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Central American Songbird Provides Confirmation of Intelligent Design
AP | 3/31/2005 | AP

Posted on 04/01/2006 10:50:28 AM PST by Condorman

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To: Virginia-American
"Harl, Harl, it reminds me of someone else at Nebraska ... on the tip of my tongue..."

Not sure. Dr. Peter Harl is in his later 50's, hair kinda thin on the top. He speaks with a little stammer, but he's pretty captivating once he gets going with a topic. He came to a class I was taking as a guest speaker about 10 years ago.
41 posted on 04/01/2006 12:18:59 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Senator Bedfellow

Good idea. I had been counting on at least getting points for effort and intentions if the unexpected suddenly occurred, but this should work better.


42 posted on 04/01/2006 12:22:46 PM PST by ml1954 (NOT the disruptive troll seen frequently on CREVO threads.)
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To: Condorman
Good try, but too late. Darwin Central has already sprung into action. Dr. Peter Harl? WHAT "Dr. Peter Harl"? The entire "University of Nebraska" from the historical record too if need be. Bwahahahahahaha!
43 posted on 04/01/2006 12:23:40 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Condorman
There's no link to the source. What gives?
44 posted on 04/01/2006 12:25:11 PM PST by curiosity
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To: Condorman; PatrickHenry; RadioAstronomer
The researchers undoubtedly would have saved Federal grant money, time and trouble had they consulted a reputable ornithologist prior to trekking into the jungles of Central America in their Intelligent Design research.

It is without dispute among leading ornithologists that the British Bluetit preceded or, wrote the song, if you will, the creation or evolution of the Central American turquoise browed mot mot.

The British Bluetit has also been long revered for its rapturous song.


Listen to the bird sing.

45 posted on 04/01/2006 12:29:19 PM PST by bd476 (It is with great trepidation one wanders onto a Creation Evolution thread, please be gentle ;-))
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To: curiosity
The bird is real: Turquoise-browed Motmot.
46 posted on 04/01/2006 12:31:04 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
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To: Condorman
I did a little more research and found out that the gene that these researchers found, the BS 4u gene, may not be quite as new as this report makes it sound. It is polylitally zygometic with a gene, BS ru, found in a closely related species, Hylomanes momotula . We'll just have to see how this holds up.
47 posted on 04/01/2006 12:42:13 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: PatrickHenry
PatrickHenry wrote: "The bird is real: Turquoise-browed Motmot."

No doubt about it, especially when you hear its song:

From the link: "The call is nasal, croaking and far-carrying."

48 posted on 04/01/2006 12:46:03 PM PST by bd476 (It is with great trepidation one wanders onto a Creation Evolution thread, please be gentle ;-))
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To: bd476
It is without dispute among leading ornithologists that the British Bluetit preceded or, wrote the song, if you will, the creation or evolution of the Central American turquoise browed mot mot.

I think they got the title wrong, though. In the picture, the motmot looks more like a kingfisher.

49 posted on 04/01/2006 12:48:03 PM PST by Condorman (Prefer infinitely the company of those seeking the truth to those who believe they have found it.)
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To: Condorman

In the picture, the motmot looks more like a kingfisher.

With a tail like that?


50 posted on 04/01/2006 12:51:17 PM PST by Virginia-American
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To: Virginia-American

With a tail like that?

I was looking at the beak.

51 posted on 04/01/2006 12:52:58 PM PST by Condorman (Prefer infinitely the company of those seeking the truth to those who believe they have found it.)
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To: Condorman

Darwin fixated on finch beaks, so all his worshippers still do. Glad to see some real scientists taking off their blinders.


52 posted on 04/01/2006 12:55:52 PM PST by Virginia-American
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To: Condorman
I wonder what the Designer had in mind when this novel gene was slipped into this bird?
53 posted on 04/01/2006 12:56:59 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
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To: PatrickHenry
I wonder what the Designer had in mind when this novel gene was slipped into this bird?

I don't know but sooner or later he had to make a mistake ;)

54 posted on 04/01/2006 1:01:27 PM PST by BMCDA (If the human brain were so simple that we could understand it,we would be so simple that we couldn't)
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To: BMCDA

Yeah. "Oops! That was supposed to go in the tapir! Oh well, it'll do."


55 posted on 04/01/2006 1:09:48 PM PST by ahayes
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To: AndrewC

Condorman is posting a evo-skeptic story. What day can this be?


56 posted on 04/01/2006 1:10:31 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7

The day when we finally see the light!


57 posted on 04/01/2006 1:10:52 PM PST by ahayes
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To: All
Here's an article that tends to support this one, too.

elibrary.unm.edu/sora/Auk/v107n04/p0730-p0736.pdf
58 posted on 04/01/2006 1:40:03 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Oops, bad link. Here's the correct one:

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:LoBdXj48XfcJ:elibrary.unm.edu/sora/Auk/v107n04/p0730-p0736.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox-a


59 posted on 04/01/2006 1:41:02 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Yes! This is amazing!
60 posted on 04/01/2006 1:42:48 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
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