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Red rain in India may consist out of alien lifeforms?
The Observer ^ | Sunday March 5, 2006 | Amelia Gentleman and Robin McKie

Posted on 03/06/2006 6:59:40 AM PST by S0122017

Red rain could prove that aliens have landed Amelia Gentleman and Robin McKie Sunday March 5, 2006 The Observer

There is a small bottle containing a red fluid on a shelf in Sheffield University's microbiology laboratory. The liquid looks cloudy and uninteresting. Yet, if one group of scientists is correct, the phial contains the first samples of extraterrestrial life isolated by researchers. Inside the bottle are samples left over from one of the strangest incidents in recent meteorological history. On 25 July, 2001, blood-red rain fell over the Kerala district of western India. And these rain bursts continued for the next two months. All along the coast it rained crimson, turning local people's clothes pink, burning leaves on trees and falling as scarlet sheets at some points.

Investigations suggested the rain was red because winds had swept up dust from Arabia and dumped it on Kerala. But Godfrey Louis, a physicist at Mahatma Gandhi University in Kottayam, after gathering samples left over from the rains, concluded this was nonsense. 'If you look at these particles under a microscope, you can see they are not dust, they have a clear biological appearance.' Instead Louis decided that the rain was made up of bacteria-like material that had been swept to Earth from a passing comet. In short, it rained aliens over India during the summer of 2001.

Not everyone is convinced by the idea, of course. Indeed most researchers think it is highly dubious. One scientist who posted a message on Louis's website described it as 'bullshit'.

But a few researchers believe Louis may be on to something and are following up his work. Milton Wainwright, a microbiologist at Sheffield, is now testing samples of Kerala's red rain. 'It is too early to say what's in the phial,' he said. 'But it is certainly not dust. Nor is there any DNA there, but then alien bacteria would not necessarily contain DNA.'

Critical to Louis's theory is the length of time the red rain fell on Kerala. Two months is too long for it to have been wind-borne dust, he says. In addition, one analysis showed the particles were 50 per cent carbon, 45 per cent oxygen with traces of sodium and iron: consistent with biological material. Louis also discovered that, hours before the first red rain fell, there was a loud sonic boom that shook houses in Kerala. Only an incoming meteorite could have triggered such a blast, he claims. This had broken from a passing comet and shot towards the coast, shedding microbes as it travelled. These then mixed with clouds and fell with the rain. Many scientists accept that comets may be rich in organic chemicals and a few, such as the late Fred Hoyle, the UK theorist, argued that life on Earth evolved from microbes that had been brought here on comets. But most researchers say that Louis is making too great a leap in connecting his rain with microbes from a comet.

For his part, Louis is unrepentant. 'If anybody hears a theory like this, that it is from a comet, they dismiss it as an unbelievable kind of conclusion. Unless people understand our arguments - people will just rule it out as an impossible thing, that extra-terrestrial biology is responsible for this red rain.'


TOPICS: Astronomy; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous; Science; UFO's; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: alien; astrobiology; astronomy; biology; ecoping; extraterrestrial; india; panspermia; rain
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1 posted on 03/06/2006 6:59:42 AM PST by S0122017
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To: S0122017; AntiGuv; SunkenCiv; pcottraux

PING



http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1723913,00.html


2 posted on 03/06/2006 7:01:47 AM PST by S0122017
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To: S0122017

Strange how something that "came from space" over a period of months only fell in India. LOL


3 posted on 03/06/2006 7:04:17 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: voice of india

Remember this? Kannur, IIRC.


4 posted on 03/06/2006 7:05:47 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: S0122017

"...may consist out of alien life forms"


What?

I'm no english professor but come on, my 13 year old could have written a better headline.


5 posted on 03/06/2006 7:06:26 AM PST by trubluolyguy (Islam, Religion of Peace and they'll kill you to prove it.)
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To: S0122017

This is news? Peter Gabriel sang about Red Rain years ago.


