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ZOT: Teacher shouldn't promote cruel race on school time
Vero Beach Press ^ | March 1, 2007 | Margery Glickman

Posted on 03/01/2007 8:43:58 PM PST by Doginator

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81 posted on 03/02/2007 1:29:41 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Doginator
Why should my money go to helping indoctrinate kids that the Iditarod is great when it's horrible?

Consider it a tax on ignorance...YOURS.
82 posted on 03/02/2007 1:44:19 PM PST by beezdotcom
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I went to school with a girl whose family raced in the Iditarod.
They took excellent care of their dogs, they used the ice booties properly, immediate veterinary attention the second a dog showed even a mild hint of an issue.
You, dear troll, know absolutely ZIP about what you are speaking of.


83 posted on 03/02/2007 2:19:59 PM PST by Darksheare (She had the face of a trucker. She used it as a purse.)
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84 posted on 03/02/2007 2:34:59 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (A living insult to islam since 1959)
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it's really not worth waking them up.

85 posted on 03/02/2007 2:39:23 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download. Link on my bio page.)
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You signed up today to post this drivel?


86 posted on 03/02/2007 3:08:40 PM PST by mhking (I make my livin' on the evening news....)
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I'd come over there and claw up your panties, but it ain't worth gettin' off the couch!

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87 posted on 03/02/2007 4:01:25 PM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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88 posted on 03/02/2007 4:17:40 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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I've seen the Iditarod and I know about its horrors.

Oh, do tell, newbie...because there are several Freepers on this thread who make the same claim, none of them report any "horrors," and one of them even brought verifiable injury statistics to back up his case. Go ahead and tell us all about it.

One thing about you that trips my troll meter about you is that you appear to have ignored the evidence in post 17. Not only is Glickman's anti-Iditarod propaganda refuted, but she is revealed to be a terrorist sympathizer. Does that give you pause? Nope, you just charge on ahead.

So, share some facts, real facts, not crap you got from a lying terror-backer, and then maybe we can go somewhere from there.

89 posted on 03/02/2007 5:34:39 PM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Logic" is as meaningless to a liberal as "desert" is to a fish.--Freeper IronJack)
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90 posted on 03/02/2007 5:43:32 PM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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91 posted on 03/02/2007 5:45:08 PM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Logic" is as meaningless to a liberal as "desert" is to a fish.--Freeper IronJack)
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92 posted on 03/02/2007 8:16:41 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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Gullible, obnoxious, and stupid is no way to go through life, dear.


93 posted on 03/03/2007 12:36:30 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("By the way... who is Ben Dayho?" --60Gunner)
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I bet other communities have teachers who are wasting time and money promoting the Iditarod. I applaud Margery Glickman for having the courage to tell people the truth about what's going on in the schools. Read the material on the Sled Dog Action Coalition website: http://www.helpsleddogs.org. It's a real eye-opener.

Now there's an independent site, for sure...Maybe you should find at least one other author?


Receive action alerts or contact SDAC: SledDogAC@aol.com
 

PO Box 562061
Miami, FL 33256 

The SDAC does not raise money and does not accept funds. Its efforts are completely volunteer-based.

Margery Glickman, Director   © 2006 SDAC

94 posted on 03/03/2007 8:32:06 PM PST by NonLinear (Genesis 16:11-12 pretty much sums it up.)
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I'll tolerate a Prog Rock Agenda...

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95 posted on 03/03/2007 8:36:05 PM PST by endthematrix (Both poverty and riches are the offspring of thought.)
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To: Doginator

From the exhaustive summary of dog deaths agonizingly detailed on the website, exactly ONE (1) was due to some type of abuse. I would suggest that the death rate of dogs during the race should be compared with the death rate of dogs at all other times, and see if a statistically relevant conclusion is supported. I'd hazard a guess that the hypothesis "The Iditarod is more deadly to dogs than their general life in Alaska." is NOT supported.

