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UT running back arrested for marijuana possesion.
Austin (un)American Statesman ^ | 05-16-06 | Laura Skelding

Posted on 05/16/2006 11:26:32 AM PDT by evets


The owner of a pecan farm near where Ramonce Taylor was arrested on a drug charge said Monday that the University of Texas running back and his friends crashed an outdoor college graduation party for his daughter.

At about 1:30 a.m. Sunday, Stewart said, his son and several party guests complained to him that about seven uninvited guests were trying to sell drugs and he asked them to leave, he said.

A short time later, Bell County sheriff's deputies arrested Taylor, 20, at a nearby convenience store and accused him of possessing five pounds of marijuana.

Taylor called Bell County sheriff's deputies at about 1:30 a.m. reporting a fight involving as many as 100 people at the farm, according to the affidavit. He complained that the window of his vehicle was broken at the pecan farm. When deputies responded to Taylor's call, he told them that people at the party "provoked a fight and demanded that he leave," the affidavit says.

While deputies were talking to Taylor, they learned from fellow deputies — who were by that time at the pecan farm — that Taylor was being accused of threatening to return with a gun, the affidavit said. When Taylor consented to a search of his vehicle — a 2004 Chevy Tahoe — deputies found 5.3 pounds of marijuana in a bag stitched with "Big 12 Conference."

Taylor's lawyer, Robert "Buck" Harris of Killeen, said that if his client knew there were drugs in the car, he would not have called Bell County sheriff's deputies or allowed them to search his vehicle.

"He's not playing hide the ball. If he's carrying five pounds of marijuana, either he's the stupidest person alive or thinks he's bulletproof," Harris said after the brief arraignment hearing in Belton.

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1 posted on 05/16/2006 11:26:34 AM PDT by evets
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To: evets

I guess it is possible he was set up...but I'm voting for either stupid or assumed bulletproofness.


2 posted on 05/16/2006 11:28:14 AM PDT by P-40
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To: P-40

5.3 pounds is a lot of fun-time weed.


3 posted on 05/16/2006 11:28:58 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: rhombus

Medicinal. It's for his glaucoma


4 posted on 05/16/2006 11:30:08 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: evets

Following in Rickie's footsteps.


5 posted on 05/16/2006 11:30:43 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: evets

That should move him up to a first round draft pick. Looks like he will have a long career in the NFL.


6 posted on 05/16/2006 11:31:42 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: evets
That should read "former UT running back".

He wasn't allowed to attend the White House function for the National Championship team, he wasn't given a National Championship ring, and he didn't workout this spring with the team.

From what I understand, he was headed towards a jr. college as a result of "academic" problems, although it sounds more like he had problems with responsibility, i.e., pissing away a future career.
7 posted on 05/16/2006 11:31:56 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: P-40
I guess it is possible he was set up...but I'm voting for either stupid or assumed bulletproofness.

I don't think he was setup, I think he made some poor decisions, and that was why he was booted off the team long before now.

I'm just waiting to hear somebody on TV say "he turned to drugs because UT kicked him out or Mack Brown kicked him off the team and wouldn't give him a National Championship ring". Anybody but Taylor will get blamed for this.
9 posted on 05/16/2006 11:34:27 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: P-40

personal use defense


10 posted on 05/16/2006 11:34:34 AM PDT by don'tbedenied ( D)
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To: Baynative

Gotta be a full time gig


11 posted on 05/16/2006 11:37:43 AM PDT by digger48
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To: Baynative
Parents to blame for naming son "Ramonce".

"My name is Sue, how do you do!"
12 posted on 05/16/2006 11:38:03 AM PDT by evets (You can't zot me. I'm already banned.)
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To: af_vet_rr; SuzyQue

How long ago was he kicked out? Did he play in the title game?


13 posted on 05/16/2006 11:39:20 AM PDT by benjamin032
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To: evets; eyespysomething

He should be put to death.

If we want to win the War on Drugs we are going to have to make possession and especially trafficking a crime punishable by death.


