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(vanity) has anyone else noticed this ?

Posted on 07/25/2006 12:15:44 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative

Has anyone else ever noticed that many people "mainly liberals" like to get personal instead of debating the issues.

For instance, I was on another message board debating a woman about the war. She told me "war is always wrong" "bush is a war monger". I came back with a response, did not personally attack her. I typed out many reasons on why we should fight terrorism. Her response was "why arent you in the military if you like war so much"... WHAT ?? 1. I never said I like war. 2. it is none of her business on why I have never joined the army.

I was debating another person in another thread. It started as just casual conversation. I told her I had just got back from visiting my girlfriend in Canada. We went on, I brought up some of the problems there are in our society and how christian values are under attack, Later on she posts a question asking me if I stayed at a hotel while I was in Canada, I say no, she says where did you stay. I am thinking "why does she care", I answer and tell her I stayed at my girlfriends apartment. not long after that she uses that to discredit me in the debate by saying. "that is not very christlike, you should have waited for marriage". for 1 how does she know we did anything. and 2 it was none of her business.

you notice the trend. when you have no substance, you attack like a pit bull. that is the liberal way. It is amazes me everytime I see. Same style, same wording from the SAME type of people.

like they are all clones.


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1 posted on 07/25/2006 12:15:45 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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you notice the trend. when you have no substance, you attack like a pit bull. that is the liberal way.

I see that a lot on the illegal immigration threads, such as folks playing the race card against those who want a crackdown on illegal immigration. It isn't just a liberal thang.

2 posted on 07/25/2006 12:17:33 PM PDT by dirtboy (Glad to see the ink was still working in Bush's veto pen, now that he wisely used it on this bill)
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Oh yeah. Liberal Tactic 1. Since they cannot compete on the battle field of ideas they have to deflect their foes off message. The easiest way to do that is to launch into a personal attack. Either their opponent responses in kind or trys to defend themselves which takes them off message.

Easiest way to response is simply point out how they are merely attempting to duck the issue by making a completely illogical meaningless personal attack.
3 posted on 07/25/2006 12:19:09 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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Do you take them on a lot on other boards? If so, look up the keyword, "NUKETHELEFT." It's a reference point for acquiring ammunition for these endeavors against them. I just started this about 3 weeks ago.

I get quite addicted to this myself.

4 posted on 07/25/2006 12:19:20 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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Her response was "why arent you in the military if you like war so much" This is a Michael Moore tactic ... I think a good response is : Once YOU join the Taliban, I will join the US Army!


5 posted on 07/25/2006 12:20:00 PM PDT by VoodooEconomics
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LOL!! I'll have to borrow that line!


6 posted on 07/25/2006 12:21:06 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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Rush stated today that debating leftists is often futile because so many of them truly are idiots and if you think you can change their minds you will most likely end up sounding like an idiot as well. Wish I could remember his exact words because they were very cleaver, but was his jest.


7 posted on 07/25/2006 12:22:32 PM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are intimate bedfellows)
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Of course the fact that some of the people screaming for a "Shoot the illegals on sight" agenda on the Illegal threads ARE racists doesn't matter. NO instead we should attack the Freeprs who are pointing out an uncomforatable truth instead of holding those posters accountable for their race based agenda.


8 posted on 07/25/2006 12:23:09 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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Her response was "why arent you in the military if you like war so much"...

This is the response the commies have for anyone that supports the Troops and the mission. Others are......


9 posted on 07/25/2006 12:25:54 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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I hate to say it, but some conservatives do it too. I was always more pro-choice than pro-life (although I'm not as ardent about it now.) When I first came to FR, I'd get into debates about abortion, and conservatives would often demand to know whether I'd ever had one. Of course, I never answered because no matter how you answer, they use that to disqualify you from even having an opinion. Never had an abortion? Then you don't know what you're supporting. Oh, you've had one? Then you're just afraid to admit to yourself that what you've done is wrong. I think liberals are more vicious about it, but both sides do it.


10 posted on 07/25/2006 12:28:26 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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After I state the fact that I already served, I usually get, "Join up AGAIN!"

Morons all.


11 posted on 07/25/2006 12:29:10 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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Of course the fact that some of the people screaming for a "Shoot the illegals on sight" agenda on the Illegal threads ARE racists doesn't matter.

There's only a few of those, and they typically don't last very long. But that never stops folks like you from using such posts to paint the entire movement, does it?

NO instead we should attack the Freeprs who are pointing out an uncomforatable truth instead of holding those posters accountable for their race based agenda.

Hmmm ... groups such as the Minutemen actively worked to screen bigots from their organization. But I guess they are somehow still guilty to you of bigotry.

12 posted on 07/25/2006 12:29:10 PM PDT by dirtboy (Glad to see the ink was still working in Bush's veto pen, now that he wisely used it on this bill)
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another thing that is funny.

some of the older liberals in the 55-65 age group are so mentally screwed that they think this is just like Vietnam. and my generation is faced with all of these really big problems and looking for solutions, we dont know what to make of their pathetic vitrol.


13 posted on 07/25/2006 12:32:51 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (If you love peace more than you love freedom, you are bound to be left hopeless with neither one)
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like they are all clones.

And the cloner excluded the brain.
14 posted on 07/25/2006 12:33:14 PM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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probably so to extent.


15 posted on 07/25/2006 12:35:10 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (If you love peace more than you love freedom, you are bound to be left hopeless with neither one)
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When someone posts, to general approval on the Illegal thread, that they would "vote for anyone who issued a shoot on sight order" they are NOT motivated by a serious concern about the issue but by bigotry and hate.


16 posted on 07/25/2006 12:35:39 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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When someone posts, to general approval on the Illegal thread, that they would "vote for anyone who issued a shoot on sight order" they are NOT motivated by a serious concern about the issue but by bigotry and hate.

And they are typically booted from FR. And the Minutemen block folks like that from their organization.

Hey, David Duke was a Republican. Does that mean the Dems are correct when they point to him as proof that pubbies are all closet Klansmen?

Of course not. But that isn't much different from what you are doing here, playing the race card.

17 posted on 07/25/2006 12:38:29 PM PDT by dirtboy (Glad to see the ink was still working in Bush's veto pen, now that he wisely used it on this bill)
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Morons all.

So true!!!

I answer, "DUH, I'm old - but I tried to enlist anyway!"

18 posted on 07/25/2006 12:44:17 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
we dont know what to make of their pathetic vitrol.

No sane person knows what to make of them! All you can do is recite the facts.

This is NOT Vietnam.
We do NOT have a draft.
The war is NOT being waged from the oval office.
The USA was viciously attacked - what would you have done?

There are many more responses. Pick your battles.

Several weeks ago a raging nut job got within two feet of me in front of the White House. He started screaming, "I WAS IN VIETNAM, WHERE WERE YOU?" (as if that made him more qualified to comment on THIS war than I)

I stepped toward him and screamed right back, "I WAS AT HOME SUPPORTING MY MARINE HUSBAND THAT WAS IN VIETNAM!"

He was running away before I could finish my sentence! LOL!

19 posted on 07/25/2006 12:55:52 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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awesome !. LOL

you are so cool.


20 posted on 07/25/2006 12:58:09 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (If you love peace more than you love freedom, you are bound to be left hopeless with neither one)
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