Dog deaths

Death statistics

Reported dog deaths during the Iditarod

"Jack, a 5 year old male from the team of Wisconsin musher Ron Cortte died earlier today at White Mountain Checkpoint. Jack was examined by veterinarians at White Mountain after arriving and appeared normal. Jack expired approximately thirty minutes later."


Dr. Jim Lanier's dog Cupid dies from ulcers:


Noah Burmeister's dog Yellowknife dies of acute pneumonia:
- Veterinarians at checkpoint thought Yellowknife was healthy:

With an OK from the canine medical authorites who work each checkpoint along the course of the 1,100-mile Iditarod Trail Sled Dog Race from Anchorage to Nome, Burmeister made the decision to keep the dog in his team and head up and over the Iditarod high point of Rainy Pass at 3,160 feet. 'After I got done with my rest [at Rainy Pass], I headed up into the (Dalzell) Gorge and he was doing good until all of a sudden he tipped over,' Burmeiser said."

- Kevin Klott, Anchorage Daily News, March 9, 2006

Micahel Salvisberg's dog Tyson drowns (before the racs started)
"Tyson's lead was secured to the skis of a small plane, along with other dogs that were in the process of being transported from the plane to the dog lot. The snap on his lead opened. Race volunteers tried to catch him, but Tyson ran further out on to the Bering Sea Ice."

- Nellie diagnosed with acute pneumonia (before the race started)

"Nellie was dropped in Elim on Tuesday, March 15 at a little after 8 a.m. and was transported to Nome early Wednesday afternoon for further treatment related to acute pneumonia. She was transported yesterday evening from Nome to Anchorage for follow up care. Nellie died unexpectedly at approximately 5 a.m. this morning."


- Nellie also had a double intussusception:
"... Obstruction of the lower small intestine (eg, distal jejunum and ileum) is infrequently associated with vomiting. Lethargy, anorexia, weight loss, and ultimate starvation in untreated dogs lead to death within >3 wk.
(So Nellie was going to be dead within 3 weeks whether she ran the race, or stayed at home and watched TV)


Jason Barron's dog Oakley dies and no cause of death given:
(Ooooh! Conspiracy!!)

Paul Gebhardt's dog Rita bleeds internally from ulcers and dies:

"Half an hour after a 24-hour rest in the checkpoint of Anvik, a dog in the team of musher Paul Gebhardt of Kasilof died on Saturday, the first to perish in this year's Iditarod Trail Sled Dog Race.
"Preliminary findings indicate the cause of death to be the result of anemia, secondary to the presence of gastric ulcers."




Jonrowe's dog Mark dies from surgery to repair his ulcer:



Dan, a 3 year old dog dies; ulcers are found in his stomach:


Backen's dog dies from blood loss associated with ulcers:

Preliminary findings of a necropsy indicate the 7-year-old male [Takk] died of blood loss associated with gastric ulcers, according to race officials.

Two dead dogs have ulcers, leading to aspiration pneumonia in one:

"The two other dead dogs were suffering from intestinal ulcers, Drs. Randall Basaraba and Derek Mosier reported."

"Unknown to Pattaroni, or any of the veterinarians at the checkpoints along the trail, the dog had developed a bleeding ulcer. ..."

Goro, a 5 year old male dog, dies from a spinal injury:

Jim Oehlschlaeger's dog Goro died in the 2002 Iditarod. He was a 5 year old male.

"The preliminary report released Monday night said the dog suffered a spinal injury in the neck area as the result of a tangle in the gangline.

The accident occurred after Oehlschlaeger missed a turn on the trail and was turning the team around. Goro got ahead of the pair of dogs in front of him, became tangled and when the team was being straightened out, he sustained the fatal injury."


Dog chokes to death on vomit:

"Lance Mackey lost a dog [named Wolf] that was found to have regurgitated food and choked on it."

Sick dog gets no vet care after leaving checkpoint and dies:

"Little from Kasilof, a reporter for the Daily News, left the dog [Carhartt] in the care of Iditarod handlers Tuesday because it looked tired and wasn't eating well."