6 posted on 03/06/2006 7:07:35 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: S0122017

How hard can it be to compare dust particles, to the stuff in the rain?


7 posted on 03/06/2006 7:07:37 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: S0122017
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1723913,00.html
8 posted on 03/06/2006 7:08:20 AM PST by S0122017
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To: S0122017
A comet? It must be the Mother Ship. Does everybody have their black Nikes on?


9 posted on 03/06/2006 7:09:26 AM PST by SIDENET (Likes small, shiny objects!)
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To: S0122017

Oh, brother!


10 posted on 03/06/2006 7:10:15 AM PST by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: cripplecreek
Strange how something that "came from space" over a period of months only fell in India. LOL

All the really neat stuff that happens in Weekly World News always seems to happen in remote parts of India or Bangladesh or deepest Africa as well.

I wonder why all of those really amazing things always happen in such obscure places? ;-)

11 posted on 03/06/2006 7:11:36 AM PST by Allegra (Please pray for peace in Iraq.)
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To: S0122017

--we had "red snow" in high-country Colorado on Valentine's Day , 1966--IIRC. It had a much more terrestrial origin--Utah--


12 posted on 03/06/2006 7:11:42 AM PST by rellimpank (Don't believe anything about firearms or explosives stated by the mass media---NRABenefactor)
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To: Allegra
The headlines were great this week. Aliens are stealing cows (for sinister purposes, no doubt), and Republicans have found a way to resurrect Ronald Reagan so that he can run in 2008.

Best investigative reporting on the planet.

13 posted on 03/06/2006 7:28:28 AM PST by Chanticleer (Let us speak courteously, deal fairly, and keep ourselves armed and ready. T. Roosevelt)
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
Oh, brother!

http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/mg18925411.100
Apparently New Scientist thinks it is possible. Do you think the entire universe is sterile but earth?

Oh, brother!
14 posted on 03/06/2006 7:28:43 AM PST by S0122017
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To: GreenFreeper

Don't know if this qualifies as environmental news, but it's pretty darn funny.


15 posted on 03/06/2006 7:29:04 AM PST by Chanticleer (Let us speak courteously, deal fairly, and keep ourselves armed and ready. T. Roosevelt)
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To: Allegra
Strange how something that "came from space" over a period of months only fell in India. LOL

Basic geostationary orbit. Look it up.
16 posted on 03/06/2006 7:29:53 AM PST by S0122017
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To: Chanticleer

Yes, it's hysterical. Maybe we can pass this one off as, God has a cut and is bleeding and India is seeing it all firsthand...


17 posted on 03/06/2006 7:32:17 AM PST by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: trubluolyguy
"...may consist out of alien life forms" What? I'm no english professor but come on, my 13 year old could have written a better headline.

What is wrong with it? It is accepted spelling. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=life%20form
18 posted on 03/06/2006 7:32:23 AM PST by S0122017
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To: S0122017

related topics:

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/808563/posts

Some Scientists Think SARS May Have Come from Outer Space
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Some Scientists Think SARS May Have Come from Outer Space
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Are There Aliens Already on Earth?
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Published: 17 oct 00 Author: STAFF
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Scientists report 'alien' life
Source: UPI
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Posted on 11/22/2000 08:08:05 PST by Free the USA
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http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3acfed532bff.htm

keyword:
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19 posted on 03/06/2006 7:32:47 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Fiction has to make sense, unless it's part of the Dhimmicrat agenda and its supporting myth.)
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To: S0122017
Basic geostationary orbit. Look it up.

You're responding to someone else's comment, just FYI.

20 posted on 03/06/2006 7:33:51 AM PST by Allegra (Please pray for peace in Iraq.)
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To: S0122017

"consist out of"

s/b

"consist of"

:')


21 posted on 03/06/2006 7:34:27 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Fiction has to make sense, unless it's part of the Dhimmicrat agenda and its supporting myth.)
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To: KevinDavis

Ping


22 posted on 03/06/2006 7:34:45 AM PST by S0122017
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To: Chanticleer

Dang, I miss WWN. I always make sure to read at least one issue when I'm home. Every page is a laugh riot.


