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Red rain in India may consist out of alien lifeforms?
The Observer ^ | Sunday March 5, 2006 | Amelia Gentleman and Robin McKie

Posted on 03/06/2006 6:59:40 AM PST by S0122017

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To: S0122017

Let's put all factoids in a row (for the ones not reading the science article. You know who you are!)

1) The things look like cells

2) The 'cells' seem to contain proteins

3) In medium the cells multiply, an optimum temperature has been found at 300 degree Celsius.

4) 300 degree Celsius is far higher than any lifeform has yet been found to grow at.

5) The estimated amount that supposedly dropped down is 5 ton

6) The cells don't seem to grow good in solutions of
kitchensalt (NaCl) so they can't come from our oceans

7) They can survive iodine without problem and even seem to use it as food. No known earth microorganism does that.

8) They even survived 380 degree Celsius. Water turns into supercritical vapor at that 250 degree Celsius which raises the pressure in the cooker to about 220 atmosphere.

9) Different cell-cycles where observed, none of them like earth microbes (that i know).

10) New cells are 'growing' inside 'mothercells'. Once reached a certain size they slip out through the membrane and grow further.

11) No DNA was found. Either our techniques fail due to this being such a strange life form, or it uses something other than DNA.

12) The 'cells' absorb UV extremely strong. This could give it a protection against UV since it could prevent the UV from passing the inside of the 'cell' when the outerlayer blocks it. Ofcourse space is loaded with UV.

13) The 'cells' can grow without ANY PHOSPHORUS PRESENT.
No life form on earth can survive without any phosporus.
It is, among else, necessary for instance in construction of new DNA.


61 posted on 03/06/2006 2:13:48 PM PST by S0122017
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To: S0122017

Great information! Thanks for the info.


62 posted on 03/06/2006 2:44:58 PM PST by Angelas
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To: S0122017

All comets are from this solar system, and none heve been found that are not orbitally coplanar with the earth and the sun. If you have studied Johannes Keppler's work, then you know that it is unlikely that their origin could have been any place other than earth.


63 posted on 03/06/2006 2:56:48 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: S0122017

Perhaps in time adequate acceptance by peer critics shall prove the worthyness of the study. But that still does not mean something is a fact. Many things are assumed to be factual then latter found not to be the case. But whatever the case, was an interesting article to read.


64 posted on 03/06/2006 3:53:34 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: SunkenCiv

You posted a few links a while ago about proof that a comet hit Egypt during the time of the exodus.

I was wondering.., if a comet struck egypt, you think it likely that red rain would explain why the rivers and waters where like blood?


65 posted on 03/07/2006 2:13:14 AM PST by S0122017
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To: editor-surveyor

So far most comets whose origin was fairly certain came from the Oort-cloud. This is the OUTER-edge of the solar-system, and is practically already outside.

So even if a comet appears to come from the Oort-cloud, it doesn't say anything about the original source for the comet. It would be easy enough for an extrasolar comet to strike the Oort-cloud and be captured.


66 posted on 03/07/2006 2:21:50 AM PST by S0122017
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To: S0122017
" It would be easy enough for an extrasolar comet to strike the Oort-cloud and be captured."

I'm sure that Buck Rogers believed that to be so ;o) Name one 'extra-solar' comet and win $100 and a ride in a '56 DeSoto.

67 posted on 03/07/2006 9:18:49 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: S0122017
You posted a few links a while ago about proof that a comet hit Egypt during the time of the exodus.
I didn't. There's an old topic (I think it was Blam's) from a few years back, "Moses' Comet", but that didn't pertain to a comet hitting the Earth, if memory serves. :')
68 posted on 03/07/2006 9:57:23 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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To: stuartcr
compare dust particles, to the stuff in the rain?

This has been done. A percentage of the material is biotic in origin, and some is apparently still living. Whether it is from anyplace other than earth is pure speculation, but it should be noted that even over the Sahara as much as 15% of the airborn material is biotic.

69 posted on 03/07/2006 10:01:29 AM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: RightWhale

Thanks


70 posted on 03/07/2006 10:48:17 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: S0122017
No DNA was found.

Red blood cells also lack DNA. They seem to get by without it for a couple of months.

