earth charter to this thread. All the businesses I listed have foundations that fund the NGOs.


69 posted on 02/13/2006 5:14:35 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: uglybiker

I didn't call the Masons the Illuminati.


70 posted on 02/13/2006 5:16:38 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

IMHO, a set of worthwhile observations.

FWIW, I already have experience regarding Freemasonry directly, and in those experiences I can bear truthful witness that they are not dedicated to God through faith in Christ, but will promote anything antiChristian that fosters human good at their own manipulation.

Interestingly, Christ defeated the builders some 2000 years ago, but still condemned men are attracted to their self made works for temporal control rather than accepting heaven for nothing other than sacrificing the natural man.

Likewise, even though there do exist incredibly malevolent and antiChristian forces in the world, even in the most heinous of situations, there is nothing that can keep a believer from exercising a simple faith in God through Christ. Such a simple faith results in more power, riches, strength, wisdom, honor, praise and glory than ever dreamt by the unbeliever. Even the carnal believer who has backslidden, thinking human works are the means to a worthwhile end, fails to understand any work not performed by divine protocol through simple faith in Christ will ultimately be deemed good for nothingness.

This brings me to a simple point. Although conspiracies may, do and have existed, they are impotent compared to the simple faith a believer may exhibit in God through Christ.

The issue of verifiability isn't significant with such criminal behavior. More important is the veracity within the object whom we place our faith, ... in God through faith in Christ, in all things.

Your posting does report valid and many sound observations. Many of which are ignored by a public that has become either hardened towards loving their fellow man or by placing faith on the soulish aspects of the world instead of faith upon God.

There is a reason why freemasonry and other sundry groups refer to their practice and study as a craft. Frequently they get what they work towards achieving, namely a clandestine fabrication for their control hidden from public view and hidden in plain sight.

God provides a way through Christ for all men to have a sanctified body, soul, and spirit, and the spirit is a significant component of that creation. Likewise, man who is born with an old sin nature, already condemned and dead in the spirit to God, perceives by soulish methods. The spiritual domain exists even when man is dead to God spiritually. Frequently, we fail to consider the spiritual consequences of behavior manifest in the occultic, their magnitude, forces, authority, and mechanics that provide incentive for their thinking, decisions and behavior, precisely because we are scarred from soulish thinking. In part, this naivete relieves us from accountability, but doesn't relieve us from the consequences of such evil rebellion from God and His grace.

I suspect that perhaps as early as this summer, but likely within a decade, the US will suffer from divine discipline. Throughout the globe people have become accustomed to any and every rebellion in thinking, deciding and acting separate from God through His Son. Prophecy foretells an apocalyse. God, though his grace will probably warn the world again by his divine dicipline of this looming fate.

The United States isn't prominent in Scripture, other than perhaps references to a Roman Empire that has never been conquered. There isn't much on divine scales that keeps His hand from destroying the US outright, except where we might remain faithful to Him. Our war on terror isn't worth much righteousness where we condone Islam as an alternative religion to any Christian denomination. Condoning Islam simply tips our hand regarding our lack of faith in God through Christ. It isn't saavy, nor is it wise, although those who believe they can control the future through rebellion to God in even the least of things will remain blinded to His light, until they return to Him.

Nor do we as a nation have much righteousness when homosexuality is condoned, while marriage and family are redefined independant of Divine Establishment.

I see nothing preventing cataclysmic events from happening to the US, unseen throughout most of human history, such as perhaps earthquakes, tsunamis, meteor showers, volcanism, and invasion to the US west of the Rockies. I make this comment because those are the events which I have seen vividly in dreams over the past several years. I had been skeptical of their veracity, (not that they were indeed spiritually induced and actual, but as to their source, divine or deception), but they are beginning to form in detail in the physical world. I now tend to believe they are a form of testing and cursing or divine discipline, and the only way to properly respond is to remain faithful to Him in all things, by remaining faithful through Christ and keeping very short account of my failings.