23 posted on 03/06/2006 7:35:06 AM PST by Allegra (Please pray for peace in Iraq.)
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To: SunkenCiv

lol

ok

My english aint great. It aint my language.


24 posted on 03/06/2006 7:36:35 AM PST by S0122017
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To: S0122017; vannrox

S0122017, thanks for the ping. VR, a topic of interest?


25 posted on 03/06/2006 7:39:45 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Fiction has to make sense, unless it's part of the Dhimmicrat agenda and its supporting myth.)
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To: S0122017

I apologize, if my comment offends you. To my knowledge, God only created earth with inhabitants. All the rest, I consider, baloney...


26 posted on 03/06/2006 7:41:01 AM PST by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: Gengis Khan

Hey GK....check this out.


27 posted on 03/06/2006 7:43:40 AM PST by indcons (The MSM - Mainstream Slime Merchants)
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
I apologize, if my comment offends you. To my knowledge, God only created earth with inhabitants. All the rest, I consider, baloney...

No it didnt offended me, it just annoys me.
It reminds me of the inhabitants of easter island who thought that their island was the only land on the planet and they the only people.

They where wrong.
28 posted on 03/06/2006 7:43:49 AM PST by S0122017
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To: S0122017

Extraterrestrial oolites...


29 posted on 03/06/2006 7:44:11 AM PST by Axenolith (Got Au? Ag?)
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin

I agree with you. However, I think it's possible that earth bacteria has escaped by meteor impact 'backwash', then migrated to Mars through space, then possibly took root there on Mars, then re-migrated back here by meteor impact.


30 posted on 03/06/2006 7:45:37 AM PST by fishtank
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To: cripplecreek
Strange how something that "came from space" over a period of months only fell in India. LOL

Well, perhaps the fellow who called "bullshit" was righter than he knew ... if you were an alien lifeform, wouldn't you want to land where bullshit is sacred?

31 posted on 03/06/2006 7:48:22 AM PST by r9etb
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To: S0122017
Basic geostationary orbit. Look it up.

Be sure to let us know when you've figured out how a passing comet can put a dust cloud in geostationary orbit....

32 posted on 03/06/2006 7:50:10 AM PST by r9etb
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To: S0122017

TO ALL SCEPTICS: read the science article first.
Whatever they are: they are multiplying.


New biology of red rain extremophiles prove cometary panspermia

Authors: Godfrey Louis, A. Santhosh Kumar (Mahatma Gandhi University, Kottayam, India)
Comments: 17 pages, 6 figures, see related paper astro-ph/0310120

SUMMARY
This paper reports the extraordinary biology of the microorganisms from the mysterious red rain of Kerala, India. These chemosynthetic organisms grow optimally at an extreme high temperature of 300 degrees C in hydrothermal conditions and can metabolize inorganic and organic compounds including hydrocarbons. Stages found in their life cycle show reproduction by a special multiple fission process and the red cells found in the red rain are identified as the resting spores of these microbes. While these extreme hyperthermophiles contain proteins, our study shows the absence of DNA in these organisms, indicating a new primitive domain of life with alternate thermostable genetics. This new biology proves our earlier hypothesis that these microbes are of extraterrestrial origin and also supports our earlier argument that the mysterious red rain of Kerala is due to the cometary delivery of the red spores into the stratosphere above Kerala.

FULL TEXT PDF
http://www.citebase.org/cgi-bin/fulltext?format=application/pdf&identifier=oai:arXiv.org:astro-ph/0312639


33 posted on 03/06/2006 7:53:57 AM PST by S0122017
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To: fishtank

Well, of course it's possible. But there are far too many other important matters for people to concern themselves with. That's probably the problem with Washington. They think they've spotted extra terrestrials, so they spend most of their time on it, and do nothing about what REALLY matters...