14 posted on 05/16/2006 11:39:23 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Como se llama, bonita, mi casa, su casa)
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To: don'tbedenied
personal use defense

I wonder if Willie Nelson will testify in his defense? :)
15 posted on 05/16/2006 11:39:42 AM PDT by P-40
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To: P-40
No, he wasn't set up. He's a stupid guy who is emulating Ricky Williams and throwing away a potential lucrative career in football. The guy would rather get doped up and waste his talent, flushing his free college education down the drain. He's a bum and I don't feel one bit sorry for him. Good riddance, Texas!
16 posted on 05/16/2006 11:39:53 AM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are familiar bedfellows)
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To: evets

Dat chile is oft dah muscle!


17 posted on 05/16/2006 11:40:48 AM PDT by RexBeach ("There is no substitute for victory." -Douglas MacArthur)
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To: evets
I thought that was a picture of Moussaoui...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zacarias_Moussaoui
18 posted on 05/16/2006 11:52:42 AM PDT by P-40
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To: benjamin032
How long ago was he kicked out? Did he play in the title game?

He scored a touchdown in the second quarter.

When he was "excused" from spring training to focus on his academic career, I figured at the time that he had flunked out.

The fact that he was booted before the spring semester and not before spring training like I thought (I just saw Brown's statement) would lead me to believe that he had some personal problems. The White House trip/Ring presentation was in February I believe, well after the spring semester had started, and the fact that he wasn't allowed to participate in either of those by Mack Brown would lead me to lean towards non-academic problems.

This is Mack Brown's official statement from a few days ago:

“Ramonce was excused from the team prior to the spring semester to focus on his academics and has not participated in any team functions since that time. We are aware of this recent situation and will follow it as the legal system runs its course. At this time, we will not consider reinstating him to the team.”

You can read that a lot of ways, but either he failed or he caused problems and the academic thing was a "thank you for your time here, don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you".
19 posted on 05/16/2006 11:56:47 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: benjamin032

Yes, he did play THE game:

Brown excuses Taylor from spring practice
Texas coach Mack Brown has excused running back Ramonce Taylor from spring football so he can focus on academics...Taylor scored 15 touchdowns last season, including a 30-yard scoring run in the Rose Bowl against Southern Cal, which Texas won 41-38. The win gave Texas its first outright national championship since 1969.
From Dallas Morning News, March 5, 2006


20 posted on 05/16/2006 11:59:05 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: af_vet_rr

Sorry, I didn't see your reply.


21 posted on 05/16/2006 11:59:52 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: af_vet_rr

He's still in school at t.u., which means while he may not be participating in spring practices, they expected they would keep him around. This arrest may change things, but given t.u.'s turning a blind eye to other criminal behavior (Tim Moss, Madisonville 4, etc.), I'll believe it when I see it.


22 posted on 05/16/2006 12:02:03 PM PDT by 1L
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To: evets

I'm not anti drug by a long shot but there is a reason they call it dope.


23 posted on 05/16/2006 12:06:18 PM PDT by FOG724 (A vote for Arnold is a vote for a Democrat)
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To: SuzyQue
You know, it's funny, when I saw the article you mentioned back in March, I thought he had academic problems and UT was being polite (UT is very "polite" when it comes to athletes and grades, after the whole 1998 fiasco with the basketball player's grades and the radio station, and the subsequent lawsuit a few years later).

To find out that it was before the semester started..it's very possible they had the final grades before the semester started (not familiar with the schedule) and Brown is a stickler for NCAA regulations, which would have required Taylor to be ineligible to pratice in the spring.

But something just tells me though that he had some other issues going on. If they thought he would raise his grades up in time for the summer practices and fall games, it seems like they wouldn't have severed ties with him the way they did.
24 posted on 05/16/2006 12:07:29 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: 1L
He's still in school at t.u., which means while he may not be participating in spring practices, they expected they would keep him around. This arrest may change things, but given t.u.'s turning a blind eye to other criminal behavior (Tim Moss, Madisonville 4, etc.), I'll believe it when I see it.

From what I heard this morning, he was in the paperwork process of transferring to a juco (I think UT got out last week).

I don't think they planned on keeping him around, and definitely not after this.

Think about it - going by NCAA regulations he was eligible to play in the Rose Bowl, therefore he would have been eligible to receive a ring and visit the WH - for them to pull his ring and his visit to the White House. That's pretty harsh.
25 posted on 05/16/2006 12:13:31 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

First of all, the story I read said he had a final at t.u. on Monday. That means he was in school.

