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Do you want LEGAL immigration stopped too?
My Own Head | 4/3/006 | Me

Posted on 04/03/2006 2:16:16 PM PDT by clawrence3

The question has come up on different threads here - we know everyone who wants all ILLEGAL immigration stopped, but who is for stopping all LEGAL immigration as well? Whether it is just for a "short" time or permanently, let me know.


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What say you?
1 posted on 04/03/2006 2:16:18 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3

Our legal immigration levels are just fine.


2 posted on 04/03/2006 2:17:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: clawrence3

I wouldn't stop it, but I would lower it. And, I would substantially revise it.


3 posted on 04/03/2006 2:17:53 PM PDT by MBB1984
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To: clawrence3

Legal immigration is fine


4 posted on 04/03/2006 2:17:59 PM PDT by DM1
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To: clawrence3

Nope. Not stopped, but perhaps, reformed.


5 posted on 04/03/2006 2:18:03 PM PDT by 4U2OUI (losing what I thought was sanity...and liking it.)
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To: cripplecreek

I may want to see them changed, but not stopped.


6 posted on 04/03/2006 2:18:07 PM PDT by gogeo (The /sarc tag is a form of training wheels for those unable to discern intellectual subtlety.)
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To: clawrence3

I say you're insane. America needs immigration, always has. It just doesn't need *illegal* immigration.


7 posted on 04/03/2006 2:18:09 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: clawrence3

I think all immigration should be stopped until officials can get control of who is in this country and deport the illegals.


8 posted on 04/03/2006 2:18:10 PM PDT by antiunion person (Maybe it is BUSH'S FAULT!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: clawrence3

Heck no.. at that, we need to get the legal immigration laws updated as they are still full of red tape going back to the LBJ administration. There would be less illegal immigration if legal immigration was easier (and safer)..


9 posted on 04/03/2006 2:18:22 PM PDT by mnehring (http://abaraxas.blogspot.com/.)
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To: antiunion person

So, basically, stopped forever then?


10 posted on 04/03/2006 2:18:59 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3

Controlled, legal immigration should be allowed only when it is in the best interest of the United States. The emphasis should be on the best interest of our country, not the best interest of the immigrants.


11 posted on 04/03/2006 2:19:03 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: clawrence3

Yes, shut down legal immigration as well.


12 posted on 04/03/2006 2:19:16 PM PDT by AuslanderRaus (RIP Chad Huber)
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To: clawrence3

HSW


13 posted on 04/03/2006 2:19:33 PM PDT by mnehring (http://abaraxas.blogspot.com/.)
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To: clawrence3
What say you?

I'd rather see legal immigration doubled or tripled from current levels. I'd like to see legal immigration being higher than the current legal and illegal immigration combined.

Immigrants made this country great. I'd like to see it spread around the world and biased toward educated people who want to become Americans.

14 posted on 04/03/2006 2:19:49 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: Spktyr

Do you think that "antiunion person" is insane?


15 posted on 04/03/2006 2:19:53 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: cripplecreek

Legal immigration should be stopped until all those here illegally are deported.


16 posted on 04/03/2006 2:20:08 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: clawrence3
I favor vigorous legal immigration. I just want to know who's coming in, and I want to control the flow according to our needs.

Welcome to our wonderful country. Now get a job and assimilate.

17 posted on 04/03/2006 2:20:40 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: clawrence3

legal immigration is fine.
I would prefer some enforcement of assimilation were actively pursued.


18 posted on 04/03/2006 2:20:47 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal. this would not be a problem if so many were not under-precise)
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To: Godebert

So, that's THREE votes so far - anyone else?


19 posted on 04/03/2006 2:20:55 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: mnehrling

"HSW"?


20 posted on 04/03/2006 2:21:25 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3

I'm not sure how you even compare the two.

One is a group of people who show open contempt for our laws, sovereignty, and our country.  Those who are here to grab as much as they can, through any means necessary, and send it back to their home country to which they maintain loyalty and citizenship.