Regarding the defensive nature some take in response or reaction to the article. I suspect there do exist such conspiracies, but many times not in the soulishly perceived fashion that those who react to them might consider. For example in freemasonry, I suspect there are many good men performing good works, perhaps even some that will be rewarded in heaven, but by no means does the group promote the mechanics my which any work will ever be deemed anything but good for nothing. There is also a very real school within that group that studies, decides and practices all things that are divinely rejected as righteous or strictly unholy, mired either as good or evil independent of God.

But it is impotent with respect to the personal relationship of the individual believer with respect to God through faith in Christ.

In summary, I encourage all to simply remain faithful to God through Christ.


71 posted on 02/13/2006 5:37:46 AM PST by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: Cvengr

First, I will disclaimer, I didn't finish reading your post before I commented.

Second, I was not saying the Masons were the elite I was referring to. I have added who I was referring to specifically in the posts that follow.

I referred to the Masons as a example of misunderstood propaganda.


72 posted on 02/13/2006 5:43:12 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Agreed, IMHO, FM is simply a good example of an occultic group that performs many human good works on a basis that will not be recognized as righteous in the final judgment. It also has some adherants that are dedicated to conspiring with fallen angels and exhibit the most evil of intentions with a studied deception.

There are similarities between that group and many other disparate groups in the world today. Many which have significant power and authority.

We are to obey the authorities per Scripture, yet at the sounding of the trumpets, the elders in heaven will proclaim all power, riches, wisdom, strngth, honor praise and glory to our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus.

I wonder how much of the elite behavior today is influenced by said authorities.


73 posted on 02/13/2006 5:56:59 AM PST by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: Cvengr

I agree with the spirituality references in your post. No one can ever force change in anyone's faith.

But we can change the financial influences on our federal and state offices if people will come to realize the mergers the NGOs have made with our political offices.


74 posted on 02/13/2006 5:57:04 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Cvengr

I now wish I used a reference to the Girl Scouts instead of the word Masons. I didn't even want to get into this topic as a debate on the Masons. I wanted to discuss the foundation monies from Ark of Hope.


75 posted on 02/13/2006 5:59:03 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Cvengr
"We are to obey the authorities per Scripture, yet at the sounding of the trumpets, the elders in heaven will proclaim all power, riches, wisdom, strngth, honor praise and glory to our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus."

Some folks would dare to say that they have already heard the trumpets and have been making those proclaimations for a long time. Aren't you, yourself making that proclaimation now?

Christ always "IS". There never was a time that He wasn't.

Greater is He that is within you this moment . . .

than that which will ever be in the world, for Christ is the presence of God in man, always sufficient for the tasks at hand.

Aren't we His temple? Well, we're supposed to be. That's what we are building. A dwelling place in our consciousness so we can be conscious of His presence and obedient to His will, being able to respond to the laws written on the 'fleshly tables.' It's a process. Slow but sure. From glory to glory we rise. (Levels of understanding.)

A message that somehow has gotten lost through the centuries.

76 posted on 02/13/2006 8:11:11 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: nopardons
"Though, truth be told, exceedingly few Shriners get to drive the teensy cars. :-)"

Yeah, I know. I thought the requirement was that you had to have a big enough butt for it to hang over the doors. That lets me out, I guess. I'm a skin and bones kind of a guy. :)

77 posted on 02/13/2006 8:28:20 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Calpernia
"You misunderstood my post too."

Okay, let it rest, Cal. Let's move on.

I like the Reagan quote on your page. It's the truth!

Best -- Dave

Hey, don't forget to check out the book I linked. You'll be glad you did.

78 posted on 02/13/2006 8:35:20 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound

I saw the book you linked Eastbound. I was a Rainbow Girl. My grandfather was a Mason.

I wasn't badmouthing the Masons.


79 posted on 02/13/2006 8:39:26 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: uglybiker
Roger that ~ the tin-foil hat crowd keeps forgetting that God is in control.

Be Ever Vigilant!


80 posted on 02/13/2006 8:50:57 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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