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Rare Lincoln Letter Found in Allentown
AP ^ | July 19, 2006 | AP

Posted on 07/26/2006 3:22:50 PM PDT by stainlessbanner

ALLENTOWN, Pa. (AP) - July 19, 2006 - A University of Illinois researcher had discovered a fourth copy of a rare letter Abraham Lincoln had written by to the nation's governors in 1861.

The letter John Lupton found Tuesday in the Lehigh County Historical Society's holdings was one Lincoln wrote as part of an unsuccessful ratification process for a constitutional amendment Congress adopted during the term of his predecessor, President James Buchanan, that would have made slavery the law of the land.

The president remembered for abolishing slavery had been willing to push the amendment as "kind of a carrot to the Southern states" if that would preserve the union, said Lupton, associate director of the Papers of Abraham Lincoln Project of the Illinois Historic Preservation Agency.

"But even by that point, it was too late. By that time, the Southern states felt Lincoln's election was an affront," Lupton said. In fact, the letter discovered in Allentown was addressed to "His Excellency the Governor of the State of Florida," which had seceded from the union two months earlier.

Until Tuesday, only three of the letters were known to have survived. "It's a very cool document," Lupton said.

Joseph Garrera, the historical society director, said he will consult with the society's board to determine the best way to display the document and try to figure out exactly who donated the letter.


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To: azhenfud
Debunks the claim slavery was the root cause of the war.

No, it doesn't. It proves that the southern democrats were willing to fight to keep what Lincoln was willing to give them LEGALLY.

Like the world's oldest profession, Man's oldest possession wasn't legal by any legal means in the United States Constitution, those references that hinted at it, were vague enough to pass the wink and a nod test for either side of the issue.

Lincoln would have changed that with an amendment legalizing slavery where it existed already. The South decided that it could maintain slavery by secession without having to go through the legal process of changing the Constitution and putting the issue of legalizing slavery to a national vote.

They decided to risk all their lives and fortunes on a war between the states rather then have an open debate on slavery.

21 posted on 07/27/2006 5:41:20 AM PDT by usmcobra (If we take our political stance from a letter behind a name we lose sight of what is right and wrong)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
Unless you consider the fact that that would give the Army a 2 pronged approach into the Confederacy if and when his negotiations succeeded.

The story mentions letters, not a single letter. It's likely that Lincoln wrote similar letters to all the southern governors, and this one is only one of them.

22 posted on 07/27/2006 6:58:37 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: stainlessbanner; Leatherneck_MT
Good point, but were Union military planners on the ball that much in March 1861. I'm not that familiar with Cameron, but I know McDowell wasn't forward thinking, as he showed at 1st Manassas.

At the time hostilities had not broken out so it's doubtful that anyone was planning anything about two fronts.

23 posted on 07/27/2006 7:00:26 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: groanup
Could it be that once a party breaks the terms of a contract, as Washington did, it behooves the other party to remove himself from the transaction. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

What terms did Washington break?

24 posted on 07/27/2006 7:01:44 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: usmcobra
The South wanted a war, and these letters prove that Lincoln would have done anything even legalize slavery to prevent war.

Slavery was already legal. What this amendment would not have done, and which the South was not willing to accept, was ensure that slavery could expand to the territories. Without that protection the South wasn't interested.

25 posted on 07/27/2006 7:04:08 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

It was tolerated, like bawdy houses and such things but it wasn't legal in that it was defined by law.

I've challenged any number of these confederbees to prove that slavery was legally defined by the US government, feel free to prove me wrong by showing a law that defines what a slave is how one becomes a slave, and what crimes a person would have to commit to be enslaved?


26 posted on 07/27/2006 7:08:37 AM PDT by usmcobra (If we take our political stance from a letter behind a name we lose sight of what is right and wrong)
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To: usmcobra
It was tolerated, like bawdy houses and such things but it wasn't legal in that it was defined by law.

OK, let me rephrase it. It was not prevented by the Constitution.

I've challenged any number of these confederbees to prove that slavery was legally defined by the US government, feel free to prove me wrong by showing a law that defines what a slave is how one becomes a slave, and what crimes a person would have to commit to be enslaved?

The legality of slavery was upheld by any number of Supreme Court decisions, including the Taney court in every chance it got. The most famous example, of course was Scott v Sanford.

27 posted on 07/27/2006 7:16:27 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: usmcobra
can't prove??? lol AT you! (did you bother to READ "dishonest abe's, the clay-footed secular saint of DAMNyankeeland" letter????)

btw, are you trying to REPLACE "Mr SPIN" as the "class clown" & BUTT of jokes on FR???

lincoln, the TYRANT, was a stone RACIST & particularly an ANTI-Indian bigot.

he hated & feared ALL "persons of colour", Catholics, Jews,Asians, Latinos & "muddy-coloured people" (mixed-bloods, like ME for instance.)

free dixie,sw

28 posted on 07/27/2006 7:25:09 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: azhenfud
debunks lincoln, the clay-footed, secular saint of DAMNyankeeland, too!

lincoln was about the same sort as "wee willie klintoon". BOTH would do ANYTHING for more POWER & MONEY.

free dixie,sw

29 posted on 07/27/2006 7:27:10 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra
are you REALLY dumb enough to believe THAT nonsense????

lol AT you.

free dixie,sw

30 posted on 07/27/2006 7:28:06 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Non-Sequitur
don't bother talking precedent with "usmcobra". he's likely never heard of scott v. sanford.

free dixie,sw

31 posted on 07/27/2006 7:30:02 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I was only commenting on this one.


32 posted on 07/27/2006 7:39:13 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Ever heard of divide and conquer?

You don't have to be in the middle of hostilities to do that.


33 posted on 07/27/2006 7:40:07 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: azhenfud

"Debunks the claim slavery was the root cause of the war."

You'll never convince the Lincoln Lovers of that.


34 posted on 07/27/2006 7:43:35 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: azhenfud

bingo!


35 posted on 07/27/2006 7:51:22 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Leatherneck_MT
You don't have to be in the middle of hostilities to do that.

That would mean that Lincoln was actively planning for hositilites and held out no hope for a peaceful settlement. I haven't seen any evidence to support that.

36 posted on 07/27/2006 8:03:01 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: stand watie
don't bother talking precedent with "usmcobra". he's likely never heard of scott v. sanford

Now, now.

37 posted on 07/27/2006 8:04:04 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

I would argue that his insistance that the Union be preserved is very much evidence of that.


38 posted on 07/27/2006 8:04:20 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: usmcobra
"It proves that the southern democrats were willing to fight to keep what Lincoln was willing to give them LEGALLY."

< raising eyebrows > Huh?

39 posted on 07/27/2006 8:06:22 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
FACT!

free dixie,sw

40 posted on 07/27/2006 8:48:15 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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