34 posted on 03/06/2006 7:56:06 AM PST by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: S0122017
This new biology proves our earlier hypothesis that these microbes are of extraterrestrial origin and also supports our earlier argument that the mysterious red rain of Kerala is due to the cometary delivery of the red spores into the stratosphere above Kerala.
Actually, this is an overstatement by the researchers, because the only reported ET life was Gilbert Lewin's experiments conducted by the Viking landers on Mars back in the 1970s.
The Viking Labeled Release Experiment and Life on Mars
by Gilbert V. Levin
Thus, organic compounds surviving this rugged digestion were detected in the soil. They were attributed to kerogen and coal refractory to the GCMS pyrolysis. Biological possibilities were discounted although viable microorganisms have been reported (23) within anthracite coal taken from deep underground. The purpose of the intensive digestion of the Antarctic #726 was not stated. One must wonder what variety of labile organic compounds were present prior to the digestion.

35 posted on 03/06/2006 8:01:01 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Fiction has to make sense, unless it's part of the Dhimmicrat agenda and its supporting myth.)
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To: S0122017
Panspermia search. Note that there are some stories on unknown microbes found on the Columbia wreckage.
Google

36 posted on 03/06/2006 8:03:38 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Fiction has to make sense, unless it's part of the Dhimmicrat agenda and its supporting myth.)
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To: SunkenCiv

If i remember correctly they wheren't unknown but turned out to be soil bacteria that most likely (ccording to the researcher) contaminated the samples before flight. However, these contamination apparently survived 175 degrees Celsius reintake heat.

That is quite a lot, here at the university laboratory where i am currently in an internship we sterilise at 160.
According to most textbooks, that is sufficient to kill all bacteria. Guess not.


37 posted on 03/06/2006 8:15:08 AM PST by S0122017
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To: S0122017
One scientist who posted a message on Louis's website described it as 'bullsh*t'.

LOL!

38 posted on 03/06/2006 8:18:59 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: S0122017

Nope:

"A fresh examination of the Viking Pyrolytic Release Experiment (PR) data26 supplies direct support for the formation and persistence of organic matter on Mars."


39 posted on 03/06/2006 8:22:37 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Fiction has to make sense, unless it's part of the Dhimmicrat agenda and its supporting myth.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

yep like yesterday ,The maximum cases of red rain occured in my native district kottayam.I was around at the time but did not notice it.But i am pretty sure i didnt hear a 'sonic boom'. A friend claims he still has got nearly half a bottle of it but i have never got to see it ;)


40 posted on 03/06/2006 8:24:55 AM PST by voice of india (Lord is my light and my salvation whom shall i fear ?)
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http://mars.spherix.com/NewhouseNews.PDF


41 posted on 03/06/2006 8:26:48 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Fiction has to make sense, unless it's part of the Dhimmicrat agenda and its supporting myth.)
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To: voice of india
yep like yesterday ,The maximum cases of red rain occured in my native district kottayam.I was around at the time but did not notice it.But i am pretty sure i didnt hear a 'sonic boom'. A friend claims he still has got nearly half a bottle of it but i have never got to see it ;)

Someone from the district? Did you guys had red rain before?
42 posted on 03/06/2006 8:30:01 AM PST by S0122017
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To: voice of india

Bumping!


43 posted on 03/06/2006 8:38:21 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: r9etb
Be sure to let us know when you've figured out how a passing comet can put a dust cloud in geostationary orbit....

If some people reported hearing a 'boom' then the comet didn't pass by, it exploded in the atmosphere. Im not an astronomer, but perhaps the actual comet may have been in orbit for months, slowly disintegrating, till it fell down and exploded in the atmosphere.
44 posted on 03/06/2006 9:03:16 AM PST by S0122017
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To: S0122017

My problem still rests withe the fat that the stuff fell in one place over a period of months. The earth (and everything else) is moving through space and rotating. The stuff should be falling all across the globe.