Second, the trip to the WH was probably conditioned on him being in "good standing" whatever that means. I bet there are other team members that for one reason or another didn't make the trip. This means absolutely nothing, and I know of no NCAA regulation that would be relevent. Anyone can go to the WH for any reason.

Finally, I seriously doubt he didn't get a ring. Do you have a source on this?


26 posted on 05/16/2006 12:18:00 PM PDT by 1L
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To: 1L

In school where? What's TU?


27 posted on 05/16/2006 12:21:23 PM PDT by jra
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To: jra

That is how Texas Aggies like to characterize UT.

Nothing makes a Texas Aggie quite as happy as calling UT "TU."

Now you know why UT kicks their butt in everything.


28 posted on 05/16/2006 12:26:41 PM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: David Allen

Okay, I'll bite...

A&M, if I'm not mistaken, has aggies for their mascot...

What's a Texas Aggie?


29 posted on 05/16/2006 12:29:04 PM PDT by jra
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To: evets; Baynative
Parents to blame for naming son "Ramonce".

"Parents" as in plural? I think not. Well at least is mother didn't name him Antwan.

30 posted on 05/16/2006 12:32:39 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: HEY4QDEMS

What took ya' so long?


31 posted on 05/16/2006 12:33:58 PM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: P-40

I am voting for stupid. It never ceases to amaze me how many people voluntarily allow the police to search their car even when they know that something illegal (drugs, etc.) are in it!


32 posted on 05/16/2006 12:34:30 PM PDT by TaxMe
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To: 1L
First of all, the story I read said he had a final at t.u. on Monday. That means he was in school.

I'm not saying he wasn't in school for the spring semester, I'm saying that it sounded like this was it and he was trying to get his grades up enough to transfer to a juco.

Second, the trip to the WH was probably conditioned on him being in "good standing" whatever that means. I bet there are other team members that for one reason or another didn't make the trip. This means absolutely nothing, and I know of no NCAA regulation that would be relevent.

The fact that they booted him before the beginning of the semester could have headed off pertinent NCAA regulations that would have automatically triggered - I would think NCAA regulations would prevent an academically ineligble athlete from participating in a school/athletic related event, and a trip to the WH because of a National Championship would probably fall into that category. I think Mack Brown had every right to boot him from the team before then and keep him from attending.

Finally, I seriously doubt he didn't get a ring. Do you have a source on this?

He wasn't allowed to participate in the ring ceremony at all. A friend who was there implied that unless it was an emergency, if you were going to get a ring, you were going to be at the ceremony.

Unless you have proof otherwise that he is an upstanding citizen, I'm telling you that I think he probably was a bad apple. People (his lawyers) are trying to paint this as an innocent mistake, or that he just showed up at some A&M graduation or end-of-semester party out in the middle of Bell County or that he was invited or whatever.

According to the owners of the property (who also happen to be the parents of the students who organized it), the party had booze, music, dancing, etc., and that could certainly get out of hand, but it sounded to me like a normal party and he was uninvited and tried to stick around anyways (which led to the fight(s), or as one of the local columnists called it, the "Showdown at the Hoedown").
33 posted on 05/16/2006 12:42:03 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: jra

An Aggie is not a mascot. An Aggie is a student at A&M. The "A" stands for agriculture, hence Aggies. Our mascot is a collie named Reveille.


34 posted on 05/16/2006 1:02:37 PM PDT by AggieMom x 3
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To: jra
Aggie - short for Agricultural. A&M (M = Mechanical) was originally an agricultural/mechanical-oriented school

They still have one helluva good engineering school (and they are good natured about it - when the Red Bull Flugtag thing game came to Austin a few years ago, A&M's entry was constructed out of duct tape).

They also have one of the premier agricultural research schools (or however you want to call characterize it) in the world. They've turned out a lot of good vets as well.

They have a campus down at Galveston or Corpus, that has a large ship that goes out and does underwater archaelogy research (for a long time they were venturing to somewhere around Turkey). The Naval and Coast Guard ROTC cadets ran the ship (or did), while the archaelogy students do their research. It's one of those unique real-world experiences that most colleges don't have.