The other is willing to respect our country and rules and wants to join the Greatest Nation on Earth, to share our freedoms, benefits, and responsibilities.

Your question is kind of like "You don't like being raped, but do you like making love to your spouse?"

 

Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,

 it was probably sarcasm)

21 posted on 04/03/2006 2:21:25 PM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: clawrence3

I think legal immigration needs to be increased, with the process much more streamlined and expedited.

This country was founded on "give us your tired, your poor," etc.


22 posted on 04/03/2006 2:21:25 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: King Prout

I think we should be a lot more carefull about who we let in. After all, do we really need the taliban at Yale?


23 posted on 04/03/2006 2:22:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: clawrence3
I have no problem with legal immigration. Our own Anna_Z became a U.S. citizen last year after spending many years in the red tape and paper maze.
24 posted on 04/03/2006 2:22:02 PM PDT by Bella_Bru
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To: antiunion person
I think all immigration should be stopped until officials can get control of who is in this country and deport the illegals

I agree on this, that makes our politicians responsible for seeing to it the border problem is resolved or admit they cannot protect us.

25 posted on 04/03/2006 2:23:11 PM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: clawrence3
No.

In fact, if we get illegal immigration stopped, or at least greatly curtailed, we may be able to increase the level of legal immigration. It also could then be more evenly distributed among various nations.

26 posted on 04/03/2006 2:23:20 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: clawrence3

Legal immigration should be streamlined so that those willing to work can be here legally, enrolled and engaged in the system, paying taxes and assimilating.


27 posted on 04/03/2006 2:23:31 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day ("Yo, Mike, you vant us to unpimp zis ting lemme hear you say 'vat.'")
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To: clawrence3
Legal immigration is part of what makes America great. The great thing about legal immigrants is that, for the most part, they want to be Americans, not just make money. Another great thing about legal immigration is that they are required to learn our history and culture, many knowing more about America, by the time they become citizens, than those born here. Legal immigrants should always be welcome in America and should receive their deserved place at the front of the line, taking the straight and narrow route, the most difficult route to become Americans. It shows that they want more than a paycheck because to become a citizen is a challenge and an undertaking that makes a person proud to be an American.
28 posted on 04/03/2006 2:24:58 PM PDT by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: clawrence3

Freepmailed you.


29 posted on 04/03/2006 2:25:25 PM PDT by mnehring (http://abaraxas.blogspot.com/.)
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To: Spktyr

Agree, but I would get rid of bogus programs like the "diversity immigration lottery" which does nothing to select the quality of immigrants we get. A point system like most other rational countries in the world use would be far better than drawing from a pool of favored countries. For example, from an Allied country +8 points; from a hostile country -8 points; math professor +9 points; political activist -20 points; service in the U.S. miltary +25 points, etc.


30 posted on 04/03/2006 2:25:42 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: clawrence3

I want to increase legal immigrant levels, AFTER we throw out the illegals. There should be room for doubling the legal immigrants with the illegals out of the way.

We should be able to handle a million new people a year, properly registered and tracked.


31 posted on 04/03/2006 2:26:07 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: clawrence3

I hope not. We are barely at the replacement rate right now. I suspect we do our best to birth control ourselves out of existance. Just looking at Russia and Europe shows that.


32 posted on 04/03/2006 2:26:07 PM PDT by catholicfreeper
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To: Yo-Yo
This country was founded on "give us your tired, your poor," etc.

That little socialist poem came over 100 years after the founding of this nation. Let's deal with the tired and poor already here before we let any more in.

33 posted on 04/03/2006 2:26:07 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: clawrence3

Depends on what kind of legal immigrants one is talking about. A foreign-born professor at, say, Princeton or an equally foreign-born organized crime figure? And if it is easy enough to choose between these two poles, then there are intermediate [as for an immigrant's desirability] situations.


34 posted on 04/03/2006 2:26:38 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Yo-Yo
"This country was founded on "give us your tired, your poor," etc."