"Iditarod executive director Stan Hooley sid the dog had been flown to Anchorage on Wednesday by volunteers of the Iditarod Air Force. It was kept overnight and into the day at Eagle River's Hiland Mountain Correctional Center, where inmates tend dropped dogs."

"The dog was signed our of Hiland Mountain late Thursday by Melissa DeVaughn, an experienced musher and co-worker of Little's."

"She found it dead in her yard Friday morning."



Snowmachiner kills dogs



Snowmachine kills dogs:



Musher kicks dog to death:



Other causes of death:

Causes of death have also included strangulation in towlines, internal hemorrhaging after being gouged by a sled, liver injury, heart failure, and pneumonia. ....



Jason Barron's dog dies in Dalzell Gorge:

The dog died after Barron slipped on the ice of Dalzell Creek and was dragged about 100 yards by his team. By the time Barron regained his feet his 14 dogs were tangled in their traces and Bones was down."



Dog dies 150 miles from the starting line:


Six dogs die in 1993 Iditarod:

"Officials said one of musher Bev Masek's dogs died while being take to shelter Friday. Snowmachiners found Masek and John Schandelmeier pinned in their sleds Thursday afternoon and took them to shelter, but both mushers' dog teams were left alone for two hours until Schandelmeier and a snowmachiner returned to retrieve them.

Two other dogs died Wednesday. One of musher Frank Teasley's dogs died while approaching the White Mountain checkpoint, 77 miles from the finish while one of Diana Dronenburg's dogs died at White Mountain."

Iditarod dog deaths do not surprise vets:

"Veterinarians contend it is normal to expect some deaths among hundred of dogs in an event as long as the Iditarod."


Moose kills and injures Susan Butcher's dogs:

"'I didn't see the moose until it was in the team,'" Butcher later said. "'I don't think
the dogs even saw it. It came stomping through until it was about halfway into the team. It killed one dog quickly, plus it got the dogs all tangled and twisted, so I couldn't get the team past it."

"For 20 nightmarish minutes it stayed among the dogs, lashing out with deadly hooves that tore flesh, ruptured organs, and cracked bones." "The toll on Butcher's team was heavy. Two dogs died and six others were seriously hurt, suffering either from leg damage or internal injuries."



Musher thinks not entering her dog who died in the Iditarod would have been cruel:

"You know, it would have been cruel and inhumane if I had not taken him on this race."

- Linda Joy discussing her dog Trim after his death in the Iditarod
- Doug O'Harra, Anchorage Daily News, March 20, 1998


Susan Butcher: Four of her dogs died in Iditarod

Dog dies of internal hemorrhaging:

"On the second day, as Butcher approached a checkpoint, one of her dogs dropped dead, one of only two to die during the race. An autopsy showed it died of internal hemorrhaging caused by liver lesions."


Dog dies of "sudden death syndrome":


"...Susan Butcher lost her best dog to sudden heart failure."

Two dogs die from moose attack:

"The only time she didn't finish at all was in 1985, when her dogs were attacked by a moose." "The moose 'ran into the team, kicking and stomping, and with probably eight seconds, she had killed two dogs and injured 13 others,' Butcher said."


96 posted on 03/03/2007 9:09:55 PM PST by NonLinear (Genesis 16:11-12 pretty much sums it up.)
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To: Doginator
Here's the truth. In the Iditarod, dogs race 1,150 miles, the approximate distance between Vero Beach and Madison, Wis., over a grueling terrain in eight to 16 days. What happens to the dogs during the Iditarod includes death, paralysis, penile frostbite, bleeding ulcers, bloody diarrhea, lung damage, ruptured discs, viral diseases, pneumonia, torn muscles and tendons and sprains. There is no accounting of how many dogs die in training or after each Iditarod.

lady I say you are a lier and I call BS

97 posted on 03/15/2007 6:55:00 PM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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