Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

District Attorney: Duke lacrosse case 'not going away'
ESPN ^ | April 11, 2006 | Associated Press

Posted on 04/11/2006 8:47:19 AM PDT by Arec Barrwin

Updated: April 11, 2006, 11:32 AM ET

District Attorney: Duke lacrosse case 'not going away' Associated Press

DURHAM, N.C. -- The district attorney said Tuesday he will not abandon his investigation of allegations that an exotic dancer was sexually assaulted and beaten at a party thrown by members of Duke University's lacrosse team.

"A lot has been said in the press, particularly by some attorneys yesterday, that this case should go away," District Attorney Mike Nifong said at a community forum. "My presence here means that this case is not going away."

On Monday, attorneys representing members of the lacrosse team said DNA from 46 lacrosse players did not match evidence collected from the woman who says she was raped.

"No DNA from any young man tested was found anywhere on or about this woman," defense attorney Wade Smith said Monday.

He said he hoped Nifong would drop the investigation.

No charges have been filed in the case, but Nifong has said he believes a crime occurred at the March 13 party, which according to court records was attended only by lacrosse players.

Nifong, who has said he doesn't necessarily need DNA evidence to prosecute, was calmly defiant at Tuesday's forum, attended by about 700 people on the campus of North Carolina Central University, the historically black university a few miles from Duke where the alleged victim is a student.

"The fact is that this case is proceeding the way a case should proceed," Nifong said to applause.

The 27-year-old woman told police she and another woman were hired to dance at the party. The woman told police that three men at the party dragged her into a bathroom, choked her, raped her and sodomized her. The allegations led to days of protests on and off the Duke campus.


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; lacrosse; nifong
What a joke. The woman, according to the tests, DIDN'T EVEN HAVE SEX. Where's the crime?
1 posted on 04/11/2006 8:47:20 AM PDT by Arec Barrwin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Arec Barrwin

"this case is not going away..."



I'm guessing a jury will have the last say on that, not you.


2 posted on 04/11/2006 8:49:32 AM PDT by Brilliant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Arec Barrwin

Yep, let's just keep flogging that dead horse.


3 posted on 04/11/2006 8:50:08 AM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Arec Barrwin

"No charges have been filed in the case, but Nifong has said he believes a crime occurred at the March 13 party, which according to court records was attended only by lacrosse players."

Sounds like the crime that occurred may have been on HER part. If that's the case, I certainly hope they file charges.


4 posted on 04/11/2006 8:50:22 AM PDT by Jedidah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Arec Barrwin

"What a joke. The woman, according to the tests, DIDN'T EVEN HAVE SEX. Where's the crime?"

The crime is in the false allegations made by the complainant. She should be vigorously prosecuted.


5 posted on 04/11/2006 8:51:59 AM PDT by lfod1776
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Arec Barrwin

What is going away is his reelection chances, he had a lot staked on the race card.


6 posted on 04/11/2006 8:52:54 AM PDT by Tarpon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Arec Barrwin

No, actually, DNA tests don't conclusively prove that, or that a crime didn't happen, but this sure doesn't help. The DA seems to be not entirely objective about this case, though. Just in the last few days, he promised that DNA would prove a crime.


7 posted on 04/11/2006 8:53:13 AM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Arec Barrwin
A lot has been said in the press, particularly by some attorneys yesterday, that this case should go away," District Attorney Mike Nifong said at a community forum. "My presence here means that this case is not going away."

Of course it's not going away. The feminazi's and race pimps have had a field day persecuting the guys on the Lacrosse Team and now that they've got their teeth in they don't want to let go. Sheesh...

8 posted on 04/11/2006 8:53:34 AM PDT by pgkdan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Arec Barrwin
"The fact is that this case is proceeding the way a case should proceed," Nifong said to applause.

That's the problem. It's beginning to look as though this is not about the Duke University Lacross players. It's about an existent racial tension in Durham and the DA is exploiting it to win re-election.

To be fair, I still don't know what happened that evening. Until now, it seemed to me something may have happened, but now I wonder. But whether it did or not, this case, or lack thereof, should NEVER had been in the media like this. This DA has now trapped himself and he really has to prosecute it or totally lose all credibility--and the next election. If he prosecutes and loses, he can blame it on the jury.

The president of Duke University ought to resign for not supporting his institution. He's behaved shamefully. What a dreadful president.