71 posted on 03/07/2006 10:57:18 AM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: RightWhale

But not at 300 degree Celsius.


72 posted on 03/07/2006 12:25:44 PM PST by S0122017
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To: SunkenCiv

http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/11/04/wmet04.xml&sSheet=/news/2001/11/04/ixhomef.html

Meteor clue to end of Middle East civilisations
The catastrophic effect of these could explain the mystery of why so many early cultures went into sudden decline around 2300 BC.


73 posted on 03/08/2006 1:01:48 PM PST by S0122017
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To: S0122017

http://www.world-science.net/exclusives/060104_specksfrm1.htm

“It was reported from a few places that people on the streets found their cloths stained by red raindrops. In a few places the concentration of particles were so great that the rainwater appeared almost like blood.”


74 posted on 03/08/2006 1:36:41 PM PST by S0122017
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To: S0122017

:')

Meteor Clue To End Of Middle East Civilisations
The Telegraph (UK) | 11-04-2001 | Robert Matthews
Posted on 01/04/2002 1:50:09 AM EST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/601395/posts

Slam, bang, thanks Saddam: new meteor theory
The Sunday Telegraph via Sydney Morning Herald | 11/06/01 | Robert Matthews
Posted on 11/05/2001 10:38:35 AM EST by dead
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/564185/posts

Disaster That Struck The Ancients
BBC | 7-26-2001 | Fekri Hassan
Posted on 12/08/2001 5:51:43 PM EST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/586511/posts

Evidence for Major Impact Events in the late Third Millennium BC
Evidence of Astronomical Aspects of Mankind's Past and Recent Climate Homepage
FR Post 9-4-2 | Timo Niroma
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Going Into The Water: A Survey Of Impact Events And The Coastal Peoples Of South-East North America
Cambridge Conference Network | 1-09-2002
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75 posted on 03/08/2006 9:52:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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To: r9etb; Allegra
//a passing comet can put a dust cloud in geostationary orbit//

Well that would certainly be a good trick that only aliens could perform I would think.

But Why?? LOL! Is this some kind of alien parlor trick to humor the other aliens? These must be some really bored aliens, or maybe cosmic parlor tricks is all they are good for.., LOLOL

W.
76 posted on 03/09/2006 11:07:45 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: RightWhale
Red blood cells also lack DNA. They seem to get by without it for a couple of months.

Given the reporting of a loud noise like a sonic boom, any chance an airplane carrying red blood cells crashed or was blown up?

Full Disclosure: How do you find all the good threads so quick, Right?

Cheers!

77 posted on 03/10/2006 8:42:23 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
How do you find all the good threads

50% I am pinged by other FReepers who are so thoughtful as to note what interests others might have, and 50% scanning headlines for keywords with well-worn relations to the few topics I know anything about. If someone else sees them as good threads that probably shows a similar spectrum of interest. Right now I expect a Milosovich thread to scroll by; I have been expecting him to drop dead for the past decade--terminal fat obstruction of the arteries.

78 posted on 03/11/2006 10:07:30 AM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: grey_whiskers

Many people not the similarity to red blood cells.
Ofcourse, that is sort of ridiculous if there really fell 50.000 kilos down, and seeing as how several districts reported this rain it seems really seems to be inlikely to be from a single point source as a plane. Anyway, why no planeparts come raining down? I read an article in Newscientist in which someone suggesting a comet splashed a flock of bats to smithereens, mixing their blood with clouds and letting it rain down over a period of 2 months.
Still ridiculous, as bats dont disintegrate when they die but let wings and other parts fall down too. Also, bloodcells (of any mammal) fall apart in normal water after just minutes, and these bad boys survived years in bottles. That is just not normal. Also they survive temperatures of 300oC, which no earth lifeform has ever been found to survive, and multiply by that temperature.


79 posted on 03/14/2006 4:03:36 AM PST by S0122017
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To: S0122017; RightWhale
Anyway, why no planeparts come raining down? I read an article in Newscientist in which someone suggesting a comet splashed a flock of bats to smithereens, mixing their blood with clouds and letting it rain down over a period of 2 months.

Speaking of bats. If you can find the column from Dave Barry (perhaps in his book Dave Barry Talks Back it is hilarious.

Cheers!

80 posted on 03/14/2006 8:27:35 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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