45 posted on 03/06/2006 9:04:19 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: cripplecreek

If the comet was in a geostationary orbit it would have stayed above the exact same location of earth.
That's the principle satellites use.

Look i dont know whether this is alien or not, but the facts are: that about 5 ton of unknown cell-like substances fell down over a period of months and the cells seem to multiply with an optimum temperature of 300oC.
Best of all, no DNA has yet been found/extracted.

If this is some earth life form, then it is a new one.
But why would there be 5 tons falling down above the same location? Isn't that a bit weird? Some people said this may be a fungii. A new fungii then, cause 300oC should kill al fungii, but 5 ton? Where it come from? Does fungii grow in clouds nowadays? Im just saying that this is the most convincing account of a possible alien microorganism i ever heard.


46 posted on 03/06/2006 9:13:30 AM PST by S0122017
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To: voice of india

THE HINDU
THIRUVANANTHAPURAM, JULY 28 2001. After red, yellow and green rain, it is now black rain. It poured in black colour in Kottayam district on Saturday. Reports about coloured rain have come from Palakkad, Kottayam, Ernakulam and Pathanamthitta districts in the past two days.

While red rain was widely reported, yellow rain was reported from Chittar in Pathanamthitta district.

People have collected red rain water in vessels and samples have been brought to the Centre for Earth Sciences here from Changanassery in Kottayam district for analysis.

Though the rain is often referred to as red, the actual colour is close to that of diluted wine (brownish red).

It is found to have some particulate matter which settles down on standing for some time.

The Director of the Centre, Dr. M. Baba, said the chemical analysis would take a few days.

According to scientists, some reddish tinge remained even after the solid material settled down.

But it might take up to 21 days for suspended matter in water to settle down.

A search on the Internet for incidence of coloured rain shows that yellow, green, black and red rain are not very uncommon, though most of the citations are from 19th or the early years of 21st century. The reasons cited for the colour of the rain water vary. Various chemicals have been found in the rain water, some of which are thought to be of volcanic or meteoric origin.

Red rain from Europe has been largely explained away as the result of sand from the Sahara being blown into the air by whirlwinds and coming down in southern Europe mixed with rain and appearing red. But earthquakes have followed red rain in England in the past.

There were reports of peculiar substance in the rain consisting of red iron ocher, line carbonate and unspecified organic matter.

Swams of butterflies and fungi are also said to cause the colour. Sulphur, chloride of cobalt are other chemicals often associated with yellow and red rain.

Analysis of red rain has come even in reputed magazine such as Nature. But there had been no common explanation, though red rain and its variants have occurred in all continents.

For those who believe in prophesies, red and black rain are not good omens.

There is mention of them in the apocalypse and some other prophesies. For those who love comics, there is the Batman story titled Red Rain. Then there are several poems out there that sing about red rain.


47 posted on 03/06/2006 9:15:37 AM PST by voice of india (Lord is my light and my salvation whom shall i fear ?)
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To: blam; Carry_Okie; Chanticleer; ClearCase_guy; cogitator; CollegeRepublican; ...
ECO-PING

FReepmail me to be added or removed to the ECO-PING list!

A little off topic but worth the read!!

48 posted on 03/06/2006 9:34:15 AM PST by GreenFreeper (Not blind opposition to progress, but opposition to blind progress)
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To: Angelas; presidio9; Idisarthur; Hegemony Cricket; A knight without armor; new cruelty; SunkenCiv; ..
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49 posted on 03/06/2006 10:58:28 AM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: pcottraux

I have a dumb question.... How do you post pictures?!


50 posted on 03/06/2006 11:03:53 AM PST by Reaper FReeper (Sometimes I wonder what ADD is, but than I find myself chasing a butterfly.)
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