9 posted on 04/11/2006 8:55:00 AM PDT by twigs
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Arec Barrwin
ANOTHER STUPID DA...sounds kinda like Fitz...no case but lets spend taxpayers money and continue to move forward...he likes all the attention?

the gal came in with injuries...no DNA match....sounds like she got mad at these guys...and so she accused them of gang rape...NO evidence this accusation is true whatsoever...what's with this DA anyway

10 posted on 04/11/2006 8:57:48 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Arec Barrwin

This clown made his announcement at a political rally for black Democrats. If that doesn't disqualify him from this case -- and from the bar -- I don't know what does.


11 posted on 04/11/2006 9:01:27 AM PDT by pabianice
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway
Just in the last few days, he promised that DNA would prove a crime.

He was right - it proved slander on the part of the woman.

12 posted on 04/11/2006 9:02:00 AM PDT by nina0113
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Arec Barrwin
Where's the crime?

Being a rich white male(first impression).

13 posted on 04/11/2006 9:04:40 AM PDT by razorback-bert (Kooks For Kinky)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: shield
He is in to deep.He should have kept his yap shut until all the facts were in.He smelled blood and went after it.As a 'DA',he should know better than anyone that a man is innocent until proven guilty.He swapped his better judgment for a few brownie points in the press.They may be guilty,who knows.Putting them on trial in the press is not the way to go about it.I would be willing to bet,a few of their parents have a few bucks to throw down on him.He better have a good case.I doubt he will get reelected no matter which side is up.Just speculating.The girl probably looks like McKinney's twin sister!
14 posted on 04/11/2006 9:11:39 AM PDT by xarmydog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Arec Barrwin
I'm a little hesitant to post this but I have some experience in this. I ran a night club and we would on occasion get strippers to perform. They work for a set fee (paid before they begin their act) and work for tips. The rules of engagement are made by them or their escorts. What can and can not be done. "Strippers" that get $ 400 each plus tips in a rural area are very well paid. The age of the strippers at this price would have been in low 20's and very good looking. For older less beautiful women if they were hired, a lesser fee would have been appropriate. unless "other" services were expected. The only other possibility would be that the players were duped by promises of younger girls. Sorry but women much older than their audience (the girl is 27) are never hired for pure entertainment. These "girls" were there to do more than stripping or lap dancing.
15 posted on 04/11/2006 9:14:44 AM PDT by TAP ONLINE
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Arec Barrwin

What is he doing? Is he crazy? This was an after-thought set-up to extort money from these students and nothing more. They ought to sue her for defamation and the DA ought to bring charges of false reporting. Absurd. Obscene. Ridiculous.


16 posted on 04/11/2006 9:18:11 AM PDT by BamaAndy (Heart & Iron--the story of America through an ordinary family. ISBN: 1-4137-5397-3)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: xarmydog

The actual crime committed is by that lying blk female. She should be charged with a crime. Then the young men accused of gang rape should file a suit against her. She has NO money or assets but a point needs to be made bigtime.


17 posted on 04/11/2006 9:18:59 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: TAP ONLINE

27 going on 50!


18 posted on 04/11/2006 9:24:56 AM PDT by xarmydog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Arec Barrwin

Doesn't the DA realize that if he were to Win this case in spite of the lqack of DNA evidence, he would be screwing up the chances of his "Brothers" getting out of prison based on any new analysis of DNA evidence that proves they were not the ones perpetrating the rape and/or murder?

He is playing with a Two Edged Sword here.

RamS


19 posted on 04/11/2006 9:29:10 AM PDT by RamingtonStall (More Guns ==> Less Crime! Get your CHL today! http://www.ohioccw.org/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Arec Barrwin

The need a Grand Jury. But which of the "White Boys" do they charge?


20 posted on 04/11/2006 11:49:40 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Proud soldier in the American Army of Occupation..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Arec Barrwin

Well then, who does the DNA belong to?


21 posted on 04/11/2006 11:53:04 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Proud soldier in the American Army of Occupation..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator

Stubborn son of a gun, ain't he?


22 posted on 04/11/2006 12:23:26 PM PDT by gop_gene
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: shield

I don't think we should leave out the other "exotic dancer". After all she made the calls and drove the accuser to Kroger's--personally, I think she put her up to it since the girl was falling down drunk.


23 posted on 04/11/2006 12:24:10 PM PDT by Neverforget01 (Only in New Jersey!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: nina0113

Does it prove that?


24 posted on 04/11/2006 2:54:14 PM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Mike Darancette

Could the alleged victim identify anyone in a line-up? If not, you are right - who are they going to charge?