If my kids hadn't gone to one of the Acadamies or to UT, I would have preferred they went to A&M or Texas Tech (which was also agricultural/mechanical-oriented when it first started out as well) - both are good schools.
35 posted on 05/16/2006 1:04:04 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: evets

I bet he ends up playing for the miami dolphins


36 posted on 05/16/2006 1:30:14 PM PDT by isom35
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To: af_vet_rr

Yep, A&M is a good school, but I do prefer UT.

Some families are all one of other. Some, like mine, are divided between the two, which is great for Thanksgiving!


37 posted on 05/16/2006 1:31:55 PM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: David Allen

Some families are all one OR the other.


38 posted on 05/16/2006 1:32:54 PM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: jra

Did you know that there are three types of Aggies?
Those who can count and those who can't.


39 posted on 05/16/2006 1:41:21 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Kooks For Kinky)
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To: af_vet_rr

>>trying to get his grades up enough to transfer to a juco<<

No one "tries" to get their grades up to transfer to a juco. Jucos have open admission standards and if his grades were a problem, he'd have withdrawn from school.

>>The fact that they booted him before the beginning of the semester<<

They didn't. It was prior to spring practice.

>>academically ineligble athlete<<

There isn't any evidence that he lost any eligibility. Brown could have used the school work as an excuse to see how he'd behave without practicing. Brown has said he would "remain on scholarship until the case" has been resolved.

>>I think Mack Brown had every right to boot him from the team before then and keep him from attending. <<

I don't disagree, but I don't think he was ever actually booted from the team.

>>Unless you have proof otherwise that he is an upstanding citizen<<

Are you kidding? He's a rat just like a bunch of others down there.

What I'm saying is that what's being said now as damage control for the t.u. football team isn't necessarily the facts.


40 posted on 05/16/2006 1:51:56 PM PDT by 1L
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To: 1L
They didn't. It was prior to spring practice.

Mack Brown said semester, not practice.

Either way, perhaps you are right, perhaps Brown did bump him from practice or the team (depending on view point) to "see how he'd behave without practicing."

That would lead me to believe that Taylor had some kind of personal issues that were going on long before this party/fight thing.
41 posted on 05/16/2006 2:35:05 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: FOG724
there is a reason they call it dope.

What's that reason? Does it apply any less to the legal drug alcohol?

42 posted on 05/16/2006 3:34:00 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights
What's that reason? Does it apply any less to the legal drug alcohol?

You are picking a fight with the wrong person my dear. I'm pro legalization.

43 posted on 05/16/2006 5:34:28 PM PDT by FOG724 (A vote for Arnold is a vote for a Democrat)
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To: AggieMom x 3

I get the Aggie part.

Why Texas Aggies when there are Texas Longhorns?


44 posted on 05/16/2006 9:59:29 PM PDT by jra
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To: jra
Why Seminoles when there are Gators?
One thing I have always liked about UT is the high academic standards when compared to other Major NCAA football programs.
45 posted on 05/17/2006 8:50:58 AM PDT by benjamin032
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To: evets
Looks like they are playing the race card. I expect Johnny Cochrane and Jesse Jackson to fly in any day now.
46 posted on 05/17/2006 8:49:40 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: benjamin032

The difference is that there are the Florida Gators and the Florida STATE Seminoles.

Are A&M fans afraid of their own school's name?

Texas Aggies?!?


47 posted on 05/17/2006 11:28:53 PM PDT by jra
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To: jra; SuzyQue
Ah, I see. I've always called them either A&M or the Aggies, never the Texas Aggies. I don't think that I've ever even heard that before. I;ll refer to my Texas Cultural Adviser, but it's as wrong as Anne Richards in leather pants.
48 posted on 05/18/2006 8:00:53 AM PDT by benjamin032
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To: af_vet_rr

Heck, if they got Johnny Cochran there even *I* would have to vote for an aquittal!!


49 posted on 05/18/2006 6:13:03 PM PDT by somniferum
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To: somniferum

I meant to say Al Sharpton since Johnny is dead, but I was thinking about what a friend had said earlier - "If the backpack don't fit, you must acquit" - you can picture him saying that, can't you?


50 posted on 05/19/2006 9:23:22 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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