This certainly is not what our country was founded on. This is what a foreign government wanted us to do and put it on a statue it gave to us. It has virtually nothing to do with the founding of our Country which was founded, by and large, by non-poor, non-tired, educated patriots.
35 posted on 04/03/2006 2:27:28 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: clawrence3

Beautiful women should be allowed entry at all times followed by instant citizenship. Also baseball players, NFL capable athletes etc.


36 posted on 04/03/2006 2:27:36 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: mnehrling

Thanks.


37 posted on 04/03/2006 2:28:36 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: cripplecreek

security profiling of all candidates for legal entry makes perfect sense. then... enforce assimilation.

1. no "dual language/polylingual" ATMs, no non-english ballots, no bilingual public education, no tax-funded translators, etc... full English immersion: swim, or sink.

2. break the law, be expelled. any law at all. expelled permanently. including zoning ordinances, housing regulations, noise odinances, LITTERING... full lawful requirement: behave, or go home.

etc...


38 posted on 04/03/2006 2:29:00 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal. this would not be a problem if so many were not under-precise)
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To: clawrence3

No.


39 posted on 04/03/2006 2:30:13 PM PDT by johnny7 (ďNah, I ainít Jewish, I just donít dig on swine, thatís all.Ē)
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To: Prokopton

actually, that isn't even on the statue - it is from an ode to that statue written by a soft-hearted fool.


40 posted on 04/03/2006 2:30:20 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal. this would not be a problem if so many were not under-precise)
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To: clawrence3
Have you stopped beating your wife?
41 posted on 04/03/2006 2:30:28 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO")
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To: clawrence3

I'm getting the impression that you were the guy who liked to stand up in the middle of the high school cafeteria, and shout "FOOD FIGHT!"


42 posted on 04/03/2006 2:31:06 PM PDT by 4U2OUI (losing what I thought was sanity...and liking it.)
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To: clawrence3

I say no. Legal immigration is just fine. Actually we probably need more legal immigrants. But first - very important to make it first - we need to expel every last damned illegal we can find. Immigration to the US ought to be capped at a million per year tops.


43 posted on 04/03/2006 2:34:06 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Since all politicians understand is money, I donate ONLY to those who oppose illegal immigration)
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To: 4U2OUI

Not at all - I was very respectful - senior class president, in fact.


44 posted on 04/03/2006 2:34:19 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
So, that's THREE votes so far - anyone else?

1)I want to see a complete halt to all immigration at least for the time being.

2)I want to see *all* illegals,of *Even* race and nationality,expelled from the country.

3)After #2 is complete,a small,*very* selective immigration plan *might* be in our best interest.Such a plan should *only* include people who have *already* demonstrated a skill of which we are in serious need.Nursing comes quickly to mind as a skill that might qualify.Also,anyone of good character who honorably serves in any branch of our Armed Forces for at least one *full* hitch should qualify for serious consideration.No guarantees.

45 posted on 04/03/2006 2:34:41 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

I never started beating her.


46 posted on 04/03/2006 2:34:43 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: thoughtomator

Should read "of *every* race..."


47 posted on 04/03/2006 2:35:52 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: Gay State Conservative; All

Four votes - do I hear FIVE?!


48 posted on 04/03/2006 2:36:14 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: GSlob

My question assumes stopping ALL legal immigrants, including the ones who would teach at Princeton, rich ones, or even the one who finds the cure to cancer.


49 posted on 04/03/2006 2:38:12 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: King Prout

"actually, that isn't even on the statue - it is from an ode to that statue written by a soft-hearted fool."

Nope. It is actually an inscription on the Statue of Liberty.

A giant statue on an island in the harbor of New York City; it depicts a woman representing liberty, raising a torch in her right hand and holding a tablet in her left. At its base is inscribed a poem by Emma Lazarus that contains the lines “Give me your tired, your poor, / Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.”


50 posted on 04/03/2006 2:39:59 PM PDT by Prokopton
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