Posted on 05/06/2006 2:03:32 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
I know that there have been a number of articles about false rape claims in light of the Duke situation. Here is a quote from one:
"False charges do exist. FBI statistics show that about 9 percent of rape reports are ''unfounded" -- dismissed without charges being filed. This usually happens when the accuser recants or when her story is not just unsupported but contradicted by evidence. Some studies, including one by pioneering date rape researcher Eugene Kanin, put the rate of false accusations at one in four or even higher."
Source: Rape Charge as Weapon
Well, she admitted that they stopped when she said "no."
You call that rape?
"Semen proves sex."
Yup. And sex outside of marriage used to be illegal, as was adultery and homosexual sex.
All should still be that way.
I was a naive college freshman, also on my university crew team, and had never had a sip of alcohol until the first weekend in the dorms. Many times I drank way too much and I was most fortunate that no one took advantage of my intoxication. Fortunately, I realized quickly that I needed to moderate my drinking, and that enjoying a nice microbrew (or two) on a Saturday night while watching movies was a lot better than going out and getting royally trashed.
I found that the "athlete" culture at my university revolved around drinking and recreational drug use (with the exception of a handful of high profile, nationally known athletes). Several teammates were functional alcoholics, although I didn't realize it until after I quit the team my sophomore year to focus on academics. Our coach did little to discourage "party" behavior as long as team members continued to show up to all practices.
I'm not saying I believe this girl's story automatically - but intoxication does not equal consent, and it is a shame she didn't come forward immediately when physical evidence could be collected to support her story. It would be helpful to know if others heard the alleged rapists' confessions later on.
So [in NY] is having sex with your wife if she says 'No'.
Are you talking about this part"
Her mother, who has advocated for her every step of the way, is equally disillusioned. "You don't send your children to a world-class university (Wisconsin) for this to happen to them," she said.
Wisconsin is not "world-class".
FYI Ping.
World class party school, maybe. I have an unpopular answer - end college athletics, stop giving athletic scholarships, force alleged athletes to compete academically instead of organizing cheats for them (3 credit course, basketball coaching; 3 credit course, badminton coaching; tutors who do homework for star atheletes, etc).
Go ahead and keep reading you're own biases into what I wrote. Reality, that is actually reading what I wrote and not infering things that were not actually written, is too tough apparently.
The reality is that, of the 911 calls reporting rape, the vast majority, we're talking about in the neighborhood of 95%, involve a woman trying to either get attention from the police, her significant other or family, or who has gotten pregnant from someone other than her husband. The latter scenario is quite common and is used to cover up a pregnancy that may not be explained or the race of the baby does not match that of the husband.
Many, many, many mental women report being raped. And some do it repeatedly. These women have something wrong with their noggin and want to report being raped for some unknown reason.
Some women report being raped after getting screwed over by their significant other. I've even seen, in my short time in this job, women report being raped because she "loaned" her car to a guy in exchange for some crack and he is a couple of days late in returning it.
Now, that being said, I did not say that 90% of those who were raped are lying. I said that 90% of REPORTED rapes are B.S..
That leaves those that are unreported. I have no idea how many go unreported, but obviously there are quite a few.
So take your biases against men, police, or guys who post on the internet: whatever your problem is, somewhere else.
I deal with reality.
I believe you mean coaberate (sp?) not collaborate. At least, i hope that's what you mean.
I'll probably get whomped here, but I think, as it was reported here, it wasn't rape. I think she should be responsible for what she does, and if she drinks herself into a stupor and doesn't realize she's going to the room of 2 drunk guys and they crawl on top of her and stop after she objects, then ....gee. I'm sorry for her. (said sarcastically)
I know, this is not a popular stance. But how come she can be irresponsible when drunk, but the males can't. Maybe they were too drunk to be charged with a crime, how about that?
I'm female and i still feel this way. I pity the girl, yet have no pity for her, if you know what I mean.
The word I meant to say was "corroborate".
Thank you very much for catching that!
Wow. Yesterday, you stated that 90% of rape complaints were false. Now it's gone up to 95%. You must have done a whole hell of a lot of rape complaint investigations in the last 24 hours. I congratulate you on your industriousness.
Now, that being said, I did not say that 90% of those who were raped are lying. I said that 90% of REPORTED rapes are B.S..
So, only the women who are raped who don't report being raped can be trusted? Sounds oddly like the old 'throw the suspected witch in the pond and if she doesn't float, she's telling the truth' test.
So take your biases against men, police, or guys who post on the internet: whatever your problem is, somewhere else.
Yes, my problem is most definitely that I have biases against men, police, and guys who post on the internet, rather than a bias against people who make up unsupportable bs statistics. By the way, did you know that 93.223% of internet posters who automatically pull out the bias accusation vote democrat?
not to "blame the victim" but that dumb-a$$" chick was just asking for it by being drunk and talking in a provacative manner to two college aged guys. Alcohol + testosterone + available girl = sex
I caught it, but darned if I could spell it! :D
Still having trouble reading words and actually understanding them. I can't have conversation with someone who can't understand the King's English.
Sorry for whatever happened to you but my comments were not directed at you, just the real numbers I'm seeing every day.
I agree 100%. If she said stop, and they stopped, there's no rape.
With the Duke case being so prominent, I think it's going to become all the rage for various and sundry campus drama queens to crawl out of the woodwork with this crap.
...and 65% of all statistics are made up on the spot!!
Let it alone, even I could pick your "logic" apart. He has an experience, he's sharing it. Ok, so he's guessing at the percentage, who cares, it can be garnered that many, many, even most maybe, reports are false. That doesn't address in any way the ones that aren't reported, no reflection on them.
There are better things to pick apart. We all have our "hot buttons" and this much be yours, but it's ok, you've said your piece, don't go on just to argue.
It's not going anywhere.
A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still...
The Mom
It makes little sense to tell someone to drop an issue long after it's been dropped. Move along.
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