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Deal takes sheep off grazing allotment
Billings Gazette ^ | March 17, 2006 | MIKE STARK

Posted on 03/17/2006 8:22:02 PM PST by george76

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To: muawiyah

However, lamb is quite nice. Since I work with wool, I don't want to see the price rise. I get mine from an Amish mill located in Pennsylvania, and the cost is comparatively low. I doubt this will affect my supplier.

OTOH, meat and wool animals are often two different operations. Many meat sheep grow hair, not wool.

I object to this sort of thing because it is manipulative and aims to clear humans and human activity out of places the Greens have decreed must remain "pristine".


21 posted on 03/18/2006 7:10:35 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal
BTW, I love bears ~ but there's no sense beating up on them because they like to eat sheep.

Sheep eating animals are not, in my world, competitors.

I think part of the problem here is that when the various parts of that area of the world were carved up for different uses they simply didn't realize how big a range bears need.

Oh, yes, I stay AWAY from the bears. They really are dangerous.

22 posted on 03/18/2006 7:13:36 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: george76

Around here the enviros planted the Oplamato Falcon and then started telling the ranchers what they had to do. The stupid ranchers accomodated them and then they just became more shrill and demanding. They had to move their cattle off the range when the birds started mating. The funniest thing of all is when they moved the cattle the birds abandoned their nests and followed the cattle.


23 posted on 03/18/2006 7:19:38 AM PST by tiki
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To: muawiyah

Not sure where you got your information, but it is incorrect on all counts.


24 posted on 03/18/2006 9:04:54 AM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis
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To: tiki

But something had gotten there before him. Everywhere he looked, it seemed, there was a sheep that had been attacked and bloodied.

"It was terrible," he said. "Some of them just had a chunk of flesh tore out, in some cases clear to the bone, the size of an orange.

A few were bit in the neck."

A few of the sheep could be doctored, but many of them died... of the 60 that were attacked, 21 died and 39 were injured.

On top of that, the percentage of ewes with twins dropped from a typical 45 to 55 percent to around 20 percent, which will mean a serious blow to his business.

"I think that trauma had a lot to do with it,"

http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles/2006/03/17/news/state/20-sheep.txt


25 posted on 03/18/2006 9:32:46 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
http://ats.agr.gc.ca/seafood/farmed_salmon-e.htm says British Columbia (for example) raises Atlantic salmon.

The associations representing salmon farmers emphasize this sort of thing ~ so that "wild" salmon stocks are not allowed to breed with "farmed" salmon.

I presume that was the part where you had a problem ~ but, alas, I have that reference and a whole lot of others (358,000 of 'em) to look at.

26 posted on 03/18/2006 4:45:43 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
BTW, the "old timers" I refer to are people I've talked to about PAC NW salmon canneries, and the taste switch from white to pink to red salmon.

Little short guys, too, and they know fish ~ and they all have more than their fair share of scars from cutting up salmon.

27 posted on 03/18/2006 4:47:41 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah

Lived in Alaska for years, commercial fished a bit, (salmon troller and even longlined for halibut) been around canneries, flash freezing operations etc and know about iron *hinks replacing the Chinese and Filipinos. Never heard anyhing such as you state.


28 posted on 03/18/2006 8:54:17 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis
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To: muawiyah

Atlantic salmon farmed raised in the Atlantic or Pacific are still Atlantic salmon. (anymore, the shrimp one gets are often farm raised in fresh water hundreds of miles from the ocean)

Farm raising Pacific salmon for the reasons I stated, are not a viable commercial venture. They simply do not take to being caged up, fed an artificial diet and put on weight.


29 posted on 03/18/2006 9:03:20 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
You are simply not old enough to have been present when the public preference shifted from white to pink to red salmon meat.

If you were about 125 years of age you could possibly have been there (as were my informants).

30 posted on 03/19/2006 10:05:55 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

Atlantic farmed Salmon in BC are not going to breed with the Pacific salmon, now, are they?


31 posted on 03/19/2006 10:06:49 AM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah

Uh, farm raised, as in raised in captivity, if the salmon escaped, not much profit in that. Salmon return to the rivers and creeks where they were hatched at to spawn.


32 posted on 03/19/2006 7:49:45 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis
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To: muawiyah
You are correct, I not only was not there, I know nothing of that which you claim as factual.

I relinquish this field to you, Au revoir.
33 posted on 03/19/2006 8:03:07 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis
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