Posted on 04/28/2006 10:14:36 PM PDT by Greenpees
Phone call I recieved a few minutes ago. Our Plaza Housekeepers are not coming in on Monday. (It begins)
I asked why, of course, and she said they would be joining the protests. My response was "This is the wrong way, I like your family, and we've been as much freinds as co-workers, but this is going to change all that. It's the wrong way, and I don't think you know some of the really bad players involved in the planning of this. They have no interest in helping legal, or for that matter, illegal Mexicans"
I like and treat with respect all of our employees, but I told her, "I've just lost some of that respect" they've had all week to tell us, in fact we've been asking them if anyone planned to do this thing or not. I am personnally offended. For what they do, and the fact that they've been so reliable over the past two years, I have seen to it that they get an average pay of $11.00 and hour. (The highest rate on the Monterey Penninsula)
His daugher said that they HAD to do this protest, (I'm wondering about this statement, perhaps they're being threatened?)to show that they "matter". My response was, if you "didn't matter, We would be paying you $7.75 instead, but we've always taken care of each other, and this is our thanks"
She then implied that they wouldn't be able to get to work anyway due to "Rte 1 being blocked."
I am calling the Highway patrol to let them know.
Before you say "Fire them" Know that everyone involved has already given two weeks notice over this past week. We're already looking for replacements. Furthermore, don't misunderstand. These are not (supposedly)illegal alliens. They have I551 cards and verified SSA cards.
I'm beginning to think something is not above boards.
They had both already given notice in the past week, and will be leaving for Mexico by mid-month.
I sometimes read here that the Emplouyers should be punsihed for hiring these folks, but I really wonder. How many fake documents are there floating around. And, how many employers only "think" they have legal employees?
Anyway, I called her back to say, we'll get by just fine without them. (It will be quite a chore, but we can do it)
Is anyone else getting these calls?
Jose can you seeeeee ...
A pink slip?
Speaking as a Canadian, if you don't fire them you are just a gutless piece of wormdust.
Implies intimidation.
I should hope that you do....
Do call the HP.
Let them know what you were told.
2 weeks notice, my rear-end. Tell them not to bother coming back on the 2nd, and that you're informing the INS.
Interesting post. This invasion is better organized than people know. It even has tentacles in rural towns. Wonder who the Godfather is? He and those like him will be cracking a lot of whips over our heads in years to come.
Sounds like they are desperately afraid of an "incident."
That's pretty funny.
I think that these shenanigans will backfire. Like the old saying goes, "this ain't gonna play well in Peoria".
Well, I hope they at least keep the cameras rolling.
I have to say that I like the tagline - pithy and spot on.
---Before you say "Fire them" Know that everyone involved has already given two weeks notice over this past week. ---
Then why are you racking them over 1 day, if they're on their way out anyway?
Ditto on that.
I think he posted this because of the evidence of coordination (Rte 1 will be closed) and the air of intimidation (they HAD to go.)
ROTFLMAO!!
Any employer who claims to be honest, knows damned well they can go to the SS Web Site and confirm any Employee's legal status to be using their SS number.
Well, many commie groups have claimed to be in support of or involved in the organisation of this action. Folks forget that the commies remain a threat to the Federal Republic.
Commies and mafia-esque organizers and coordinators. Chiefly what I suspect and fear is more fascistic than Marxist--little dictators dealing in power swaps and corruption.
According to your FReeperpage, it reads, "A guy who can get things fixed."
I suggest you fix it by hiring some teens who aren't afraid of work. Or some retirees. Or some Veterans.
I think there's going to be a lot of new hirings reported next month. ANOTHER thing that makes Bush look good and counters the left as they shoot themselves in the foot yet again.
Well, SS card is not a photo ID - or does SS web site provide the mug shot of the rightful SS# possessor? It's not enough to check the correspondence of name to number. INS documents have mug shots, and so do US passports - and the paper trail of an inquiry to INS or State Dept [whether the document # such and such, Xerox copy provided, is genuine or not] ought to suffice.
Yes,
My concern is that this seems much more coordinated than one would expect. One of these people/protesters is about 60 yrs old, and in no way an activist of any kind. I'm a little shocked that they would even bother with such things.
By the way. The CHP was gracious and thankfull that I called. They didn't say whether others had called in, but did say that it was going to be a busy day.
OK, what got deleted at post #25?
Excerpted from: http://waysandmeans.house.gov/hearings.asp?formmode=printfriendly&id=4708
"To further increase the ease and convenience of verifying employee SSNs, SSA developed the Social Security Number Verification Service (SSNVS), which is an internet option that permits employer’s to quickly verify the accuracy of employees’ names and SSNs by matching the employee-provided information with SSA’s records. SSA expanded this service to all employers in June 2005. We processed over 25.7 million verifications for over 12,000 employers in 2005. "
"The information the employer submits to DHS is sent to SSA to verify that the social security number and name submitted match information in SSA records. SSA will also confirm US citizenship, thereby confirming work authorization; DHS confirms current work authorization for all non-citizens. DHS will notify the employer of the employee’s current work authorization status. This program is also available to all employers, subject to available resources."
Dara,
They've already quit. And they've called and given a two day notice of taking the day off. According to our company policy I CANNOT fire them, unless we'd like to hand over our company to them, with the blessing of the court.
This is California. If there are any CA,NV,AZ,TX folks on here, I would have to say, they may understand this a little better. We are literally at the pointy end of the spear, and we live it every day.
Fear and intimidation are in the air and the California State Senate is walking out in sympathy...with the illegals. Meantime the US Senate is lurking in the shadows trying to run the clock out. Funny how they were just grandstanding on the Dubai deal, showing how "tough" they were on national security.
It's going to be a long hot summere folks.
And how is one to verify somebody with a stolen SS card who uses the stolen name as well?
Ursus,
Not so. All you are confirming is that the number, and name, matches the person sitting in front of you bearing an ID or drivers licence.
My suspicion is that the SSA Card is valid, but how they obtain them may not be valid. We're gambling that the SSA cross checks every I55I with the INS prior to issuing a SSA Card. I really have to wonder how good that cross check is, we are talking about Government Agencies here.
Me likey! :)
Also there's no requirement for you to approve the time off even if they requested it.
You can also let people go even if they give notice. "Thank you for your service, we are no longer in need of your service, here's your paycheck."
-Not that I'm telling you to do it any differently than you are doing it, and kudo's for calling the CHP - but sometimes people are afraid of terminating and at the end of the day, you're still the employer and do have at least in theory some rights - even in California. :)
My place of empoyment: If we're not there on Monday, we'll need a doctor's explaination.
It is going to be real hard to get a clean hotel/motel room in the West come Monday.
I've seen CSI: Mo/Hotels aren't really CLEAN, anyway! LOL!
OK, so maybe I should have put "clean" in quotes. ;-)
Si!
:-D
Fire them and hire Americans...of any race.
I am calling the Highway patrol to let them know.
I hope the Highway Patrol won't be ordered to let them.
This is planned for May Day, after all.
So they were already leaving and had resigned en masse?
Yes,
Three people at once, all claiming they needed to go back to Mexico for various reasons. I suspected something was up, and I'm sure that this is related.
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