25 posted on 04/11/2006 2:58:53 PM PDT by Cecily
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Cecily
who are they going to charge?

Two words: Tawana Brawley. I wonder if there would be such if it were a white girl and the Duke Basket Ball team.

26 posted on 04/11/2006 3:22:12 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Proud soldier in the American Army of Occupation..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: TAP ONLINE

I've been wondering whether what happened is, the hiring of the strippers was simply botched.

According to the reports, the lacrosse player Dan dealt with the escort agency and used the fake name Adam.

Maybe Dan was put in charge of the task of hiring the strippers, and instead of planning ahead, and taking the time several days prior to the party of actually going to a local strip club, checking out the strippers and arranging for two in particular to entertain at the party, Dan procrastinated.

He waited until too late, maybe even the afternoon of the party, and then desperately started calling around numbers out of a phone book. He found that the only place he could get someone to strip on such short notice were the two escort agencies, that it would be expensive ($800 plus tips), and then, when they actually showed up, Dan discovered he had hired older, overweight, drugged up african-american women.


27 posted on 04/11/2006 3:47:42 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Dan called the agency (Allure) that same afternoon and specfically requested white dancers. The team had a game in California on the 11th (incident was on the 13th) and had just gotten back into town. Not much time to plan ahead.


28 posted on 04/11/2006 6:01:45 PM PDT by Asceticon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: SirJohnBarleycorn
I have a few questions.

Where is "kim"? If the accuser was passed out on the lawn as the pictures purportedly show--who made the rape claim and when? Was it Kim, was it the boyfriend, or did the accuser sober up and suddenly remember?

Did Kim witness anything? Or did she wait outside for a half hour making 911 calls?

What was the alcohol level of the accuser? Could she ever be a reliable witness given her DUI's and rap sheet?

After the second 911 call to Kroger's did the accuser ask to be taken to the hospital? Was an ambulance called since she had so many cuts and bruises? Did the police send her off with the boyfriend? Wouldn't that be odd if she'd claimed rape right away?

29 posted on 04/11/2006 8:34:32 PM PDT by Neverforget01 (Only in New Jersey!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Neverforget01

From everything I've read, the time sequence relative to your questions is:

The two strippers start dancing sometime after midnight and stop dancing after only 3-4 minutes. According to the defense, they stopped dancing and went and locked themselves in the bathroom for 30 minutes. They then emerged and left the house and got into Kim's car.

The neighbor, who is watching the scene from next door, then overheard the accuser say, "I've got to go back in to get my shoes."

According to the defense, who claims to have a number of time-stamped photos supporting their account, she goes to the back door and bangs on the door but they don't let her in. They take pictures of her banging on the door with a big smile on her face, and she then falls down on the lawn, apparently sleeping or passed out.

According to the defense, the accuser was only passed out for a short time. One of the Duke students went out and helped her up, and there is a photo showing him helping her into Kim's car at 12:41.

The neighbor heard someone from the house shout "thank your grandpa for my nice cotton shirt" as they drove away.

At 12:55, Kim makes the first 911 call, complaining that a group of frat guys outside a house called her and her black girlfriend the n-word as they were (inconsistently) driving by/walking by/sitting in front of the house, and she gives the specific house address three times.

At 1:22, the security guard at Kroger calls 911 after Kim tells her a woman she picked up walking along the side of the road won't get out her car. The security guard notes the woman in the car appears intoxicated.

The police come. Within an hour, the designation of complaint is changed to a rape case, so it appears that it was when she was in the Kroger parking lot that the accuser told police she was raped. It is unknown if Kim was still around at this point, but it seems likely Kim left the scene as soon as she could. Apparently there are news reports saying that according to Kim, the accuser never told her she was raped.

At some point the boyfriend is called and comes to Kroger to get the accuser, and according to reports the boyfriend is the one who takes her to the hospital.


30 posted on 04/11/2006 9:07:31 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Arec Barrwin

WHERE'S KIM?


31 posted on 04/12/2006 3:08:38 AM PDT by anton
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

no sex (per DNA non-evidence) = no rape


32 posted on 04/12/2006 5:28:56 AM PDT by nina0113
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Arec Barrwin

One of the new lines now is that the negative DNA results were a direct result of a conflict of interest. The conspiracy is that the tests were done at Duke University Hospital and not at UNC Hospital in order to whitewash the results.


33 posted on 04/12/2006 5:46:12 AM PDT by Hatteras
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson