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Dane-Geld
Rudyard Kipling | Rudyard Kipling

Posted on 06/20/2006 5:21:20 AM PDT by Clive

It is always a temptation to an armed and agile nation
To call upon a neighbour and to say: --
"We invaded you last night--we are quite prepared to fight,
Unless you pay us cash to go away."

And that is called asking for Dane-geld,
And the people who ask it explain
That you've only to pay 'em the Dane-geld
And then you'll get rid of the Dane!

It is always a temptation for a rich and lazy nation,
To puff and look important and to say: --
"Though we know we should defeat you, we have not the time to meet you.
We will therefore pay you cash to go away."

And that is called paying the Dane-geld;
But we've proved it again and again,
That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
You never get rid of the Dane.

It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation,
For fear they should succumb and go astray;
So when you are requested to pay up or be molested,
You will find it better policy to say: --

"We never pay any-one Dane-geld,
No matter how trifling the cost;
For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
And the nation that pays it is lost!"


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The military has come under criticism by the uncle of one of the soldiers who were abducted and killed by insurgent forces.

His view was that ransom ought to have been paid.

1 posted on 06/20/2006 5:21:22 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive; Dane

Customary to ping someone if you refer to them in your post (j/k)


2 posted on 06/20/2006 5:25:47 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Rugged individualists of the world, unite!)
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To: Hegemony Cricket; Dane; Great Dane
It took a moment for the penny to drop.
3 posted on 06/20/2006 5:28:22 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive

Good post. Thanks. And that is not a joke, j/k(? whatever). I dispair.


4 posted on 06/20/2006 5:29:40 AM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: Clive

Perfect!

Thanks for reminding us. I fear we've already gone down the road of paying the Dane geld. Now it's time to stand up and say, "No more."

The consequences will be the same whether we take them now or wait for them to escalate.


5 posted on 06/20/2006 5:30:44 AM PDT by colorcountry ( Run with scissors???? I can barely jog my memory)
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To: Clive

hehehe :-)


6 posted on 06/20/2006 5:30:54 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Rugged individualists of the world, unite!)
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To: Clive

I feel sorry abd empathize with the Uncle's anguish, but paying off terrorists only encourages more terrorism.


7 posted on 06/20/2006 5:32:44 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Clive

Kipling had it right, but we seldom are reminded.


8 posted on 06/20/2006 5:33:19 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: Clive

Pay the ransom, and then have open season on US military.


9 posted on 06/20/2006 5:35:18 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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"His view was that ransom ought to have been paid."

Obviously and utterly devoid of common sense, ignorant of history, and able to exist only through the sacrifices of better men than himself --- including his nephew.

He is unaware of the Barbary Pirates, ironically the very same cultural barbarians that we are fighting today. One of the earliest and proudest achievements of a nascent nation, "fixing", again ironically, a European problem that the Euroweenies were unable to deal with.

Semper Fi!

10 posted on 06/20/2006 5:38:08 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Hegemony Cricket

ROFLMAO. The thought entered my mind while reading as well.


11 posted on 06/20/2006 5:38:40 AM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?")
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To: Clive
Unfortunately Mr. Kipling's poem goes way beyond the discussion of ransom for one soldier.

"We never pay any-one Dane-geld,
No matter how trifling the cost;
For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
And the nation that pays it is lost!"

How many times since WWII have we been willing and actually practiced "Dane-geld"?

And still do this day.

Great find and timely post.

12 posted on 06/20/2006 5:44:46 AM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?")
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To: Clive

Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.

Charles Cotesworth Pinckney


13 posted on 06/20/2006 5:49:54 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
You never get rid of the Dane.

And then you get the Dane-law.

14 posted on 06/20/2006 3:54:29 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Make them go home!!)
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The military has come under criticism by the uncle of one of the soldiers who were abducted and killed by insurgent forces.

Yep. Another unassailable human shield for the leftist Democrat party. He's quite the Drive By Media darling.

Ann Coulter is right.

15 posted on 06/21/2006 3:15:08 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Build the fence. Sí, Se Puede!)
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